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fordtrucks80up-digest Saturday, August 23 1997 Volume 01 : Number 076



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In this issue:

Bronco II info [cvanhooser juno.com (Charles R Van Hooser)]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #8 ["Mike Jones"]
Re: Superchips [Marcelo Peralta ]
Re: Superchips [Marcelo Peralta ]
ranger help [Dan Simoes ]
Re: Intro And Of Course, An F-250 Question [Rick Wheeler
Re: Intro And Of Course, An F-250 Question [John Yee ]
Re: Intro And Of Course, An F-250 Question [Joe Maleski
Re: Intro And Of Course, An F-250 Question ["J. Martin"
Re: AOD not working! ["J. Martin" ]
Re: Bronco II info ["J. Martin" ]

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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 09:35:21 -0600
From: cvanhooser juno.com (Charles R Van Hooser)
Subject: Bronco II info

I have a 89 Bronco II Eddie Bauer edition with a 2.9 V-6 and 5 speed
transmission that is experiencing a strange problem. The problem is
intermittent, it usually manifests itself when going over railroad tracks
or a pothole, etc. What happens is I feel the tracks, hole etc and the
engine justs dies, depending on the speed I'm going the engine catches
and continues on as if nothing happened. Its like the electrical goes out
because when it happens all electrical devices stop also, the one that I
notice the most is the radio. Has anyone heard of this before and can you
give me some advice of where to look to correct this problem.

I am also interested in putting headers on this truck, does anyone have
any recomendations on brand and a place to purchase them.

And I am looking for a good source for replacement Ford parts, mostly
trim parts and stuff like that.

Any help on the above items ill be greatly appreciated.

Chuck
cvanhooser juno.com
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 09:56:52 -0400
From: "Mike Jones"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #8

dean etgn14.webo.dg.com writes
>...Finally, if anyone is interested, Rieder racing makes a Trac Lock for
the Dana 50
>front on the F-250. Their number is 313-946-1330 and it costs $350.00. I
will
>probably be putting this in my F250 HD once my vehicle comes in.
Is the Trac Lok a manual device, engaged by the driver or is it a
limited-slip like what is found from the factory? If it is the later, I'd
think twice about installing one unless you spend most of your time in
loose material/dirt roads. A limited-slip in the front diff. can produce
some weird steering including huge amounts of understeer.

Mike J.


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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:57:00 -0300
From: Marcelo Peralta
Subject: Re: Superchips

I installed the hypertech power tunning module (superchip. It works fine, I think I have a 8-10% power increase. I also got a K&N air filter, and now looking for cat back exhuast system..
All I can say about my powerchip is that now I got better run on 3000-4500rpm and the mileage still the same..(I'm using 91 octane gas and there's no detonation)

Marcelo Peralta
'96 Ranger 4.0L



At 14:46 21/08/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Saw the post on Superchips and would like more info. What does this do
>for my truck? Do they really work? Void the factory warranty? Anyone
>used one?
>
>Mark Roberts
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:59:00 -0300
From: Marcelo Peralta
Subject: Re: Superchips

Hey, I forgot to tell that the Hypertech power module doesn't remove the speed limiter/governor at 112mph.

BTW, Anyone know how to disable it ??


At 13:48 21/08/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hey guys, I just noticed that Superchips is looking for someone with a Ford
>p/u with the Powerstroke diesel engine. It says that anyone who will drive
>over (orlando, fl) will get a rental car while they test a new chip for
>that engine & you get a free chip out of it!
>
>go to http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superchips.com/freechip.htm
>
>looks like a sweet deal...their chips aren't just interceptor types, they
>actually use the diagnostic port thing in the EEC-IV & override the
>memory...for FORD's, that is really the only way to go.
>
>Too bad they don't make a chip yet for my "catch-code".
>
>steve
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:51:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan Simoes
Subject: ranger help

XLT, 2.3l auto. My truck, bought from a fleet sale. 92000 hard miles.

My father in law (at the Ford dealer) had a lot of work done on this
recently (about $1200 total!) The a/c was not working, so they
replaced the orifice tube (whatever that is) and there was a lot of
crap in there. It blows cold, but not cold enough. He now says I
should replace the compressor. Anything else it might be? If
it is the compressor, anyone have a used one?

I'm slowly starting to like this truck, despite the auto tranny.
But whoever said Audi parts are expensive never priced Ford stuff.
$130 for a crossmember, $150 for a fuel sender, $250 for leaf
springs, etc etc. (all prices approx). Any good used yards for
Ford stuff that do mail order or that might be local to me?

Thanks!

| Dan |
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 16:14:44 -0500
From: Rick Wheeler
Subject: Re: Intro And Of Course, An F-250 Question

....I threw away the puny OEM fuel tanks and installed two Aero 45
gallon tanks in their place and ....

Aero 45 gallon tanks? Where can I get these tanks? How much are they?
Will they fit on a 97 F-150?

Rick Wheeler
1997 F-150, 4.6, LWB, Super Cab.

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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:42:45 -0700
From: John Yee
Subject: Re: Intro And Of Course, An F-250 Question

At 04:14 PM 8/22/97 -0500, you wrote:
>....I threw away the puny OEM fuel tanks and installed two Aero 45
>gallon tanks in their place and ....
>
>Aero 45 gallon tanks? Where can I get these tanks? How much are they?
>Will they fit on a 97 F-150?
>
>Rick Wheeler
>1997 F-150, 4.6, LWB, Super Cab.

A web search for "aero tanks" came up with ...

If this is not accurate, I've seen adds in the back of 4 wheeler and other
such magazines.

When I called Aero back in april, the light duty 97 f250's only had a
30 gallon aux tank available for $850 installed. Aero said they should have
a "do-it-yourself" version within 3-4 months, which would put it about now.

- -john

** Fuel Cells, Tanks ---------------------------------------------------

Aero Tanks oversize gas tanks 02/92
1031 South Melrose Avenue
Unit B
Placentia CA 92670
800-783-4826

ATL Competition Equipment fuel cells 06/93
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Ramsey NJ 07446
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201-825-1400

Aircraft Rubber Mfg. Inc Fuel Safe fuel cells 03/92
5271 Business Drive
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Fillip Automotive fuel cells 01/85
2419 Sherwood Way
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Fuel Bladders, Inc fuel cells, pieces 12/85
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Fuel Safe Racing Cells 12/93
Aircraft Rubber Manufacturing, Inc
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JAZ Products plastic fuel tanks 10/92
PO Box 3504
Thousand Oaks CA 91359
805-525-8800

Tanks Inc. plastic tanks, rods 10/93
P.O. Box 400
Clearwater MN 55320
612-558-6882




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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 16:36:54 -0700
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: Re: Intro And Of Course, An F-250 Question

>....I threw away the puny OEM fuel tanks and installed two Aero 45
>gallon tanks in their place and ....

>Aero 45 gallon tanks? Where can I get these tanks? How much are they?
>Will they fit on a 97 F-150?

My fuel tanks are from Aero, which is in Corona, CA. I think that the
place in Placentia is Arrow Tanks. I could be wrong, though. I currently
don't have the phone number handy, but they advertise in Fourwheeler
magazine every month so they're easy to find.

There is another company in Chico, CA called Transfer Flow that makes tanks
similar to Aero. Their prices are about $200 per tank *more* than Aero's.
I've heard of a place in Texas and another in Florida that do the same
thing but I don't have any pricing info on them.

I've never crawled under a '97 F-150 (I'm assuming that you are talking
about the new body style, and not what I call the "Classic F-Series" which
is the '80 - '96 style.) I have no doubt that if they don't offer a tank
for it they will soon. But would I buy one from Aero? Maybe not. Let me
explain...

I had ordered my fuel tanks in 1994 shortly after purchasing the truck. I
had thought that the front tank was an off-the-shelf unit, but I later
found out that it was the first one they had ever made. When I got under
the truck I found out that there was no way it was going to fit, the new
tank was simply too long. There was no way I was going to be able to
modify it in my driveway so I had to drive down to L.A. and have Aero lop
off six inches from the tank, reweld everything and install it for me.
This they did, and I was happy up to the point where I had to fill the
tank. The original venting was not adequate for the design of the tank and
I had to use slow fill on the pumps just to get the gas in without it
clicking off every three seconds. Back to Aero for them to modify the
venting. Then things worked OK, at least for the time being. I could get
the first 20 gallons in at high speed and then I'd have to slow down the
pump on the rest. Then later that summer, on a trip to Lake Powell I had a
fuel line separate from the front tank pouring fuel all over the place and
stranding me out on a dirt road in the middle of nowhere. I made an
emergency fix that got me going as far as the local Ford dealer in Page.
They looked at it and told me that the job Aero had done on the fuel lines
was completely wrong. Back to Aero I went. Pissed.

In Aero's defense, I will say that every time I went back the guy was
apologetic and they did all the work for free. But I was having to take
800 mile round trips to L.A. every month for this! I eventually threw in
the towel and designed my own fuel routing and fuel venting system for the
tank and it has worked perfect ever since. Until the OEM Ford fuel pump
went bad. The rear 45 gallon tank has worked flawless, though, I'm very
happy with that.

If I ever do this again I will reconsider the wisdom of carrying 90 gallons
of fuel. Why? 1.) It takes over twenty minutes just to fill up from empty
at the local Chevron station. 2.) 90 gallons of gas plus the 150 pounds
the empty tanks weigh adds up to some serious weight. 3.) All that gas
along the bottom of a 7 1/2 foot long fuel tank on a hot day boils easily.
Can you say vapor lock? 4.) Having to relocate the spare on a swing-away
on the bumper was fine for a while, but when the Camper is on the spare has
to go on the roof. Big pain.

I sure hope this helps,

Joe

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Joe Maleski
Santa Clara, CA
1994 F-250HD SuperCab, 460/5-spd, The Silver Camel

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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 20:53:46 -0700
From: "J. Martin"
Subject: Re: Intro And Of Course, An F-250 Question

> of fuel. Why? 1.) It takes over twenty minutes just to fill up from
> empty
> at the local Chevron station. 2.) 90 gallons of gas plus the 150
> pounds
> the empty tanks weigh adds up to some serious weight. 3.) All that
> gas

Let's see...gas is about 6-6.5lbs per gallon...so, you are looking at
550-600lbs of gas.
Wow. How does it feel when it sloshes around? Or does it have
baffles...Ahhh, never mind! ;)


Josh --> '88 Ranger (NO WAY I'd be able to sling that 90gal tank under
this baby...)


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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 21:19:22 -0700
From: "J. Martin"
Subject: Re: AOD not working!

Hi Ian,

That's a hard one...besides the fact that I'm
tranny-troubleshooting-dumb! ;)
Could it be a problem w/the switch in the gear shifter? Maybe a
connector somewhere in line with your powertrain is loose/bad? It really
sounds like a loose connector, or broken switch, or something of that
nature (due to the random nature of operation, and seemingly
moisture-induced operation). Plug/Unplug as many tranny-related
connectors as you can get to...Let us know whatcha find...

Josh --> '88 Ranger



Ian Holter wrote:

> I have a "92 F150 4x4 with 5.0 liter and AOD. Most of the time the AOD
>
> is off ( without manually turning it off). It only works in the
> morning
> when there is dew on the ground and occasionally whenever. I can't
> turn
> it off and on with the manual switch on the gear shift. When I drive
> (with AOD off) the truck lurches going into passing gear. Could this
> be
> a sensor or sending unit problem? Any info would be appreciated. Thanx
>
> in advance! Ian



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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 21:26:48 -0700
From: "J. Martin"
Subject: Re: Bronco II info

Hey Charles...

I replied to this one once, but I guess the list server went beserk
before it got there...

It really sounds like you have either a loose electrical connection
(loose ground, ground strap, etc.) or maybe you ignition cylinder is
going. I don't know if your ignition cylinder is one of the ones that
was part of the big recall (???). If your radio, etc. are going out too,
it's something major that's getting bumped around. I'd check the
integrity of the battery-to-frame and the battery-to-motor
grounding-straps first. Then check your misc ground straps that are
found in the engine bay. One of the guys on another list (Fordnatics)
just listed his experience w/his '88 Mustang (w/a '90yr mdl ignition
cylinder, too) and how it was slowly cooking. His car would cut-out on
him...first it was his A/C that seemed to be crapping out on him. He
finally found it...
Hopefully, yours isn't as serious... ;)

Good luck,
Josh --> '88 Ranger



Charles R Van Hooser wrote:

> I have a 89 Bronco II Eddie Bauer edition with a 2.9 V-6 and 5 speed
> transmission that is experiencing a strange problem. The problem is
> intermittent, it usually manifests itself when going over railroad
> tracks
> or a pothole, etc. What happens is I feel the tracks, hole etc and the
>
> engine justs dies, depending on the speed I'm going the engine catches
>
> and continues on as if nothing happened. Its like the electrical goes
> out
> because when it happens all electrical devices stop also, the one that
> I
> notice the most is the radio. Has anyone heard of this before and can
> you
> give me some advice of where to look to correct this problem.....


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