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fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, December 16 1997 Volume 01 : Number 264



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In this issue:

98 Explorer Sport... ["Patrick Ward" ]
re: ford and cummins [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #263 ["Brian J. Paisley" ]
F150 Keys and another brain twister [Derek Whiteside
best book for 92 F150?? [Derek Whiteside ]
Re: best book for 92 F150?? ["Tim Wegner" ]
Ford & Cummins [Blest25913 ]
Re: ford and cummins ["Dave Resch"]
[none] [Craig Atkisson ]
Water on the Floor [John Pensko ]
Ford and Cummins true relationship [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY]
Tires [johnmck juno.com (John R. McKee)]
Re: Water on the Floor [charles rogers ]
Re: Tires [Randy ]
Re: ford and cummins ["C. E. White" ]
Re: ford and cummins [DUALIE ]

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Date: 15 Dec 1997 07:04:40 -0700
From: "Patrick Ward"
Subject: 98 Explorer Sport...

Well it looks like i'm headed to the Explorer page. I traded in my 93
Ranger 4X4 XLT s-cab 4.OL. I got a 98 Explorer Sport (two door).
This baby has everthing, SOHC 4.0L (205 H.P), 5-speed auto trans,
4.10 gears and 16" rims. This thing really gets down the road. It's
been great hanging out with you guy's.

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:33:58, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: ford and cummins

Cummins puts engines into Ford Medium and Heavy Trucks....especially
the medium. The F800 is the Ford model where they are used. They
used to be called "Ford Diesel" and were always made by Cummins. Now
they are just called Cummins. I think they switched for Ford
Warranty reasons. You can get the same diesel engine in a Dodge
Pickup as you can in a Ford F800. I think Dodge is just using the
Cummins engine and has been for awhile. Ford did NOT aquire Cummins.
Cummins just makes engines for Ford Medium and Heavy Trucks.

Thanks,

Josh
KNBD87D prodigy.com

ps if you have more questions just write back

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:56:20 -0500
From: "Brian J. Paisley"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #263

any baby bronco people out there?
I've got an 84 Bronco II 4*4, just painted, black, 31 inch tires on chrome
wheels, 3 in lift, new ignition (Mallory dual point distributor and high
performance mallory coil) new holley 4bbl carb on an offy intake manifold.
I bought this bronco a couple of years ago and have done everything myself
(with the help of my dad, gotta love em). I just found out yesterday that
i have a limited slip rear end. You can really make those 2.8's go with
the right stuff. Are those splitfire sparkplugs that i've been hearing so
much about any good? Any other people build up their bronco II? any other
suggestions about parts would be greatly appreciated. thanks

Brian

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:03:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Derek Whiteside
Subject: F150 Keys and another brain twister

Hey:

My 92 F150 XLT Supercab (that I bought two weeks ago) came with 5 Ford
keys: three square and two round. What are the Round keys for? Glove
Box?

Second Question: My truck has the 3.0 L straight six and a fivespeed.
On the speedometer, there are three "sets" of dots: One near 0 mph,
one around 30, and one around 60. Anyone know what these are for?

Thanks,

Derek Whiteside
95 F150 XLT Supercab
Corvallis, OR






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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:28:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Derek Whiteside
Subject: best book for 92 F150??

Hey there:

What's the best book for me to get regarding my 92 F150? There's
Chilton, Haynes, possibly something Ford Factory, and I've even seen
"the Ford F-Series Owner's Bible". I need a general reference, but I'd
like it to be as detailed (specific to me) as possible. BTW, my truck
has the 300 I6 and a 5 speed tranny.

Thanks,

Derek Whiteside




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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:28:56 -0800
From: "Tim Wegner"
Subject: Re: best book for 92 F150??

For a shop manual try Helm Publications at 1-800-782-4356. As far as
I know they have the real thing.

Tim Wegner


- -----Original Message-----
From: Derek Whiteside
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 11:25 AM
Subject: best book for 92 F150??


>
>Hey there:
>
>What's the best book for me to get regarding my 92 F150? There's
>Chilton, Haynes, possibly something Ford Factory, and I've even seen
>"the Ford F-Series Owner's Bible". I need a general reference, but I'd
>like it to be as detailed (specific to me) as possible. BTW, my truck
>has the 300 I6 and a 5 speed tranny.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Derek Whiteside
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 14:51:25 EST
From: Blest25913
Subject: Ford & Cummins

In a message dated 12/15/97 9:26:23 AM, you wrote:


Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:03:51 -0600
From: "John M. Randall"






>>

All that I can say for sure is that Ford Motor Company does not own Cummins,
the Indiana diesel engine company. Cummins owns Nelson Industries and another
company whose name escapes me at this time.
Ron Trampe

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:22:37 -0700
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: ford and cummins

>From: "John M. Randall"
>Subject: ford and cummins
>
>Can someone clear this up for me? What is the connection
>between Frd and Cummins? Did Ford buy Cummins or only
>the engine division? I have heard theat Ford aquired Cummins
>and that Dodge could use Cummins engines for a set period of
>time any thing to this???
Yo John:

Neither Ford nor Cummins mention this in any recent press releases on their
web pages.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford.com/corporate-info/news/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cummins.com/news/corpnews.html

Sounds like a weird rumor. Where did you get your information?

Back in May, Ford announced that they were selling their heavy truck
business to Daimler-Benz (parent company of Freightliner), so it seems odd
that they would want to buy into a truck engine maker.

Dave R.

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:56:07 -0800
From: Craig Atkisson
Subject: [none]

I was drvining to my afternoon class when the emission light came on in my
87 ranger....I have a 2.9 w/109,000 miles on it. I have no idea what it
means, I did read in the owners manual that it needs emissons service...but
what that intails I haven't a clue. If anybody can help I would most
apperciat it:)


Thanks,
Craig
marvin1 sttl.uswest.net

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:29:36 -0800
From: John Pensko
Subject: Water on the Floor

When I got my Ford Ranger in 93, I went and got some clear plastic for
the flooring. Installed from door to door and up, covering all my
carpeting in the front. Recently I noticed water under the passenger
side. I took out the plastic and started looking for a leak. It's been
raining pretty good up here in Sacramento. I couldn't find anything
comming down. HERE is the question. If I have a crack or small hole in
the floor boards can water be sucked in? Any help would be appreciated.

JP

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 18:33:36, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Ford and Cummins true relationship

Hey y'all:

I tried to send this message before, but it wouldn't work. I will
try again...

I posted info a few hours ago about the Ford and Cummins relationship.
The info I post was WRONG! Sorry for the mistake. I assumed the
Ford did not own Cummins because Cummins puts engines in many makes
of trucks and Ford also has other engine manufacturers (i.e. Cat and
Detriot Diesel). I work at a Ford Heavy Truck dealership and asked
the President of the company. He told me that Ford does own about
40% of Cummins. A very interesting fact I thought. He also told me
that Dodge and Cummins have their own agreement that Ford had nothing
to do with. I hope this clears things up. Sorry for the mistake, I
hope you understand my previous thinking.

Josh

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:19:02 EST
From: johnmck juno.com (John R. McKee)
Subject: Tires

Would like to hear the pros and cons of "P" tires, as in P235/70R16SL and
"LT" tires, as in LT235/70R16SL tires. I've tries several tire web sites
and they don't explain the terms at all. My driving is 99% paved
road/highway so I'm looking for good ride and handling qualities.

Thanx. John

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 18:53:35 -0800 (PST)
From: charles rogers
Subject: Re: Water on the Floor

- ---John Pensko wrote:
>
> When I got my Ford Ranger in 93, I went and got some clear plastic for
> the flooring. Installed from door to door and up, covering all my
> carpeting in the front. Recently I noticed water under the passenger
> side. I took out the plastic and started looking for a leak. It's
been
> raining pretty good up here in Sacramento. I couldn't find anything
> comming down. HERE is the question. If I have a crack or small
hole in
> the floor boards can water be sucked in? Any help would be
appreciated.
>
> JP
>
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> It's just a thought, but you might not have a leak at all. It could
be condensation collecting under the plastic...

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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 00:53:38 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re: Tires

John R. McKee wrote:
>
> Would like to hear the pros and cons of "P" tires, as in P235/70R16SL and
> "LT" tires, as in LT235/70R16SL tires. I've tries several tire web sites
> and they don't explain the terms at all. My driving is 99% paved
> road/highway so I'm looking for good ride and handling qualities.
>
> Thanx. John


John,
the letters do have designations. 'P' stands for Passenger car,
while LT stands for Light Truck (light when compared to big trucks, like
semis or the big dumps you see plowing the street for instance, so even
though my F-250 is Heavy Duty, that's only for it's class, it is still a
light truck). Now, I have seen P designation tires on trucks, but not
any that are used for what the intended purpose of a truck is. They may
be ok for your kind of driving, but I'd check w/the local tire store
first. What is the designation on your truck tires now?
Now here's what the numbers mean (like you cared). You may have
seen variations in the numbering, for instance LT265/75R16 or
33x12.50x15. These are two different forms of measuring a tire, the
first is the newer metric measurements (and we thought we'd kicked that
stinkin' metric system right on back over the ocean). The second
example is alphanumeric, and it's the old stlye of measurement
(excluding the old alphabet type like H60, but I won't even cover that,
so forget I said it). Now, I'll take the second example and break it
down first, since it is the easiest (and btw, ALL bias-ply tires are
measured using this). The numbers are in inches and the first is the
NOMINAL diameter of the tire; the second is the NOMINAL width and the
third is the size rim it will fit. I say nominal here, because
depending on what width rim you mount the tire on will, to some extend,
will affect its ACTUAL dimensions, and besides a tire mfg. isn't going
to put 32.55x whatever on the tire either if that's the actual
measurement, they'd just round up. Now the second, more complicated way
is in metric form. The first number is the tire cross-section WIDTH in
millimeters. The second number is a PERCENTAGE of the first number and
is the HEIGHT of the sidewalls. So in this example the tire would be
265mm wide and 199mm tall (265mm x 0.75)[from the edge of the rim to the
tread, not the whole diameter, but the wall height]. You can see here
why 'wheelers don't much care for the metric type measurement because it
really gives no indication of tire diameter (this tire diameter is appx.
31.6 inches, btw). If you call your local tire shop, they should have a
conversion chart, and yes, the rim diameter does make a difference when
calculating the dia). I think 28" is the smallest tire dia. coded in
a/n form, but the metric can go very high, like 345/35R17 on Lambos and
stuff. I have also seen up to 308/85R16 (about 37"?) for truck tires,
but they may come bigger (in metric nos., I mean). Btw, sometimes the
dia. & width nos. are reversed like 15/42-15, but I don't know why,
maybe the mfgs. preference?
I'm not sure what the SL in your example stands for, it could be a
mfgs. particular tire style. The 'R' in R16 means Radial (B would
indicate Bias-belted; P bias-ply, but you'll only find these in the big
LT tires).
I only hope this answers your question. Now you see why nobody
else want to take the time to explain it, they may sound long-winded
8-)

Take care,
Randy

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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 00:42:55 -0500
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: Re: ford and cummins

MR JOSH J TENNEY wrote:
>
> Cummins puts engines into Ford Medium and Heavy Trucks....especially
> the medium. The F800 is the Ford model where they are used. They
> used to be called "Ford Diesel" and were always made by Cummins. Now
> they are just called Cummins. I think they switched for Ford
> Warranty reasons. You can get the same diesel engine in a Dodge
> Pickup as you can in a Ford F800. I think Dodge is just using the
> Cummins engine and has been for awhile. Ford did NOT aquire Cummins.
> Cummins just makes engines for Ford Medium and Heavy Trucks.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh
> KNBD87D prodigy.com
>
> ps if you have more questions just write back

Well for a while Ford was actually selling a Ford Built 6 Cyclinder in
Medium Trucks. This 6 was derived from a very good tractor engine. When
Ford sold the Tractor Division, they needed a new engine for the medium
trucks. That is when the Cummins Engines started being used. I believe
it is actually a different displacemnet from the engine used in Dodge
Pick-ups.
....


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