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fordtrucks80up-digest Saturday, December 6 1997 Volume 01 : Number 253



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In this issue:

Fwd: Air Tube [JOUZA1 ]
1999 trucks to appear in Motor Trend -Truck Trends [John Yee
Re: 1999 trucks to appear in Motor Trend -Truck Trends [John Yee
Re: Weird starting problem. [BiggRanger ]
Re: Air Tube [YIASCA ]
CD changer ["R.L.H.O." ]
Re: CD changer ["Grady Byram" ]
Re: [Randy ]
Re: Tire Chains ["Ryan Penner" ]
Re: Block heater ?s [ILuvTruks ]
Re: Chip [Ken Payne ]
Re: Chip [YEAGS15962 ]
Automotive Propane Availability [Ted Ladd ]
Re: Automotive Propane Availability [Shadorite ]

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:33:47 EST
From: JOUZA1
Subject: Fwd: Air Tube

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Subject: Air Tube
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 21:41:20 EST
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Now I know that the more air and the faster and smoother it gets to your
engine the faster you will go. But on my 93 rager with 4.0 V6 the air tube is
all rippled. This probaly causes the air to flow buppy robbing me of precious
hp. I have seen special air tubes for chevy V8's by Da Kind Fabrications. Is
there anything like this for ford V6 if not is there a simple inexpensive way
of customizing the intake tube so the air will run smooth?

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 09:07:02 -0800
From: John Yee
Subject: 1999 trucks to appear in Motor Trend -Truck Trends

Heads up.

The January issue of MotorTrend says that their new magazine
"Truck Trends" that debuts towards the end of December, will have
an article on the 1999 F350 Crew Cab Dually. There's a sample cover of
the Truck Trends magazine that shows a view of the 1999 truck in this
latest issue of Motor Trend.

I would guess that the 4-wheel drive and other truck magazines should
also have articles as well.

For those that need a picture fix....

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pickup truck. com/otf/otf9707.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.meadowlandford.com/prod02.htm
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.truckworld.com/Truck-Tests/99-F-Series/f-series.html

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wieckphoto.com/Latest/ (look for super duty)
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.boyerford.com/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.f150 online. com/articles/1999f250.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.warnertruckland.com/preveiw.htm


- -john

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 09:26:34 -0800
From: John Yee
Subject: Re: 1999 trucks to appear in Motor Trend -Truck Trends

At 09:07 AM 12/5/97 -0800, you wrote:

I just took a closer look. If you only can look once, check out
the pictures at

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.meadowlandford.com/prod02.htm

They are very good.

- -john

>Heads up.
>
>The January issue of MotorTrend says that their new magazine
>"Truck Trends" that debuts towards the end of December, will have
>an article on the 1999 F350 Crew Cab Dually. There's a sample cover of
>the Truck Trends magazine that shows a view of the 1999 truck in this
>latest issue of Motor Trend.
>
>I would guess that the 4-wheel drive and other truck magazines should
>also have articles as well.
>
>For those that need a picture fix....
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pickup truck. com/otf/otf9707.html
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.meadowlandford.com/prod02.htm
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.truckworld.com/Truck-Tests/99-F-Series/f-series.html
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wieckphoto.com/Latest/ (look for super duty)
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.boyerford.com/
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.f150 online. com/articles/1999f250.html
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.warnertruckland.com/preveiw.htm
>
>
>-john
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:45:06 EST
From: BiggRanger
Subject: Re: Weird starting problem.

I have had problems with my ignition cause the same type of problems with my
starter. While cranking the engine, before the piston reaches TDC the ignition
will ignite the fuel in that cylinder and cause the starter to stall. This
usually happens in the morning on my truck. I've had is bad enough to actually
spin the engine backwards too ( this means death to any 2.3L by means of a
slipped cam belt ). All I did to correct the problem was re time the motor (
it was real bad to start with ).

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 15:44:10 EST
From: YIASCA
Subject: Re: Air Tube

yeah try calling---DownsFord

www.downsford.com ----i think ask them....
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 07:17:14 -0200
From: "R.L.H.O."
Subject: CD changer

I'd like to buy a Ford CD changer for my 97 Ranger XLT Std. Cab.
Is it the original Ford CD changer the only one compatible with the
Stereo/Cassete player that comes with the
car ? I wouldn't want to lose its CD functions !

Any help? Any idea about prices or/and where to find it?

Thanks all.

Rodrigo Heitzmann

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 15:43:57 -0600
From: "Grady Byram"
Subject: Re: CD changer

No answers, further question on this topic. I have a 95 F150 ext. cab.
Has anybody found a location within the this cab style where a changer can
be installed without taking up too much space and still allowing the rear
bench to fold down.

I wish it could be placed under the middle of the front seat (I've got the
40/20/40 seats).

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> From: R.L.H.O.
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: CD changer
> Date: Saturday, December 06, 1997 3:17 AM
>
> I'd like to buy a Ford CD changer for my 97 Ranger XLT Std. Cab.
> Is it the original Ford CD changer the only one compatible with the
> Stereo/Cassete player that comes with the
> car ? I wouldn't want to lose its CD functions !
>
> Any help? Any idea about prices or/and where to find it?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> Rodrigo Heitzmann
>
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 18:09:14 -0800
From: Randy
Subject: Re:

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>
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 06:44:30 -0500
> From: cdkelly juno.com (Christopher D Kelly)
> Subject: Re: lowering shackles Q's
>
> Where did you get your lowering shackles I would like to get some for my
> 94 Splash?
> Changing them should not be hard. Hope not!
> On Wed, 03 Dec 1997 22:46:55 -0500 Luke Wells writes:
> >How hard is it to put on 2" lowering shackles on a 96 for Ranger
> >Splash
> >thanks
> >

Chris, it shouldn't be hard to install the shackles at all. It's nice
that your truck is so new, you won't have problems w/rusted bolts.
Although I personally don't understand why someone would want to 'lower'
their truck. I'm looking to reverse (actually, they're 'reversed' from
the factory, I want to flip them back to 'normal') my shackles to
increase clearance. But, keep in mind that whatever the measurement
difference is from the old shackle to the new, you will only gain (loss
in your case) 1/2 of that distance. Because when you increase (or
decrease) one end of the leaf spring, the axle is in the center and
moves only half of that distance. Hope that helps.

- -Randy

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 22:10:05 EST
> From: Gamer2000
> Subject: Block heater ?s
>
> Does anyone know the way your supposed to install a tank circulation ( the
> kind thats a little tank that mounts externally from the engine and connects
> to the engine drain plug for imput and then connects to one of the heatercore
> hoses) type block heater? My specific question is what heater hose should the
> output of the heater goto; the water pump of the connection by the top of the
> engine?
> The directions were unclear and Im confused.
> Its on a 87 ford Ranger with a 2.9L v-6
> Thankyou.
> Mike
> Gamer2000 aol.com
>
Mike, I've never installed that type of block heater before, but I have
installed coolant flushing systems and they must be installed in the
heater 'inlet' hose, (if I remember right, anyway). It's the one going
from the water pump to the firewall (so that you can 'backflush' thru
the heater, the outlet hose goes to the thermostat). So I would say you
would want to use the one going from the firewall to the top of the
engine. I would get comfirmation of that, though. Call the store that
sold you the tank kit.

- -Randy
'87 F-250 4x4HD

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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:34:24 -0700
From: "Ryan Penner"
Subject: Re: Tire Chains

>Dave
>Denver, CO - where you, too, can use your chains in October



Right after the "blizzard of '97" when the snow had mostly melted off the
main streets, I saw and heard the worst thing I have ever heard. I saw a
van with chains on driving on a paved road! Tell me that is not good for
either the road or your tires!

Ryan
Littleton, CO




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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:14:06 EST
From: ILuvTruks
Subject: Re: Block heater ?s

Hey, Mike,
On my 86 2.9L V6 the block heater is in the bottom hose. Mine doesn't
circulate any water, though, just warms the anti-freeze. It hasn't been cold
enough here to use it, so I don't even know if it works, but anyway it's on
the lower hose.
Clay

In a message dated 97-12-05 09:52:12 EST, you write:

> Does anyone know the way your supposed to install a tank circulation ( the
> kind thats a little tank that mounts externally from the engine and
connects
> to the engine drain plug for imput and then connects to one of the
> heatercore
> hoses) type block heater? My specific question is what heater hose should
> the
> output of the heater goto; the water pump of the connection by the top of
> the
> engine?
> The directions were unclear and Im confused.
> Its on a 87 ford Ranger with a 2.9L v-6
> Thankyou.
> Mike
> Gamer2000 aol.com
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Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 22:10:55 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Chip

Please refrain from the use of vulgar language on this site.

Peggy Payne
Coadmin FTE

At 06:38 PM 12/4/97 EST, you wrote:
>Jet chips suck ass! Get the best at www.superchips.com
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 22:40:23 EST
From: YEAGS15962
Subject: Re: Chip

Jet Chips suck ass huh? Well why don't u enlighten me and tell me why they
suck. I've had no problems with mine. If your gonna run your mouth at least
back it up
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 22:10:28 -0800
From: Ted Ladd
Subject: Automotive Propane Availability

Have need of information on the availability of automotive propane through out the
U.S. In western canada its readily available at a substantial numbers of service
stations and am interested in knowing if I switched to propane exclusively on my
88 F350 that the fuel would be available across the U.S. Am considering a trip
with our 5th wheel and the economics of propane versus gas in Canada make it a
very interesting alternative fuel for the 460 in my pride and joy. Would also
appreciate any comments on experiences of the group in the use of propane as a
fuel in general. I have had comments suggesting a loss in power but been unable to
get specifics. Any info would be appreciated. Ted Ladd.


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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 03:38:47 EST
From: Shadorite
Subject: Re: Automotive Propane Availability

Hey Tedd,
I am not very educated about propane, but having a father who works
for a propane company has its advantages. Ok here is what I know. we have had
4 trucks that ran off propane so far. First, was a '79 F150 with a 460. It had
a daul fuel setup. Which makes the truck capable of running off both gasoline
and propane. It was getting 16 mph on gas and 12 on propane. Not bad milage
for a 460. Next was a '90 Ford Ranger with a V6. sorry but the gas milage and
the engine size I am not familiar with. I took a persona; intrest in the full
size trucks of the family, not the minis. Next was a '92 F150 with a 302. This
is my fathers current truck. The propane tank it is the same that was on the
others. A 80gal tank. Due some mech. probs its milage is only 13 gas and 11
propane. However it was getting over 1200 miles to 80 gallons when he first
got the truck. The mech. probs were due to a car accident I was in. There was
also my brothers 85 F250 HD with a 460 that was running propane only. It was a
flat bed ranch truck. As I said it was only running propane, but was not built
for propane only. It was getting average of 11 miles to the gallon. Ok now as
for as knowing how to build a motor straight for propane, my brother and I are
currently working on design specs for this. So far we know that propane has an....


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