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fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, November 13 1997 Volume 01 : Number 218



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In this issue:

'99 Super Duty Info [Mitch Biarsky ]
Re: Electric Supercharger ["Mike Jones"]
Re: After Market Ranger Stuff [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
RE: After market Ranger stuff... ["Patrick Ward" ]
Performance catalog ["Casey Vandor" ]
Ranger tires (was Re: After Market Ranger Stuff) [Jason Pare
Re: Performance catalog [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Re: Performance catalog [Eric W Sneed ]
Re: Bedliners [Gary Gadwa ]
Re: After Market Ranger Stuff [Bill Morgan ]
Re: Ranger tires (was Re: After Market Ranger Stuff) [Splash689 aol.com]
Re: Ranger tires (was Re: After Market Ranger Stuff) [jsruss postoffice.w]
After Market Ranger Stuff [CASSIS universal.usa.com (Cassis, John)]
tires for sale [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Ranger Tires [CASSIS universal.usa.com (Cassis, John)]
Re: Ranger Tires [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
RE: Bedliners ["Beaman, James" ]
Re: Ranger Tires [Gardner ]
tires [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Re: Ranger Tires [Thom Cheney ]
Re: Bedliners [Thom Cheney ]
Re: Ranger Tires [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Truck lift [quadrai oberon.ark.com (quadrai)]
Truck lift [quadrai oberon.ark.com (quadrai)]
Re: Truck lift [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Re: Bedliners ["David J. Baldwin" ]
Re: After Market Ranger Stuff ["Froggy" ]
Do you like your F250LD? ["Chad Royse (Netcom)" ]
gregory ["Casey Vandor" ]
OOOOPS! ["Casey Vandor" ]
no horn [Brian Opp x1811 ]
Re:Diesel truck battery cables [MadPoodle aol.com]

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:09:49 -0500
From: Mitch Biarsky
Subject: '99 Super Duty Info

Another site to check for info on the '99 Super Duty's.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.meadowlandford.com/prod02.htm

Mitch

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:59:22 -0500
From: "Mike Jones"
Subject: Re: Electric Supercharger

Somebody posted an e-mail address for an electric supercharger. Superpac,
I think it's called. Laugh if you want, but this might be a lower-cost
alternative for my inboard tournament ski boat. I operate it exclusively
at higher altitudes, so it could use a little help pulling up heavy skiers
wearing drag-inducing wetsuits. Once skiers are up, the engine spends very
little time at full throttle, and there are no other accessories to drive,
so electric might make sense for my situation. (I really don't want to
decrease prop pitch, for a variety of reasons.)

Anyway, whomever posted originally, could you please re post the address
(or magazine) where you saw it? Sorry off the subject.

Thanks, Mike Jones

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:58:16 EST
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: After Market Ranger Stuff

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:55:43, -0500 KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J
TENNEY) writes:
>I agree....Rangers should come level 4x2 or 4x4.
>
>Josh


Well, what about when you put a load on it? My Ranger is level once I
get 400lbs
in the bed. Unlike the S10's that are level. You put 100lbs in the bed,
and that front end looks like it has its nose in the air.

Pickup trucks (full size and compact) are designed carry objects and have
weight
placed in the bed so that you can still have a normal ride.

Case and point: I have a 95 Ranger, and my friend has a 95 S10. My
Ranger's
rear end sits high, and the S10 sits level. We had a job to haul 2 cores
of chopped
wood to my ranch near Austin. We both make half core trips. My Ranger
has half a
core, the S10 has half a core. The Ranger sits nice and level, and drives
fine.
That S10's back wheels are deep into the wheel well, and that green
chebby looks like its trying to do back flip. I have no idea on how it
drives with that kind of
load, but I imagine that it couldn't have been all that great.

So what Im saying is that trucks (well, except that S10)that come from
the factory to do work. And if you want your truck to look level and
nice, then that's great, more power to ya. But don't forget what they are
designed for.

my .02

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Date: 13 Nov 1997 07:09:40 -0700
From: "Patrick Ward"
Subject: RE: After market Ranger stuff...

Ok guy's, i to think they should come from the factory like the toyotas
(same highth front and back). So whats the best way to level my 93 Ranger
4X4 S-CAB with out screwing up the alignment. I just put four brand new
Goodyear AT's 11.50X31.50 and new KYB shocks. I should only have to raise
it about 2". Do i have to change out the front shocks ??. Do i have to
get a bank loan ??. Someone please advise...

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 06:24:02 -0900
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: Performance catalog

Was somebody wanting to know the Performance Products catalog? If so, I
can give you the phone number. I think they even have a website you can get
a catalog from, but I don't know the address off the top of my head.
Casey

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:29:47 -0500
From: Jason Pare
Subject: Ranger tires (was Re: After Market Ranger Stuff)

All this talk about ride height, tires and lifts on your Rangers have me
thinking (and it hurts). I have Mazda's version of the 96 Ranger (3
liter S-cab, 4X4, 5spd, manual hubs/X case, 215/75R/15s. Built in NJ.)

Someone mentioned that they had the 265s from the factory. It seems like
the factory tire size for these trucks vary quite a bit. Does anyone
know the difference in factory gearing between the tire sizes (if there
is one)?

I'm trying to figure out how tall I can get the sneakers on my trucks
w/out gears or a lift. Thanks for any info.

- --
==================================
Jason Pare
jpare ziplink.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ziplink.net/~jpare/

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:41:57 +0000
From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Performance catalog

If you go back and read your mail , I posted the # yesterday .




From: "Casey Vandor"
To: "Ford Truck List"
Reply-to: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Subject: Performance catalog
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 15:24:02 +0000

Was somebody wanting to know the Performance Products catalog? If so, I
can give you the phone number. I think they even have a website you can get
a catalog from, but I don't know the address off the top of my head.
Casey


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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:22:18 -0800
From: Eric W Sneed
Subject: Re: Performance catalog

jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net wrote:
>
> If you go back and read your mail , I posted the # yesterday .
>
> From: "Casey Vandor"
> To: "Ford Truck List"
> Reply-to: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: Performance catalog
> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 15:24:02 +0000
>
> Was somebody wanting to know the Performance Products catalog? If so, I
> can give you the phone number. I think they even have a website you can get
> a catalog from, but I don't know the address off the top of my head.
> Casey
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THE WEB SITE IS PERFORMANCEPRODUCTS.COM. MY .O3 CENTS

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:32:52 -0700
From: Gary Gadwa
Subject: Re: Bedliners

Bedliners
If you are serious about taking care of your Pickup Bed go with ARMA
Lining or RHINO lining. The slide in Bed Liners are "bad news"! They are
slipperyer than you can imagine and they trap unwanted moisture under
the liner. I have the ARMA lining chose it over the Rhino lining just
because ite sprayed in hot rather than cold. Great Bed protection!!!
Totally water proof, non slip, insulating, very durable, lifetime
guarantee, can even be custom colored. I went to the trouble to
sandblast the bed of my 1990 F-250 Supercab first. Not necessary. Again
if you are serious about truck bed protection get the sprayed in liner.

Gary Gadwa
Stanley, Idaho
1990 F-250 351 4X4 Supercab Pickup
1996 Explorer
1931 Victoria Steelback

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:51:59 -0800
From: Bill Morgan
Subject: Re: After Market Ranger Stuff

Silent . Bob wrote:
>
> On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:55:43, -0500 KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J
> TENNEY) writes:
> >I agree....Rangers should come level 4x2 or 4x4.
> >
> >Josh
>
> Well, what about when you put a load on it? My Ranger is level once I
> get 400lbs
Well put and exactly what I was thinking...

Bill Morgan
93 F150 MarkIII Conversion
- --
Bill Morgan
Glory Bee Baking Co. & Honeycomb Suites
Gladewater, TX
903 845-4430
www.bbhost.com\honeycomb

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:34:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Splash689 aol.com
Subject: Re: Ranger tires (was Re: After Market Ranger Stuff)

The tallest tires you can get without a lift is 31x10.5 or 265/75R

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:05:11 +0000
From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Ranger tires (was Re: After Market Ranger Stuff)

I here this same thing over and over , but if you have the Ranger
that came from Ford with the 265/75 tires then you can fit 32's.
Firestone ATX 32x11.50 will fit with a little front valance triming
with a copping saw . The only thing that you will experience is that
with the 7" rim the tires will hit the radius arms on fully extened
turns . This can be cured by a 8" rim . The Firestone ATX'S are some
good sand tires for you sand fanatics 8) .




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Subject: Re: Ranger tires (was Re: After Market Ranger Stuff)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 17:34:15 +0000

The tallest tires you can get without a lift is 31x10.5 or 265/75R


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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 12:54
From: CASSIS universal.usa.com (Cassis, John)
Subject: After Market Ranger Stuff

Bob I see your point, but that is also what the add-a-leaf can take care
of too. If you want the truck to set level, but you frequently haul heavy
loads the add-a-leaf system (you know adds a leaf-spring or a small pack
of them to the leaf springs) seems to take care of this dilema. I know it
works well for my friends 4-Runner. My point is it could be made to work
one way or another. That realy sucks about the s-10 though......naaaaa
typical chevy crap! Those poor guys maybe they will learn....some day.

John Cassis
The Danger Ranger

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:31:45 +0000
From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: tires for sale

FOR SALE :
Super Swamper TSL SX'S 32x11.50x15 brand new set of four
$425+shipping from N.C.

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 13:22
From: CASSIS universal.usa.com (Cassis, John)
Subject: Ranger Tires

I've run Kellys Safari AWR's, Firestone Radial ATX's, Wide Climber (Alot
like a BFG mud terrain), and BF Goddrich Radial all Terain TA's, all of
these were radials 31x10.50's except the Firestones they were 32x11.50's.
The BFG's have been the best hands down. I can actualy stop on just
rained on pavement much less wet rough concrete. My 2 cents worth.

The Danger Ranger

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:45:28 +0000
From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Ranger Tires

John
Those BFG's might work good for you on road , but in my experience
and other hard core wheelers , we've found them to be no stronger in
the sidewall to any other make . If your looking for the best tire
(off-road) the Super Swampers DOMINANT BFG'S !! BFG'S are way over
priced and Goodyear MT's are crap . The best on road mud tire is the
Dunlop Rover MT . But of course all this matters on what you want
your tires to do for you .


From: CASSIS universal.usa.com (Cassis, John)
To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Reply-to: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Subject: Ranger Tires
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 13:22:00 +0000


I've run Kellys Safari AWR's, Firestone Radial ATX's, Wide Climber (Alot
like a BFG mud terrain), and BF Goddrich Radial all Terain TA's, all of
these were radials 31x10.50's except the Firestones they were 32x11.50's.
The BFG's have been the best hands down. I can actualy stop on just
rained on pavement much less wet rough concrete. My 2 cents worth.

The Danger Ranger



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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:16:41 -0600
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: Bedliners

Gary Gadwa wrote:

> Bedliners
> If you are serious about taking care of your Pickup Bed go with ARMA
> Lining or RHINO lining. The slide in Bed Liners are "bad news"! They
> are
> slipperyer than you can imagine and they trap unwanted moisture under
> the liner.
>
The slide in bed liners do have some advantages, IMHO, among them the
ability to absorb impacts better. Just this weekend, I tossed a sledge
hammer on my Duraliner and it just bounced off. Although spray-in
liners do provide some cushioning, I fear this type of impact would have
resulted in a dented bed. Just another data point for those trying to
decide between the two. My decision was made easier because I found a
barely used one for my '92 F250 for $100.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:27:43 -0500
From: Gardner
Subject: Re: Ranger Tires

jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net wrote:
>
> John
> Those BFG's might work good for you on road , but in my experience
> and other hard core wheelers , we've found them to be no stronger in
> the sidewall to any other make . If your looking for the best tire
> (off-road) the Super Swampers DOMINANT BFG'S !! BFG'S are way over
> priced and Goodyear MT's are crap . The best on road mud tire is the
> Dunlop Rover MT . But of course all this matters on what you want
> your tires to do for you .
>
> From: CASSIS universal.usa.com (Cassis, John)
> To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Reply-to: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: Ranger Tires
> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 13:22:00 +0000
>
> I've run Kellys Safari AWR's, Firestone Radial ATX's, Wide Climber (Alot
> like a BFG mud terrain), and BF Goddrich Radial all Terain TA's, all of
> these were radials 31x10.50's except the Firestones they were 32x11.50's.
> The BFG's have been the best hands down. I can actualy stop on just
> rained on pavement much less wet rough concrete. My 2 cents worth.
>
> The Danger Ranger
>
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I have to disagree...Mickey Thompsons seem towork well on my buddys 500
hp Dod*e pickup both on and off the street...Its the rear that has
problems dealing with the bite they give!

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:21:55 +0000
From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: tires

Which Mickey Thompsons ? I know you aren't saying there better in
mud,ruts,and rocks are you ?

Jimmy

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:31:47 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Ranger Tires

I have an unsolicited comment about the BFG's from a post I saved from
the Early Bronco list I am on. I have actually seen this tire & it
was on a fairly tough trail ride in the Tillamook Nat. Forest.

Tom Peil wrote:
>
> i am a firm believer in the mighty BFG. i have had a quite large stick
> hanging out of the side wall of one of my 33's. been there for over 2
> yrs and problobly 25,000 miles. some of you saw this at the sand lake
> run, and was wondering if i knew.. and yes i do and it still holds air,
> at 10 lbs and 35. (half afraid to mess with it) ;)
> Long live the BFG
>
> Tom
> 75 Bronc'

- --
Thom Cheney
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese
- --
Thom Cheney
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:36:29 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Bedliners

Beaman, James wrote:
>
> Gary Gadwa wrote:
>
> > Bedliners
> > If you are serious about taking care of your Pickup Bed go with ARMA
> > Lining or RHINO lining. The slide in Bed Liners are "bad news"! They
> > are
> > slipperyer than you can imagine and they trap unwanted moisture under
> > the liner.
> >
> The slide in bed liners do have some advantages, IMHO, among them the
> ability to absorb impacts better. Just this weekend, I tossed a sledge
> hammer on my Duraliner and it just bounced off. Although spray-in
> liners do provide some cushioning, I fear this type of impact would have
> resulted in a dented bed. Just another data point for those trying to
> decide between the two. My decision was made easier because I found a
> barely used one for my '92 F250 for $100.
>

In my neck of the woods (Portland, OR), the drop-in liner seems the
better deal. I am not dealing with road salt here, so rust is not a
major factor, even though we get more than our fair share of wet. I
was tempted to spend the extra $200 for the spray-on stuff, but some
of the newer liners have improved the slippery surface issue, and my
friend is STILL making trips back to the Rhino place to get those
mystery air bubbles removed.

- --
Thom Cheney
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:34:17 +0000
From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Ranger Tires

This is a good point of what I'm saying . If the BFG's are so great
why did a stick puncture the sidewall ? This would be more difficult
to acheive on a Swamper . I'm on the off-road.con list and all I hear
is how easily these tires are damaged .



From: Thom Cheney
To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Reply-to: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Subject: Re: Ranger Tires
Organization: tcgrafx
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 17:31:47 +0000

I have an unsolicited comment about the BFG's from a post I saved from
the Early Bronco list I am on. I have actually seen this tire & it
was on a fairly tough trail ride in the Tillamook Nat. Forest.

Tom Peil wrote:
>
> i am a firm believer in the mighty BFG. i have had a quite large stick
> hanging out of the side wall of one of my 33's. been there for over 2
> yrs and problobly 25,000 miles. some of you saw this at the sand lake
> run, and was wondering if i knew.. and yes i do and it still holds air,
> at 10 lbs and 35. (half afraid to mess with it) ;)
> Long live the BFG
>
> Tom
> 75 Bronc'

- --
Thom Cheney
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese
- --
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Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese


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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:51:28 -0800
From: quadrai oberon.ark.com (quadrai)
Subject: Truck lift

I recently purchased a 1994 Ford F-150. The truck was lift 3". What should I
look for to make sure that this installatioon was done properly ??

Tim

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:51:35 -0800
From: quadrai oberon.ark.com (quadrai)
Subject: Truck lift

I recently purchased a 1994 Ford F-150. The truck was lift 3". What should I
look for to make sure that this installatioon was done properly ??

Tim

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:56:08 +0000
From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Truck lift

Well first of all make sure everthing is tightened down well . Does
the truck have a dropped pitman arm ? Look for cracks in the
bracketry . Alignment ?


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Subject: Truck lift
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 20:51:35 +0000

I recently purchased a 1994 Ford F-150. The truck was lift 3". What should I
look for to make sure that this installatioon was done properly ??

Tim



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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:30:21 -0600
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: Bedliners

OK, the ultimate bedliner solution--so we don't have to argue about it
anymore: spray in a bedliner and then stick a slide-in type on top of
it! Then you get the corrosion resistance of the spray-on, and the
durability of the slide-in. All right, maybe the slide in is a little
more slippery. But, HEY!
Spray on a Rhino coating on top of the slide in liner! :^)

Thom Cheney wrote:
>
> Beaman, James wrote:
> >
> > Gary Gadwa wrote:
> >
> > > Bedliners
> > > If you are serious about taking care of your Pickup Bed go with ARMA
> > > Lining or RHINO lining. The slide in Bed Liners are "bad news"! They
> > > are
> > > slipperyer than you can imagine and they trap unwanted moisture under
> > > the liner.
> > >
> > The slide in bed liners do have some advantages, IMHO, among them the
> > ability to absorb impacts better. Just this weekend, I tossed a sledge
> > hammer on my Duraliner and it just bounced off. Although spray-in
> > liners do provide some cushioning, I fear this type of impact would have
> > resulted in a dented bed. Just another data point for those trying to
> > decide between the two. My decision was made easier because I found a
> > barely used one for my '92 F250 for $100.
> >
>
> In my neck of the woods (Portland, OR), the drop-in liner seems the
> better deal. I am not dealing with road salt here, so rust is not a
> major factor, even though we get more than our fair share of wet. I
> was tempted to spend the extra $200 for the spray-on stuff, but some
> of the newer liners have improved the slippery surface issue, and my
> friend is STILL making trips back to the Rhino place to get those
> mystery air bubbles removed.


- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
- --------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:04:37 -0500
From: "Froggy"
Subject: Re: After Market Ranger Stuff

John, I think your missing one vital issue. The FORD was designed as a
work truck. That in mind, when you load it down it sits level! Do that in
a truck that sits level when unloaded and it looks like a rocket ready for
take-off. A solution would be air shocks that would level a loaded
vehicle...or don't put a heavy load in it. Personally, I would rather it
be level also, which is easily accomplished with a "load-leveler" kit,
available for around $300. I bought a trailer to keep from having to
constantly abuse my truck, but it still sees itt's share of work.....froggy

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> From: Cassis, John
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: After Market Ranger Stuff
> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 1997 9:00 AM
>
>
> Compared to other trucks (like the toys) there does not seem to be nearly

> as much for the best selling truck in the US. What I do not understand is

> why 4x4 Rangers do not come from the factory with the front setting level

> with the rear. It makes the truck look much more like a 4x4, they could

> put 31x10.50's on them stock (which realy spreds the weight of the truck

> out better off-road) and you would not have to modify as much if you do a

> lot of 4-wheeling. I do alot of off-roading on the beaches down here in

> Texas and when I changed from the stock set-up to a 2 1/2" lift in the
> front, new shocks, 8" wheels, and 31's the truck floats on top of the
> sand so much better. You would realy have to be an idiot to get it stuck

> in the sand. What realy sucked was the guys with the toys just have to
> get new wheels and tires. Maybe I'm wrong and it's just my personal
> preferance but I realy think the truck looks so much better without the

> front sagging down all low to the ground. It's not a sports car, it's a

> truck. Anybody out there agree with this, or am I out in left field here?
>
> John Cassis
> The Danger Ranger
>
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:09:21 -0800
From: "Chad Royse (Netcom)"
Subject: Do you like your F250LD?

You may remember my post about Lemon-ing a Ford F250HD. Well, I'm
going to. I hate to. It's a black and silver two tone, 4x4,
Supercab, 460, XLT, Captain's chairs... Well enough whining. It's
got a whole new set of problems and I'm getting rid of her. So on to
my actual question.

If you own a 97 or 98 F250 Light Duty, do you like it? Anything you
don't like? I am asking because, I believe that is what I will get,
with 5.4L, 4x4, Supercab, and 3.73 limited slip.

Thanks in advance for your input!
Chad

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:37:58 -0900
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: gregory

Well don't send me your senior thesis, becasue Bloom says that I cannot do
it because I know you. I told her that I wouldn't copy it in the least,
and even if I did, she would know and fail me, but she still says NO! So I
am going to do Electric Vehicles. I HATE electric vehicles, but since all
the info is for them, I kinda have to write in favor of them. What do you
mean by the school email system? I'd be happy to tell him, but, I gotta
know what to ask him.......
Casey

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:41:34 -0900
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: OOOOPS!

Wrong address! Sorry for the mistake! :(
Casey

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:46:36 -0500
From: Brian Opp x1811
Subject: no horn

Hi

I'm the proud owner of a '94 Ford Ranger XLT 5spd 4cyl. Just recently, I
noticed that my horn doesn't work. Now in most cities, that's okay, but in
Boston, a horn is a drivers best weapon :-) Anyway, I don't have any of the
books or manuals for this model and I'd like to know how to fix this.
If it's a fuse, I need to know which one. I went to a local parts store and
the guy didn't know for sure. He thought it was the yellow fuse labeled '20'.
So I pulled of the fuse cover and sure enough, one of the '20' fuses was blown,
but my horn still doesn't work after replacing it. could it be another fuse? or
maybe another problem? Please help, my inspection is due the month and I don't
want to pay for the labor for such a minute task.

thanks,
Brian

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:03:28 -0500 (EST)
From: MadPoodle aol.com
Subject: Re:Diesel truck battery cables....


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