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fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, November 12 1997 Volume 01 : Number 215



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In this issue:

Ford Ranger Floor Mats ["Robert Stinnett TSO]
Re: 1996 Ford Ranger Rear Bumper For Sale ["Jerry Dean" ]
Re: Ford Expedition CAD Drawings ["C. E. White" ]
Driving/Fog lights [meadjr minotafb.ndak.net]
RE: nerf bars [meadjr minotafb.ndak.net]
Re: The 1999 Big-uns [NyteWng aol.com]
Oil Pan [Christopher Smith ]
Re: Oil Pan [James Federline ]
Re: Oil Pan [Steven McCullough ]
Auto Help Database ["Gene E. Utterback, EA, ATA, ATP" ]
Ford Ranger Floor Mats ["Robert Stinnett TSO]
Re: 300 Distributor problem [DUALIE aol.com]
Re: 99 Suspsension ["Jim Bielecki" ]
Re: Driving/Fog lights [DUALIE aol.com]
1994 turbo diesel E4OD shift problems [DUALIE aol.com]
Re: 1994 turbo diesel E4OD shift problems [alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepb]
Re: Ford Expedition CAD Drawings ["Cliff Boltz" ]
Re: Oil Pan [FOMOCONUT aol.com]
Winch bumpers/Rovers ["no spam" ]
Re:Diesels and International [mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)]
Re: Driving/Fog lights [Midwest96 aol.com]
Re: Driving/Fog lights [Geoffrey Hoffman ]
Repro stickers [ILuvTruks aol.com]
Re: Oil Pan [Husk77 aol.com]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #213 ["Alfred Iberri" ]

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:07:57 EST
From: "Robert Stinnett TSO8352 - HOMENODE"
Subject: Ford Ranger Floor Mats

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To the guy selling the floor mats --

your e-mail address isn't working (says user cannot store messages or
something to that extent). Anyway, I'd like to purchase the Ranger floor
mats. Just let me know how much and where to send it.

If anyone else knows where to pick up a set of Ranger floot mats, please
let me know. Right now I got a basic "grey" floormat, but would really
like to get some Ranger mats without paying the dealer an outrageous price.

Robert Stinnett, IS

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:34:06 -0500
From: "Jerry Dean"
Subject: Re: 1996 Ford Ranger Rear Bumper For Sale

Are you still interested in the rear bumper I have?

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:50:07 -0500
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: Re: Ford Expedition CAD Drawings

Sandro Deluca wrote:
>
> Hi! Writing to you from Australia. I am looking at converting Ford
> Expeditions from left to right hand drive for use on Australian roads.
> Can anyone assist me with CAD data/information on instrument panels,
> firewalls, etc Thanks
> Sandro DeLuca
> OEM Conversions

Does Ford sell F-150s with Right Had Drive? The Instrument Panels are
the same...or at least very close.

Ed

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:57:44 CDT
From: meadjr minotafb.ndak.net
Subject: Driving/Fog lights

Has anybody added on any aftermarket lights? I am looking at putting on either Piaa, Hella or KC Lights. I am unsure what lights or combo of lights would be best for snow/fog and off roading/back country travel where there is no other light source. We do quite a bit of back country, secondary roads at highway speeds where I have a tendancy to out drive the high beams.

JJ

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:14:42 CDT
From: meadjr minotafb.ndak.net
Subject: RE: nerf bars

Smittybuilt fits up the highest and has offers the best performmance in my opnion. Check out their web page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.smittybiltinc.com/. I have the regular nerf bars on our 92 Bronco. They have been on for aabout 5 1/2 years and they work great for us. I am getting the step bars for our 97 F250.

Hope this helps some

JJ

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:34:27 -0500 (EST)
From: NyteWng aol.com
Subject: Re: The 1999 Big-uns

Joe - the truck you saw was probably an "undercover" 1999 Super Duty F350
Crew Cab 4x2 DRW Pickup. I say 4x2 as the front axle used in this unit is, in
fact, a Twin-I-Beam and the 4x4 is a Monobeam and would certainly look much
higher with the standard 16" wheels. From the exhaust it could have been a
Power Stroke or the new 6.4L V-10 which is optional in all 350 models.

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:57:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Christopher Smith
Subject: Oil Pan

Over the weekend I was performing a routine oil change on my 85 4x4 F250
351. I must have strong armed the drain plug because it stripped out.
There was no washer on this bolt. It was the first time I had changed the
oil in it since recently purchasing it. All of my other Ford trucks have
had some type of washer on the drain plug. Is this the pan or the bolt
threads that have threatened out. What is the probability that I can
retap the pan and come out with some sturdy threads. Any remedies would
be much obliged.
Chris Smity
Anderson, IN

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:09:20 -0600 (CST)
From: James Federline
Subject: Re: Oil Pan

On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Christopher Smith wrote:
> Over the weekend I was performing a routine oil change on my 85 4x4 F250
> 351. I must have strong armed the drain plug because it stripped out.
> There was no washer on this bolt. It was the first time I had changed the
> oil in it since recently purchasing it. All of my other Ford trucks have
> had some type of washer on the drain plug. Is this the pan or the bolt
> threads that have threatened out.

You or a mechanic will have to determine that.

> What is the probability that I can
> retap the pan and come out with some sturdy threads. Any remedies would
> be much obliged.

The pan threads on an old '75 LTD 351 I had stripped on me once. I bought
a self-tapping drain plug and never had a problem with it.

Purists would recommend replacing the the pan. I would personally prepare
myself for doing that if the self-tapping plug didn't work. If it does,
it's a cheap fix that may work for a long time.

- -Jim

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:18:36 -0600
From: Steven McCullough
Subject: Re: Oil Pan

I did the same thing to my 90 F150. We ended up taking the stripped out
plug to an autoparts store and buying a self-tapping plug just slightly
larger (~1/32 larger). The new plug had a copper washer and the old one
had a plastic washer. I was able to put in the new plug and its very
strong, but I ended up using the original plastic washer since it sealed
much better than the copper. The copper always had a little drop of oil on
it. That was 3~4 years ago and no problems since. Oh, in my case, both
sets of threads were damaged, and just remember that you don't have to get
on it so hard to get a good seal if the washer is good.



At 01:57 PM 11/11/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Over the weekend I was performing a routine oil change on my 85 4x4 F250
>351. I must have strong armed the drain plug because it stripped out.
>There was no washer on this bolt. It was the first time I had changed the
>oil in it since recently purchasing it. All of my other Ford trucks have
>had some type of washer on the drain plug. Is this the pan or the bolt
>threads that have threatened out. What is the probability that I can
>retap the pan and come out with some sturdy threads. Any remedies would
>be much obliged.
> Chris Smity
> Anderson, IN
>
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Steven P. McCullough
Graduate Research Assistant
Section of Diagnostic Imaging Physics
U.T. M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
Office - (713) 792-0789
Fax - (713) 794-5272

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:45:14 -0800
From: "Gene E. Utterback, EA, ATA, ATP"
Subject: Auto Help Database

I recently stumbled across a reference to the following URLs. The one I
looked at included service notices from Ford regarding various issues
and problems.

Maybe everyone out there already knows about this. Since I didn't I
thought I'd pass it along for all to enjoy.

NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration)
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

Problems & Issues
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/

Technical Service Bulletins or
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/servicemmy1.cfm

I hope this helps any of you who have nagging problems that you can't
find the answers for.

Devient Gene

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:07:52 EST
From: "Robert Stinnett TSO8352 - HOMENODE"
Subject: Ford Ranger Floor Mats

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To the guy selling the floor mats --

your e-mail address isn't working (says user cannot store messages or
something to that extent). Anyway, I'd like to purchase the Ranger floor
mats. Just let me know how much and where to send it.

If anyone else knows where to pick up a set of Ranger floot mats, please
let me know. Right now I got a basic "grey" floormat, but would really
like to get some Ranger mats without paying the dealer an outrageous price.

Robert Stinnett, IS

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:53:09 -0500 (EST)
From: DUALIE aol.com
Subject: Re: 300 Distributor problem

If you want a good aftermarket distributor i suggest a HEI like they run on
some gm motors you can get one for you inline-six from davis unified
ignition. you can can call them at (901) 396-5782

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:03:24 -0500
From: "Jim Bielecki"
Subject: Re: 99 Suspsension

> And yea, we get disc brakes all the way around, that's a good thing. If
> you add up all the changes, then yeah, Ford did a lot for one model year
> (or two). But is the '99 that radical of a redesign to warrant all the
> hoopla?
>
> Joe

Right now it's hard to tell. Everything we know about the 1999 F-350 is
from press releases and from early dealer literature. We'll have to wait a
few months until the truck/car magazines give thorough reports before we'll
know the full extent of the changes. My guess is, yes, that this vehicle
WILL be worth all of the hoopla.

It's also worthwhile noting that new vehicles are a lot more than new
engines, frames, suspensions and transmissions. The WAY the vehicle is
built is another facet of engineering that we rarely talk about. The new
F-350 will also introduce greatly improved assembly techniques (new
stamping machines, robots, assembly procedures, etc.) that should produce a
much higher quality vehicle. The new F-150 is light years ahead of the old
in terms of build quality (and in the J.D. Powers survey), and I expect the
new F-350 to show the same quantum leap in quality when compared to the
1997.

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:07:43 -0500 (EST)
From: DUALIE aol.com
Subject: Re: Driving/Fog lights

well if your going to be doing a lot of off roading may i suggest the
brightest aftermarket lights avalible C-1000 frome Dick Cepek there a little
on the pricey side but man are thay bright thay retail for around $200 a pair
you can order them directly through Dick Cepek at (310) 527-5888

hope that helps

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:13:58 -0500 (EST)
From: DUALIE aol.com
Subject: 1994 turbo diesel E4OD shift problems

I have a 1994 F-350 crew cab 7.3L turbo diesel (not a powerstroke) with an
E4OD tranny and since I have owned it ford has had to put 8 different
transmitions in it and they finaly got it straightened out to the point where
its semi reliable but it still suffers from sluggish shifts from 2nd to 3rd
and 3rd to 4th when the gear hits it jeks prety hard and I was wondering is
there any thing I can do to improve the shifts. I've taken it to two
dealerships (the first being a HD ford dealer that only dose trucks) and thay
couldent sem to cure it but my little city dealership could.

any help would be greatly appriciated

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:32:14 -0800
From: alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Subject: Re: 1994 turbo diesel E4OD shift problems

> I have a 1994 F-350 crew cab 7.3L turbo diesel (not a powerstroke)
> with an E4OD tranny and since I have owned it ford has had to put 8
> different transmitions in it and they finaly got it straightened out
> to the point where its semi reliable but it still suffers from sluggish
> shifts from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th when the gear hits it jeks prety
> hard and I was wondering is there any thing I can do to improve the
> shifts. I've taken it to two dealerships (the first being a HD ford
> dealer that only dose trucks) and thay couldent sem to cure it but my
> little city dealership could.

well, I've heard of a place up near Sacramento, Ca that rebuilds these
transmissions so they're better than new. I've got a list of what they
do, and a quote from them (they aren't cheap!) if anybody's interested.
I haven't had mine worked on by them (yet) but they got good reviews
in several magazines a couple of years ago. I'm waiting 'til my tranny
gives up again, and then I'll decide between a new tranny and a new truck
(I'm leaning toward the new truck!)

- ---

Alan Hepburn | |
National Semiconductor | DON'T TREAD ON ME |
Santa Clara, Ca | |
alanh galaxy.nsc.com | |

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 18:51:35 -0500
From: "Cliff Boltz"
Subject: Re: Ford Expedition CAD Drawings

Hey I wil talk to you about that later. I'm fixing to leave to help
Mrs.Boltz so I will tlk to you later. Are you trying to send me a
picture?LOVE YOU

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From: Sandro Deluca
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Tuesday, November 11, 1997 5:30 AM
Subject: Ford Expedition CAD Drawings


>Hi! Writing to you from Australia. I am looking at converting Ford
>Expeditions from left to right hand drive for use on Australian roads.
>Can anyone assist me with CAD data/information on instrument panels,
>firewalls, etc Thanks
>Sandro DeLuca
>OEM Conversions
>e-mail ;sandro hotkey.net.au
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:40:50 -0500 (EST)
From: FOMOCONUT aol.com
Subject: Re: Oil Pan

ahhhhhhh don't fret my good man..... The Dearborn boys have taken care of all
of us on this one.. Ford oil pan drain plugs are designed soft to wear out
and protect the pan from wear.... they should actually be replaced from time
to time... Without the washer this "stripping" of the plug will occur very
easily.. Just go the your local dealer and buy a few... they are very
inexpensive.

John L. Miller
96 F-350 4x4
96 F-250 4x4
92 Mustang

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:39:09 -0500
From: "no spam"
Subject: Winch bumpers/Rovers

Hi I'm new here. I'm a recovering Land Rover Addict. (Ok say it...*in
unison* "Hi Ron!)
I've got two Land Rovers (Range Rover and Ex Military Series IIa). Neither
work right now.
So last week I got fed up and went out and bought a Ford Ranger 4.0 L XLT
etc.
Right off I noticed some amazing differences. Like... what good is a $1200
stereo if you can't
hear it? Rangers have this stuff called "headroom." I'd forgotten trucks
could get more than
10 mpg. What's the deal with this no tune-up for 100K miles? What am I
supposed to do
with my weekends? Pay attention to my family? I dunno. It's a scarey
thing having a truck
that works. Anyway. The question is... does anyone know where I can buy a
bumper winch
combo for a 98' Ranger? I don't see any ads yet for 98' Rangers. Lift
kits either. That's of
course in the works. Thanks. As soon as I'm out of my inpatient program
and Rover free
I'll be able to devote more time here.
- --ron



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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:55:42 -0500
From: mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)
Subject: Re:Diesels and International

Warren- I was talking about the F series Ford pick-ups not the Ranger or
Bronco series. Sorry for the misunderstanding----------------Ian

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 20:55:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Midwest96 aol.com
Subject: Re: Driving/Fog lights

In a message dated 97-11-11 14:42:53 EST, you write:


either Piaa, Hella or KC Lights. I am unsure what lights or combo of lights
would be best for snow/fog and off roading/back country travel where there
is no other light source. We do quite a bit of back country, secondary roads
at highway speeds where I have a tendancy to out drive the high beams.

JJ >>
I have PIAA and I would recomend them. KCs cracked and flooded out too easy.
Ne experience w/Hella

Craig

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:33:24 -0500
From: Geoffrey Hoffman
Subject: Re: Driving/Fog lights

At 8:55 PM -0500 11/11/97, Midwest96 aol.com wrote:
>I have PIAA and I would recomend them. KCs cracked and flooded out too easy.
> Ne experience w/Hella

I had KC's on my jeep for four years, and they worked great.

just my $.02....

- --
Geoffrey Hoffman gch2 cornell.edu
Cornell University http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pobox.com/~hoffy

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:36:34 -0500 (EST)
From: ILuvTruks aol.com
Subject: Repro stickers

Who was it here that knew of someone who sells stickers to replace the ones
that are on the alternator, valve cover, etc. I don't remember who wrote in
but I can't find the posting with the address and such. If that person could
write me or if anyone happens to have that post it would be appreciated. TIA

Clay

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:13:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Husk77 aol.com
Subject: Re: Oil Pan

There are commercially availble plugs just for such problems. Check your
local parts store.

The Husker

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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 03:05:13 -0500
From: "Alfred Iberri"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #213

STATX5 aol.com wrote:

Hi Group
>
> I've owned ford pu trucks for many years now and I'm completly
satisfied. A
> stange thing is happening, my three little ones are getting bigger and
are
> complaining about lack of elbow room in the back seat of my extended
> cab,especially on those long trips! Well any way they almost have me
> convinced to buy a conversion van, just wondering if anyone has any words
of
> advise on Ford models!! (Never owned a van )
> STILL KEEPING THE 89 F250 4X4 EXTENDED CAB!!!!


What can pull a 9000 pound trailer, carry up to 12 people, and has removal
seats (in case you need to make like a moving van) and can do all of this
in comfort and in style. A Ford Club Wagon. Which is nothing more than an
Econoline with seats.

I have a 92 Club Wagon HD, an E350 configuration. It has a 460 V8 with a
3.54 axle ratio. I opted for the four captains chairs and rear bench seat.
Therefore, it only seats seven. However, the rear seat can be lowered into
a queen size bed, no kidding. This comes in handy if you like to take a nap
or do other things?

The black beauty (Raven Black, with no clear coat) halls ass. The first
time I pulled a trailer, (a 30-foot Terry) I had to pass a truck. Having
NEVER passed anything pulling a trailer, I was a bit nervous (scared
sh*tless) and wanted to make sure there was plenty of room before I
returned to the slow lane. By the time I was ready to move into the slow
lane, the trailer, van and I were doing EIGHT FIVE-MILES AN HOUR or more.
The speedo was stuck at 85.

This vehicle has been a delight. It has 65,000 miles and I just replaced
the original tires. It is heavy. I weighed it at a CAT scale and the ticket
read 6,700 pounds.

Have I had problems? Only a few. I replaced the alternator at 40K, U-joint
at 62K. It had a quirk with the door locks/security system (actually a Ford
and TRW part failure, not covered by warranty) and I had to replace the
receiving unit. For some reason the rear side door handle failed and needed....

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