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fordtrucks80up-digest Monday, November 10 1997 Volume 01 : Number 213



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In this issue:

Re: 4WD Lubrication [David Hertzberg ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #212 [Bill Funk ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #209 [alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepburn)]
Re: Please help decode VIN # [William Martin (Temp) ]
PowerStroke Lope Idle [Jay Chlebowski ]
nerf bars [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
1999 Super duty [Tony Rio ]
RE: Leaky Bronco II [Tony Rio ]
Re: 84 Bronco Ignition Problem ["David J. Baldwin" ]
'94 F150 Tranny and gas gauge questions [Tony Rio ]
Re: Ranger Shift snick 1st to 2nd [Thom Cheney ]
Re: Conversion vans [Thom Cheney ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #209 [Nathan Heid ]
Conversion vans [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: Mystery suspension part? [Joe Maleski ]
RE: Mystery suspension part [greg.medert gsa.gov]
RE: Mass air conversion... [greg.medert gsa.gov]
RE: Mystery suspension part? Part II [Michael Wray
Bed Liners ["Judy Thill (MG MSMAIL)" ]
fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #212 [Andrew T Vincitore
Re: 99 Big-uns - More Pictures [john yee ]
2.3L Ranger Power [SNOOP22222 aol.com]
300 Distributor problem ["s" ]
Re: nerf bars ["Lare/Eric" ]
Re: nerf bars [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Re: nerf bars ["Lare/Eric" ]

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 06:01:13 PST
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: Re: 4WD Lubrication

yes, i was referring to the two differentials. on my little toyota we have a
transaxle. sorry for the confusion.
>
>>From: David Hertzberg
>>Subject: Re: 4WD Lubrication
>>dave r: excellent--just the information i was looking for.
>>one last question: i read somewhere in an earlier post
>>(perhaps one of yours) that using synthetic gear oil in the
>>rear transaxle was adviseable--what about the front
>>transaxle?? any thoughts?? thanks, david
>
>Yo David:
>
>The term "transaxle" usually refers to a combined (in a single case)
>transmission and differential gear (axle) assembly. Perhaps you are
>referring to differentials?
>
>Here's what I know: Eaton, Dana/Spicer, Fuller, and other manufacturers of
>heavy truck application gearboxes (transmissions, differentials, etc.)
>almost unanimously recommend synthetic lubricants in gearboxes to reduce
>operating friction and improve fuel economy in large trucks.
>
>I would speculate that in a pickup truck, operating friction would account
>for a lot less power loss (inefficiency) than in the gearboxes on a large
>truck, but there might still be some efficiency to be gained w/ synthetic
>lubes. Since gear lube is changed a lot less often than engine oil, the
>additional cost of the synthetic gear lube would be spread over a lot more
>miles and the (probably minimal) improvement in fuel efficiency would be
>easier to justify than any improvements you could attribute to synthetic
>engine oil.
>
>Additionally, I would look carefully at the service literature supplied by
>the manufacturer of your truck's gearboxes (Ford, Warner, ZF, New
>Process/New Venture, whoever) to find out what they recommend. I would
>probably not risk using a synthetic lube if the manufacturer specifically
>recommended against it in a particular application.
>
>Except for the special lubrication requirements of some traction aid device
>(such as a limited slip or locking differential), if the front and rear
>differentials are of the same type, I can think of no reason that the same
>gear lube couldn't be used in both front and rear differentials.
>
>In general, I would go for synthetic gear lube before I would go for
>synthetic engine oil, but either way, I would only buy products with the
>appropriate API certification for their intended purpose.
>
>Dave R. (M-block devotee)
>
>
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David and Leila Hertzberg
Greystoke Farm
Gaithersburg, Maryland
301-482-0016
ACdhertz us-state.osis.gov


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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:52:51 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #212

> From: "Gene E. Utterback, EA, ATA, ATP"
> Subject: 84 Bronco Ignition Problem
>
> HELP!!

...

>
>
> Someone in PEPBOYS (not an emoployee - a customer who overhead me
> talking with my mechanic) suggested that perhaps the ignition switch
> module actuating rod, actuated by the ignition key, needs adjustment.
> Neither my wrench not I have ever heard of this. Is this legitimate?
>
> Also, if anyone out there has any suggestions I'd gladly appreciate
> whatever help is given.
>
> Thanks for listening,
>
> Devient Gene

That rod does exist. It's pushed on by a lever turned by the key when
you put it in the START position. The rod goes down the steering
collumn, and presses on a switch that activates the starting solonoid.
Over the years, it can shorten a small amount by being pressed so often
(NOT one of Ford's better ideas!); replacement requires removal of the
steering wheel and associated hardware.However, this is only for the
starting sequence - it won't have anything to do with your described
problem of the ignition cutting out. That's probably a bad connection
somewhere, or even a broken wire.
Good luck.
Bill Funk

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:07:46 -0800
From: alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #209

Ian sez:

> Bill, all diesels foundin ford pickups are made by international.

you might want to qualify that; I personally know of a Ford pickup
that contains an Isuzu diesel...of course it didn't come from the
factory that way! Let's just say that all diesels found in Ford
pickups as they leave the factory are made by International!

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Alan Hepburn | |
National Semiconductor | DON'T TREAD ON ME |
Santa Clara, Ca | |
alanh galaxy.nsc.com | |

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:10:22 -0800 (PST)
From: William Martin (Temp)
Subject: Re: Please help decode VIN #

>
> In a message dated 97-11-07 07:41:59 EST, you write:
>
>
> Where can you get information like this? How do you know?
>
> Craig
> >>
>
> Craig,
> I looked it up in my Ford Light Truck Shop Manual for Body / Chassis/
> Electrical, It breaks down all the codes in detail.
>
> Phil
>
About the axle codes for these trucks...I have some more info now that I
have this monster home. It has an axle code of "31", which I suspect is
3.xx:1 . Also, much to my delight, it is NOT equipped with a catatonic,
errrr, catalytic converter! There may be a nice set of headers & duals
in its future.

A couple of questions have come up since I got to drive it some distance
at hiway speeds. The oil pressure is great when cold at all speeds, ok
at 30mph & up when hot, but just about dissapears at idle when hot. I'm
suspecting it needs a new oil pump...there are no obnoxious noises from
the engine even when the pressure goes away. Not even a ticking lifter!
Anyone experienced these symptoms?

thanks,
Bill martin

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 10:22:25 -0600
From: Jay Chlebowski
Subject: PowerStroke Lope Idle

Howdy All:

I've got a small concern that I think might have been addressed
previously. It seems that once my 97 PowerStroke gets up to normal
operating temps, it falls into a slight lope at idle. It doesn't do this
when cold, but lately seems to be getting a bit more noticeable.

Now, it's not a very large fluctuation -- it sits around 650rpm normally,
but seems to rythymically fall to 625rpm, then up to 675rpm and then
650rpm in a constant cycle. Since the fuel rate is computer controlled,
I suspect a sensor is feeding the PCM some bad info, but I'd like to
offer a clue to the dealer when I take it in & I need any suggestions.

The dealer is none too bright and is still trying to trace down a small
oil leak that I'm geting after three trips in.

Oh well, I guess since it's under warranty I'll just let them keep
fiddling with it as long as the thing keeps running good.

On the subject of the new F-SuperDuty's, the link at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.f150 online. com/articles/1999f250.html provides the best
pictures I've seen, and from what I can tell, they appear more handsome
than I thought they might. I like the fact that they kept the Alcoa's --
very classy. I can't wait to see what axles they stick under the 4x4
versions of the F450 & F550. A Dana 60 would seem to have too small of a
GAWR for the GVWR's that Ford is touting on those trucks -- anyone have
any clues?

Thanx & Best Regards,
Jay

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:18:07 +0000
From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: nerf bars

Does anyone know of some nerf bars that mount close to the body of a
96 Ranger Supercab ? I need to protect the rocker panels !!

Jimmy

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:30:48 -0600
From: Tony Rio
Subject: 1999 Super duty



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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:38:42 -0600
From: Tony Rio
Subject: RE: Leaky Bronco II

Lou...

My aunt had a problem with water leaking into her Chevy full size. The
truck always smelled very musty inside, and it turned out that water was
seeping in through the openings by the windshield wipers. It was running
in and soaking the backside of the dash and such, and would make the
truck stink. If I remember correctly, a little dab of silicone took care of it.
Not sure if this helps, but you may wish to investigate.

Tony

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:52:19 -0600
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: 84 Bronco Ignition Problem

Gene E. Utterback, EA, ATA, ATP wrote:
>
> HELP!!
>
> I have a 1984 Full Size Bronco with a 351M, 4bbl Holly Carb and
> Electronic Iginition.
>
> I know I have a carbuerator problem. The floats are sticking and the
> carb loads up and floods easliy. If the truck doesn't start on the
> first or second try, it won't start till the carb dries out.

If the floats are sticking or sunk (leaked and filled with fuel, then
sunk) you will probably notice fuel hosing out of the air horns that
vent the float bowls. The ones I've worked on were about 1/4 inch tubes
that stick up vertically in front of--and between--the venturii. This
is usually cut off at a 45 degree angle.

Another way to tell is to remove the fuel level adjustment sight (if
yours has one) on the float bowls and see if fuel comes draining out.
If it does, there are three problems that I can think of causing it: (1)
Sunk float, (2) bad needle/seat assembly, and (3), fuel level adjusted
too high. It could be as simple as (3), and all you need to do is
adjust the fuel height. This is accomplished by releasing the jam nut
on the large slotted screw head on the top of the float bowl. When the
nut is released, turn the screw head with a screwdriver until fuel is
level with the bottom of the adjustment sight. The engine must be
running to do this, of course. If fuel comes hosing out the sight even
with the adjustment tightened down all the way, you've got (1) or (2);
fix the problem first--don't cause a fire!

I've seen some Holleys without fuel level sights (cost reduction). For
a quick check in this case, remove one of the top float bowl attachment
bolts. Under no circumstances should any fuel come out of here when the
vehicle is stationary.

If you've got LOTS of black smoke coming out the back, it could be a
ruptured power valve diaphragm. The power valve is the achilles-heel of
the Holley 4bbl. This apparatus richens the mixture when you accelerate
heavily by sensing a drop in manifold vaccuum. If you evey have a
backfire, you have a good chance of rupturing the diaphragm, which
allows the float bowl to drain directly into the plenum. The engine
hardly runs when this happens, and belches loads of black smoke. If
this is your problem, it will NEVER run right. If you have intermittent
running problems, this probably isn't it.

One thing I forgot: with emissions design, the float bowls may vent into
a carbon canister. They might be allowing this thing to fill with
fuel. I don't have a manual on your truck, so I can't be certain. If
you have a canister, it shouldn't fill with liquid fuel--it is to
contain vapors only. If it fills with fuel (either through the carb or
some other way) the carb may not be able to vent properly, which would
cause erratic running.

>
> Since I've started putting the truck back together, it has developed a
> nasty ignition problem. Sometimes it starts and sometimes it doesn't.

I remember Ford ignition modules having problems in the mid '80s. Don't
know if yours could be affected, but it probably would've been replaced
by now anyway.

Don't overlook the simple stuff, too. Like plug wires--after 14 years,
they probably need to go. Rotor cap? Other stuff like that.

Good luck. Keep us posted.

- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:07:57 -0600
From: Tony Rio
Subject: '94 F150 Tranny and gas gauge questions

Question...

I have noticed that when I am on the expressway and speed up from
about 50, when the F150 automatic tranny shifts, I get a vibration and a
rumbling noise. Sometimes it is hardly noticable, other times it is big. I
asked my mechanic if it could be transmission fluid, but he said the last
time he changed the oil (1 month and 2700 miles ago) he checked the
fluid, and it seemed fine. Any other suggestions? Also, the gas gauge
will not register the front tank. It will show either half full or totally empty
at any given time, no matter how much gas is in the tank. It works fine
with the rear tank.

Thanks!!!

Tony

- ---------------------------------------------------
Tony Rio
Allstate Insurance
Enterprise Help Center
Integration Owner - PRC Analyst
Groupwise ID: TRIO1
X 28686

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:25:02 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Ranger Shift snick 1st to 2nd

srramona pacbell.net wrote:
>
> I have a 96 Mazda B2300 4 banger/5 speed, 7K at 15 months.
> Delighted with the truck except for one irritating thing; There is a
> pronounced "snick" when shifting from 1st to 2nd gear. No meshing problems
> with the other transitions.


I have had this with another vehicle....not really a "bind" or a
"grind"...just a "snick", as you describe. I drove it like that for
well over 100,000 miles with no problems. Not sure what caused it,
but it never broke!

- --
Thom Cheney
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:30:28 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: Conversion vans

STATX5 aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi Group
>
> I've owned ford pu trucks for many years now and I'm completly satisfied. A
> stange thing is happening, my three little ones are getting bigger and are
> complaining about lack of elbow room in the back seat of my extended
> cab,especially on those long trips! Well any way they almost have me
> convinced to buy a conversion van, just wondering if anyone has any words of
> advise on Ford models!! (Never owned a van )
> STILL KEEPING THE 89 F250 4X4 EXTENDED CAB!!!!

If you can live with the new mirrors, you ought to wait for the crew
cab truck, due out any time... 4 real doors & a truck bed.

- --
Thom Cheney
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:19:35 -0500
From: Nathan Heid
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #209

>you might want to qualify that; I personally know of a Ford pickup
>that contains an Isuzu diesel...of course it didn't come from the
>factory that way! Let's just say that all diesels found in Ford
>pickups as they leave the factory are made by International!

Who made the diesel used in the Ranger in the mid '80s???

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:23:17, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Conversion vans

My dad is on his third Ford Conversion Van. The Ford is only the
drivetrain and dash layout. That will be good forever. The
conversion is the difficult decision There are many companies out
there, so you should shop around.
Josh

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:06:50 -0800
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: Re: Mystery suspension part?

That little piece of plastic is there to keep the tie down chains from
chafeing on the leaf spring while the truck is in transit from the factory
to the dealer. Normally it is supposed to be removed during the
pre-delivery inspection but more often than not I see them still there.
I've never seen it taped in place, though.

Joe

>My truck: 1997, F-250, 4X4, Powerstroke.
>
>On both sides there is a black plastic spacer inserted between the front
>leaf springs. The spacer is taped in place with black duct tape and is
>marked "discard". Any ideas what they are there for. And the obvious
>question, should they be discarded?

************************************
Joe Maleski
Santa Clara, CA
1994 F-250HD SuperCab 4X4, 460/5-spd

mailto:jmaleski auspex.com

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Date: 10 Nov 97 10:35:00 (-0500)
From: greg.medert gsa.gov
Subject: RE: Mystery suspension part

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Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 12:59:13 -0600
From: ccbg054
Subject: Mystery suspension part?

My truck: 1997, F-250, 4X4, Powerstroke.

On both sides there is a black plastic spacer inserted between the
front
leaf springs. The spacer is taped in place with black duct tape and is
marked "discard". Any ideas what they are there for. And the obvious
question, should they be discarded?

Thanks,
Bill

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Bill this is a part that should have been removed by the dealer when
they prepped the car upon delivery from the factory. These are parts
used by automakers to keep the suspensions from bottomming out and
bouncing while being transported on car carriers or train.

greg.medert gsa.gov

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Date: 10 Nov 97 10:54:00 (-0500)
From: greg.medert gsa.gov
Subject: RE: Mass air conversion...

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 08:19:10 -0600
From: "Lopez, Raoul"
Subject: One More Try, I Need Help Converting a 1985 F-150 4X4 5.0 EFI
to M ass Air Metering

Does anyone have any technical expertise in this area? I have a 1985
F-150 4X4 with a 5.0 EFI. I spoke with someone on the Ford Motorsport
SVO Tech Line about converting my '85 to mass air. Their reply was
Ford makes a conversion kit for '87 and newer 5.0's but 85's and 86's
were excluded for some reason and they couldn't help me. If I can
convert I believe it makes the addition of cams, headers,
superchargers, etc. easier. Does anyone have any info on converting
an '85 from speed density engine management to mass air metering?
Thanks,
Raoul Lopez
Rlopez sscpan.ssc.nasa.gov

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Raoul,
It is my understanding that the '85 is not a true fuel injected 5.0
but rather a throttle body injected 5.0. The mass air conversion kits
are only available for the fuel injected 5.0 (has 8 fuel injectors in
intake). I think the '86 was a fuel injected 5.0 so I don't understand
SVO saying 87 and newer. Take a look to find out for certain which you
have. If you truely have the fuel injected 5.0 then the 87 and newer
conversion can be made to work. Contact Ford Performance Specialists
at 770-577-3005 Douglasville, GA. They can sell you the parts or
install it for you. Hope this helps.

greg.medert gsa.gov
Atlanta, Ga

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:03:07 -0800
From: Michael Wray
Subject: RE: Mystery suspension part? Part II

I also have this little piece of suspension part that I do know have
any idea what it is.

It is located on the back axle (on the drivers side). It's kind of a
loop looking thingy.

I was told that it helps keep the backend brakes from locking up.
Kind of strange tho'

This is on a '86 F250 Supercab 4X4

Also, I was told the is a SD truck. How can I tell?

Thanx for all the responses and help. :)

Michael

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:36:50 -0600
From: "Judy Thill (MG MSMAIL)"
Subject: Bed Liners

Has anyone ever used, heard of, know any thing about Side Liners? This
is a 3 piece liner for the truck bed that covers the two sides and
front. It is designed to be used with a bed mat and a tail gate
protector. It is supposedly made out of the same plastic as a normal
one-piece bed liner and there is no drilling or use of screws to
install. It just fits up under the side rails and the bed mat helps
hold the bottom of the pieces in place. I like the thought of being
able to take the liner out once in a while (and be able to do it
myself). I also like the storage potential for three smaller pieces
instead of one big one. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!

Judy Thill
Fire Operations Officer
Maple Grove Fire Department

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:52:28 -0500
From: Andrew T Vincitore
Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #212

Message text written by INTERNET:fordtrucks80up ListService.net
>
Subject: Re: Golf Games

If I wanted entertainment I would not have linked up with the Ford
Enthusiasts!

Put your funnies where the sun does not shine.

B. Carothers


You know, it was a funny joke and this list can get a bit dry sometimes. =
I
think it is part of the friendly informality of this list. =

So I say, laugh a little!

Peace

Andrew

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:58:28 -0800
From: john yee
Subject: Re: 99 Big-uns - More Pictures

Mitch Biarsky wrote:
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.f150 online. com/articles/1999f250.html
>
> Mitch
>

Picked this off of Jason's site - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.abol.com/users/jlester/

1999 preview link:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.boyerford.com/

- -john

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:07:07 -0500 (EST)
From: SNOOP22222 aol.com
Subject: 2.3L Ranger Power

What's the best way to increase the power on a Ranger with a 2.3L engine?

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:12:22 -0500
From: "s"
Subject: 300 Distributor problem

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have any suggestions on what=20
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distributers.
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 18:02:49 -0500
From: "Lare/Eric"
Subject: Re: nerf bars

I've got Smittybilt on my '94 Splash Ext. Cab. They were the only ones
that I could find that went from wheel to wheel (it seems most extend just
the length of the cab - not beyond to the bed & rear wheel). I wanted mine
for protection as well (among other things - I'm only 5'-4" tall and my
truck has a 4" suspension lift with 32" tires) - two years and they're
holding up very well - just a few nicks in the black powdercoat.

These bars hang about 1.5" from the bottom of the body (rocker panel?) -
I'm not real bright when it comes to autobody talk - I'm more into the
mechanics (BSME).

Hope this helps,

Eric S. - '94 Splash Ext. Cab 4x4, Slightly Modified


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> From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
> To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: nerf bars
> Date: Monday, November 10, 1997 7:18 AM
>
> Does anyone know of some nerf bars that mount close to the body of a
> 96 Ranger Supercab ? I need to protect the rocker panels !!
>
> Jimmy
> +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 and Newer --------------+
> | Send posts to fordtrucks80up listservice.net, |
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:04:47 +0000
From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: nerf bars

Eric
Thanks for the info : What was the cost of your bars ? This sounds
like the ones I want .



From: "Lare/Eric"
To:
Reply-to: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Subject: Re: nerf bars
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 23:02:49 +0000

I've got Smittybilt on my '94 Splash Ext. Cab. They were the only ones
that I could find that went from wheel to wheel (it seems most extend just
the length of the cab - not beyond to the bed & rear wheel). I wanted mine
for protection as well (among other things - I'm only 5'-4" tall and my
truck has a 4" suspension lift with 32" tires) - two years and they're
holding up very well - just a few nicks in the black powdercoat.

These bars hang about 1.5" from the bottom of the body (rocker panel?) -
I'm not real bright when it comes to autobody talk - I'm more into the
mechanics (BSME).

Hope this helps,

Eric S. - '94 Splash Ext. Cab 4x4, Slightly Modified


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> From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
> To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: nerf bars
> Date: Monday, November 10, 1997 7:18 AM
>
> Does anyone know of some nerf bars that mount close to the body of a
> 96 Ranger Supercab ? I need to protect the rocker panels !!
>
> Jimmy
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 18:19:36 -0500
From: "Lare/Eric"
Subject: Re: nerf bars

Most of the retail and warehouse/catalog places wanted around $170 for
them; I ended up waiting for A&A (retail outlet in PA) to have them on
sale (I lived right beside them, so I kept checking every few days - only
took about three weeks) for $134. If you have the patience, I think it's
worth it - spent the difference on new extra coverage mud flaps.

These were a breeze to put in, too. I only had to drill one hole in the
frame by the front cross-member on each side - the other five bolts (3
front & rear) lined up with existing holes (make sure you load up on
Rustoleum/Sealer/Rust Protectant/Etc. where you drill - I had a Toyota in
my youngin days and didn't perform this crucial step - about a year and a
half later the rusted out frame said farewell to my nerf bars - at 55
mph!).

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> From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
> To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: Re: nerf bars
> Date: Monday, November 10, 1997 2:04 PM
>
> Eric
> Thanks for the info : What was the cost of your bars ? This sounds
> like the ones I want .
>
>
>
> From: "Lare/Eric"
> To:
> Reply-to: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: Re: nerf bars
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 23:02:49 +0000
>
> I've got Smittybilt on my '94 Splash Ext. Cab. They were the only ones
> that I could find that went from wheel to wheel (it seems most extend
just
> the length of the cab - not beyond to the bed & rear wheel). I wanted
mine
> for protection as well (among other things - I'm only 5'-4" tall and my
> truck has a 4" suspension lift with 32" tires) - two years and they're
> holding up very well - just a few nicks in the black powdercoat.
>
> These bars hang about 1.5" from the bottom of the body (rocker panel?) -
> I'm not real bright when it comes to autobody talk - I'm more into the
> mechanics (BSME).
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Eric S. - '94 Splash Ext. Cab 4x4, Slightly Modified
>
>
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> > From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
> > To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> > Subject: nerf bars
> > Date: Monday, November 10, 1997 7:18 AM
> >
> > Does anyone know of some nerf bars that mount close to the body of a
> > 96 Ranger Supercab ? I need to protect the rocker panels !!....

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