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fordtrucks80up-digest Saturday, November 1 1997 Volume 01 : Number 199



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In this issue:

Re: 2.3L Turbo.... Cheap! [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: Splash inquiry: [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: 1997 Ford F350 PowerStroke ["David J. Baldwin" ]
Re: $1700 for a transfer case?!? '95 F150 [Joe Maleski
Re: 1997 Ford F350 PowerStroke ["Ryan Penner" ]
Front Hubs [Blest25913 aol.com]
Oil Cooler for 1987 6.9 liter Diesel Ford Pick UP Truck F250 [Franck St-J]
Re: Front Hubs [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Price info: 82 F100, 84 F350 [Randy Dees ]
Re: Price info: 82 F100, 84 F350 [Keith Srb ]
Re: Hook placement [IamGoode aol.com]
Re: 2.3L Turbo.... Cheap! [BiggRanger aol.com]
In tank fuel pump prices? ["Beaman, James" ]
$1700 for a transfer case?!? '95 F150 [Glen Sholley ]
ADMIN: List of people who got stickers [Ken Payne ]
Re: 1997 Ford F350 PowerStroke ["Evan & Teresa" ]
ADMIN: Re: Spam? [Ken Payne ]
Torque Specs [Bill03bt aol.com]
Re: Ranger Front Hubs [Ducks4jim aol.com]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #198 [Bill Funk ]
A Last Word About the Speed Limit in Montana and Rangers ["Laura Dale"

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:55:50 EST
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: 2.3L Turbo.... Cheap!

On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 15:11:51 -0500 (EST) BiggRanger aol.com writes:
>I saw you letter and I had the same problem..
>My resulution was to turbo charge my 2.3 using a turbo from a '88
>Merkur
>XR4Ti
>There's a pic of it in my web page
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/biggranger/index.html
>Ford SVO also makes a nice cam for the 2.3
>If you have any questions contact me at BiggRanger AOL.COM

How much torqe and hp gain did you get installing the turbo?

Bob

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:55:50 EST
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: Splash inquiry:

On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:56:21 -0700 "S. HALL" writes:
>
> Hello,

> wanna know is: Is this 5-speed the infamous light-duty Mazda
> known for early failures? I'm hoping someone can tell me this

The Same.


> from the vin. I also wanted to know what people thought I should
> pay for this truck -it's going for 13,900 and as near as the book
> tells me its worth 15,300. Is this a reasonable price?
> Any input about this would be greatly appreciated -I'm
> fixing to sell my soul if I buy it (13,900 is HARD for me
> to cover!) I can say it was a BLAST to drive and I really
> was surprised to feel how much more fun it was then my 87
> truck. Thanks in advance,

Sounds a little steep for a 94 4 banger w/ 40K even if it is 4 wheel.
Try to get 12,9K or 13,4K if you can.


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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:31:45 -0600
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: 1997 Ford F350 PowerStroke

Jan Campbell wrote:
>
> Help: I am experiencing a loud hum borderlining a vibration in the
> 1500-2000 rpm range. This sounds, to me, as it may be coming from the
> transmission. Has anyone experienced this or could anyone shed any
> light on this, or is it normal?

Is this engine speed (RPM) related or vehicle speed related? That is,
if you shift down or up to another gear, but keep speed constant, does
the vibration go away?

If it does not go away, then it could be a driveline resonance problem.
This usually affects 4X4 trucks because of the high prop-shaft angles.
It is worse on short-wheelbase configurations because the angles are
even worse. The usual cause is stiff U-joints which resist moving with
prop-shaft rotation, which pushes the rear of the transmission around.
At certain speeds, the assemble vibrates and creates a droning sound.

Your truck is fairly new, and the U-joints should be fine--unless you
got a bad one from the factory. I'd take it in and have them check it
out.

By the way, how can you hear drivetrain noises over the engine? I
considered a Powerstroke, but didn't want to put up with the clatter.

- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:03:56 -0800
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: Re: $1700 for a transfer case?!? '95 F150

Try a junkyard/truck wrecking yard. The BW 13-56 isn't in that high of a
demand, you should be able to save several hundred bones.

I take it you are out of warranty? '95 seems awfully new to have something
like this go out. Of course I share your frustration, at 53K miles my air
conditioning compressor went out. It was not covered.

Joe

>My friendly (?) Ford dealer is quoting me a price of $1700 for a rebuilt
>
>Borg Warner 13-56 transfer case for my '95 F150.
>That doesn't include labor for taking it off
>or putting it back on. This seems pretty outrageous, doesn't it, or is
>it just the way it is? Anyway, I've started looking at some other shops
>
>to compare prices.....
>
>Anybody have a line on where I could get one more reasonably? I
>could get an automatic transmission rebuilt for that kind of money...
>
>Thanks for letting me rant...
>Steve
>Currently incredibly upset Ford owner...

************************************
Joe Maleski
Santa Clara, CA
1994 F-250HD SuperCab 4X4, 460/5-spd

mailto:jmaleski auspex.com

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:14:32 -0700
From: "Ryan Penner"
Subject: Re: 1997 Ford F350 PowerStroke

>By the way, how can you hear drivetrain noises over the engine? I
>considered a Powerstroke, but didn't want to put up with the clatter.
>
>--
>Best Regards,
>
>Dave Baldwin
>Dallas, TX



That is the best part about the Power Stroke!

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:49:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Blest25913 aol.com
Subject: Front Hubs

Is it possible to convert my automatic front hubs on my '96 Ranger to manual?
The automatic's had to be replaced at 44K, and they cost over $300 a piece!
And I only drove about 75 miles total in 4-wheel drive.
Thanks for any info you can give me,
Ron Trampe

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:27:36 -0500
From: Franck St-Juste
Subject: Oil Cooler for 1987 6.9 liter Diesel Ford Pick UP Truck F250

Hi, every one out there

I have a 1987 6.9l Diesel Ford Pick Up Truck F250. My oil cooler has got
an oil leakage. At Ford Dealers, the price of a new one is a bit high
and beyond my budget.

Does someone on the list have a used (mint condition) oil cooler to sell
or know of any aftermarket dealer which sells them new or used for a
reasonable price.

I'm located in Miami.

If anyone has a response, please, e-mail me directly at franck1 acn2.net
or franck ofnac.org or leave me a message at my voice mail at:
1 800 864 5000 PIN# 856 227 8210

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:33:40 +0000
From: jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Front Hubs

Yes it is definetly possible , in fact I am changing my 96 Ranger to
manuals . I'll write you back with Warn's part number .

JR RANGER


From: Blest25913 aol.com
To: fordtrucks80up-digest listservice.net
Reply-to: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Subject: Front Hubs
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 97 18:49:32 +0000

Is it possible to convert my automatic front hubs on my '96 Ranger to manual?
The automatic's had to be replaced at 44K, and they cost over $300 a piece!
And I only drove about 75 miles total in 4-wheel drive.
Thanks for any info you can give me,
Ron Trampe


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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 16:59:32 -0500
From: Randy Dees
Subject: Price info: 82 F100, 84 F350

My apologies if this has crossed the list before, but I never got it or any
replies. So now I re-send:

I am looking to find price information like what Edmund's publishes for a
couple of trucks. I have not found anything yet, so any replies or
pointers will be appreciated.

I am looking at an 82 F100, 150,000 miles, 302, 2wd, 4spd, reasonable body.

I am also trying to price an 84 F350 that a relative may be selling soon
in the Chicago area. 150,000 miles, 460, 4wd, 4 spd, good body, crew cab,
long bed, duallies. I probably can't afford it but I don't want it
undersold, either.

I haven't found anything that lists truck prices either online or at a
quick run through the local bookseller.

Thanks

- -----End of forwarded message-----

- --
Randy Dees | SCA: Talorgen nei Wrguist
ASI Systems Administration | a bard, formerly known as Myrddyn

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:12:22 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: Price info: 82 F100, 84 F350

Try http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.kbb.com This is the Kelley Blue Book Site.

Hope this helps!

At 04:59 PM 10/31/97 -0500, you wrote:
>My apologies if this has crossed the list before, but I never got it or any
>replies. So now I re-send:
>
>I am looking to find price information like what Edmund's publishes for a
>couple of trucks. I have not found anything yet, so any replies or
>pointers will be appreciated.
>
>I am looking at an 82 F100, 150,000 miles, 302, 2wd, 4spd, reasonable body.
>
>I am also trying to price an 84 F350 that a relative may be selling soon
>in the Chicago area. 150,000 miles, 460, 4wd, 4 spd, good body, crew cab,
>long bed, duallies. I probably can't afford it but I don't want it
>undersold, either.
>
>I haven't found anything that lists truck prices either online or at a
>quick run through the local bookseller.
>
>Thanks
>
>-----End of forwarded message-----
>
>--
> Randy Dees | SCA: Talorgen nei Wrguist
> ASI Systems Administration | a bard, formerly known as Myrddyn
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Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 16:32:49 -0500 (EST)
From: IamGoode aol.com
Subject: Re: Hook placement

I mounted 2 hooks evenly spaced between th eframe rails on a metal beam
channel iron is the shape. They stick out onder the bumper and can be
accessed through the valance without ripping it off. The hooks were 5$ ea and
the channel is 15$. That was the front on the back I use the reece hitch...
Sean

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 18:44:46 -0500 (EST)
From: BiggRanger aol.com
Subject: Re: 2.3L Turbo.... Cheap!

1) The turbo was out of a friends Merkur XR4Ti. (Same motor, just with a
turbo)
So it was pretty cheap!

2) There are 2 routes to take to install it.
A) Swap motors and get 175 HP with full boost
B) Keep your motor, Modify the waste gate and run with 6 Psi.

Both are pretty complex... "A" requires the computer and the same
modifications as "B"

"B" ( the route I chose) you need to make up spacers for the manifold
because it has to be mounted upside down and the ports will not be matched.
Exahust is simple, I got the parts from Murray's. No computer mod's were
needed. But I needed to do a lot of plumbing. I needed to tap an oil line off
the sending unit, and run an oil line in to the side of the oil pan, and make
up a new air inlet tube (Plumbing store). It took 2 days of afternoons
working on it, plus another day figuring out what my optimum boost pressure
was.

Total investment about $500.00

3) The performance increase... well it put a smile on my face! I don't have
any numbers, but it was pretty easy to feel the difference. When the turbo
spools up you can feel the extra power! It's enough to beat a lot of cars now
off the light. And passing on the freeway isn't scarry anymore.

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:28:46 -0600
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: In tank fuel pump prices?

The fuel pump in the front tank of my 1992 F250 is on its last legs and
needs to be replaced. The dealer quoted me a price of about $280 for a
new one. Does this jive with what others of you who have done this
replacement found? I think I remember someone mentioning they got one
for about $190. Bottom line: where can I get the best deal on this
part?

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 16:52:34 -0800
From: Glen Sholley
Subject: $1700 for a transfer case?!? '95 F150

That is some serious coin for just the case, but it's probably par for the
course for anything from a dealer. Try National Drivetrain Inc. in Chicago
at 1-800-507-4327, they have everything from differentials to transfer cases
to transmissions, both rebuilt and new. Consider getting the case and
replacing it yourself, I had a "79 Blazer that I had to replace the
transmission on, I got away with it for about $900 when it was all said and
done, that's counting renting a transmission jack on three seperate
occassions because the truck was too tall to fit in my garage and I had to
do the job by myself outside amongst the rain, etc...That thing had the cast
iron full time four-wheel-drive NP-203 transfer case, what a pain! Anyway,
enough whining, Boyce Equipment & Parts Co. also has driveline parts, but
the transfer cases may be limited to New Process. Their no. is
1-800-748-4269. Or you could give Performance Gear in Lumberton, MS a call
at (601)-796-2026 (sorry, I couldn't find a toll-free number for them). One
more source could be Hicks 4X4 in Pomona, CA., try 1-800-999-7674. Good
luck, hope this helps.

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:06:59 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: List of people who got stickers

At the bottom of this message is a list of all those who got static
window stickers. This does not include orders which I got out of
the PO box today. Those will get sent out tomorrow or Monday. This
list includes people who ordered stickers or donated in the past to
keep us alive. If I missed anyone or got the amount wrong let me
know. Please be honest about this, the list isn't broke but it does
run on a shoe-string budget. I only sent 1 sticker to donators as
I didn't keep names cross-referenced with amounts unless it was an
order (so I wouldn't play favorites with list members).

Also, I'd like to propose a slight price increase. Envelopes big
enough to mail the stickers without folding them cost us an
additional $26 and we spent over $15 in postage over the week.

This brings the total bill to:
Stickers (plus tax) $149.80
Postage $ 15.00
Envelopes (500, they'll last a while) $ 26.42
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$191.22

That comes to $1.91 per sticker not including posting for the
ones which haven't been sent yet.

This figure goes down tremendously with the next batch as the
envelopes are paid for and the screen layout costs are covered.
I'm looking at roughly $1.00 profit per sticker, with all money
made going towards list expenses. Here's the increase I would
like to propose:

1 sticker $ 3.50
2 stickers $ 6.75
3 stickers $10.00
4 or more $ 3.00 each

These prices take into account postage. Let me know what you think.
As always, I like to keep the money matters in the open. I'm due
to post another full accounting of our expenses, donations, sticker
orders and advertiser income (not a large amount).

Ken
Administrator,
Ford Truck Enthusiasts

Here's the list in no particular order:
Clay Hughes 2
Robert Johnson 1
Christian Thompson 2
Tom Nickolson 2
Brian Milbrandt 2
Azie Magnusson 1
Fred Myers 2
Eric Kulig 1
Robert Smallwood 1
Gary Tracyzk 1
Tony Boykin 2
Steve Delanty 3
Thomas Stoner 1
John Niolon 1
Jon Purut 2
John & Dorothy Fleming 1
Woody Friesen 1
Don Lewis 1
Randy Collins 1
DC Beaty 1
Michael Schwall 1
Nathan Iven 1
Joseph Mead 2
George Wheeler 5
Michael Ruth 3
Dale Goodwin 3
Stu Varner 1
J Perkins 1
John Strauss 1
Jim Strigas 1
Lee Hardy 1
Halvar Forsberg 1
Paul Gayda 1
David Reynolds 1

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:52:01 -0800
From: "Evan & Teresa"
Subject: Re: 1997 Ford F350 PowerStroke

i have the same problem with my 88 7.3 5 speed the engine hums at 1700 rpm
it doesn't seem to matter if i am driving or in nuetral or towing a trailer
i have not been able to find out what its causing it i am concerned because
if it is the engine it is not very good just my .02 evan
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jan Campbell
To: fordtrucks80up-digest listservice.net

Date: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 3:40 PM
Subject: 1997 Ford F350 PowerStroke


>Help: I am experiencing a loud hum borderlining a vibration in the
>1500-2000 rpm range. This sounds, to me, as it may be coming from the
>transmission. Has anyone experienced this or could anyone shed any
>light on this, or is it normal?
>
>Thanks to all for any input.
>
>Matt Campbell
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>

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:29:15 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Re: Spam?

- -snip-
>
>Ken (Payne, not the spammer), has this guy been lifting addresses off of
>the list? I know that you don't give out list member's addresses, so that
>is my assumption. Has anyone else been the victim of this guys stuff?
>

Yes, the address (I don't know if it happened to more than one person)
came off the list. Like you stated, I don't give out the addresses.
Heck, I don't even look at them except when I do a member count or
when I do administrative tasks that require it. However it is a fairly
simple matter to copy email addresses from people who post if you're subscribed. The individual really didn't know he was doing anything
wrong. I've sent him an email about this matter and I've been assured
it won't happen again. I consider it forgotten at this point.

I'm planning on making some additions to our FAQ which will address
this issue and others in the near future. I would like to state to
everyone here that you do not have to worry about posting to the list.
This was an isolated occurrence. It hasn't happened before and
hopefully the new FAQ will prevent it from happening again.

And remember, this individual really didn't know it was improper. I
would have considered it intentional malice if he had gone through
the archives for addresses and spammed everyone. I've informed him
how we have several vendors who participate on the lists as members,
not vendors. These people have had a lot of success by approaching
members (privately) when the member asks a question which can be
answered by the vendor.

Case in point: there's a member who has 4 barns of 40's & 50's Ford
trucks and parts. Whenever someone asks about locating a part he
will privately email them if he has the part. I think this is a proper
and helpful way that vendors get involved --- everyone benefits.

Am I being too soft? Perhaps. But I feel its best to err on the
side of caution. I've learned from Unix administrator friends a
very important lesson: most users don't know their doing anything
wrong and change when they find out they are.

Ken
Admin

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:35:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Bill03bt aol.com
Subject: Torque Specs

I've been reading this discussion with interest.
Torque standards are defined using threads lubricated with "a light coating "
of 10w oil. There are exceptions to this in certain special applications, so
read the manual for your specific circumstances.
I have always just used motor oil on the bolts and have had no problems, like
a lot of you I'm sure.
I do, however use Never-Seize on exhaust manifold bolts/studs/nuts. This is
primarily for the hi-temp protection. One word of advice however, a little
goes a long way and more is not better. If you really slather the stuff on,
it WILL allow the fasteners to loosen up as it is much thicker than oil and
will not flow out of the threads easily.
Enough of that, but I would like to toss out a new related topic.
What types of torque wrenches do/have you used? Any preferences, etc. I did a
lot of research into this several years ago at work so feel free to email me
privately with specific questions. This might be a topic of interest to the
group though.

Bil03bt aol.com
96 Ranger Supercab 3.0

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:59:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Ducks4jim aol.com
Subject: Re: Ranger Front Hubs

I have seen several f150''s of '96 vintage with aftermarket manual hubs. They
might be available for the Ranger as well. I've done other vehicles and
they're not hard to install, providing you don't have trouble rebuilding 4WD
hubs.

I'm not sure if Ford modified their hub in connection with the "push
button" 4WD on the Ranger. Which, by the way, isn't worth a darn in cold
temperature applications.

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:54:09 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #198

> From: Croth2 aol.com
> Subject: 300I6 mileage
>
> I need some help in figuring out why my mileage is so bad in my 87
> F-150. I
> am currently getting 9.5 mpg, doesnt seem right for a 300 inline
> six. I
> should at least be getting around 15 or higher. I'm thinking it might
> be the
> O2 sensor, but could that really cause my mileage to be that low? any
>
> suggestions?
> - ---->Tim

This is a reply not just to Tim, but to the group in general...
I see a lot of posts like this. They run in the general form of:
"I'm having -X- problem. What's wrong?"
It would help us a *LOT* if some details were given. In this case, what
has been done to solve the problem? Is asking the question here the only
action taken? Have the plugs been checked? How about a compression
reading? Is the air filter filtering the air, or blocking it? Is there a
potato(e) in the exhaust? Did this problem occur just after you tried to
drive through five feet of water, or did it come on slowly? Have you
been trying to tow a 45' fifth wheel trailer?
In other words, what have you done already to find the problem? In this
case, the most basic thing to do would be a good tune-up. A tune-up will
point to other things that could be wrong. The plugs, for example, could
show very uneven cylinder conditions, or an extremely rich or oily
condition. The air filter could be so clogged it's more of a closed
window than a filter. The exhause could be damaged, pinched off so that
back pressure is very high.
Without this kind of info, we see answers that are nothing more than
wild guesses, and most of them will not help at all.

This is not meant to be a flame, but rather to show that a more complete
description of not only the problem, but also actions already taken to
solve the problem or pinpoint the solution will help immensly.

Bill Funk

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:40:54 -0800
From: "Laura Dale"
Subject: A Last Word About the Speed Limit in Montana and Rangers

Thank you. I too find this to be an interesting diversion to the technical
discussion; and after having read all the messages have this to say:

1. We live in California but have driven all over the U.S.
2. My husband couldn't wait to drive in Montana - the land of no speed
limit.
3. We took a recent trip there in our Dodge Stealth ES (we do own a 1989
Ford
F-250 7.3 Liter Diesel which qualifies us to be on this list...).
4. He was having a blast acting like a maniac behind the wheel to which I....


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