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fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, October 16 1997 Volume 01 : Number 168



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In this issue:

Re: OIL (Synthetic + Rant) [David Hertzberg ]
Re: 1988 F-150 has miss [Rich Lobrovich ]
carb/man FOR SALE [james oxley ]
Ford Ranger (97) Noise Problem Identified ["Robert Stinnett ]
Re: 1997 Ford Ranger XLT [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: How much is a ??? worth? [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: Wheel price? ["Jerry Dean" ]
Re: Wheel price? [Todd Metzger ]
Drilling Holes in Bumper [Tony Rio ]
Drilling Holes in Bumper [Tony Rio ]
Re: OIL (Synthetic + Rant) [Ken Payne ]
Re: Drilling the front bumper [James Forrest ]
Exhaust systems ["Eric Schimmelmann"]
F150 4.9 I-6 HAS MIS [Timothy P Fagrey ]
Re: 1988 F-150 has miss ["Jason Johnston" ]

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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 97 05:34:33 PDT
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: Re: OIL (Synthetic + Rant)

Dave R.: I take it you don't believe in oil additives;-). In the interests of
exchanging ideas and insights and furthering the lists' knowledge about what
clearly is a controvesial and emotionally-charged topic, I solicit your comments
and observations on the following: I am by no means defending additives, of which
I too--knowing something about how engines work--am generally skeptical. But I
have tried a product called Tribotech, and the fact is that it did actually improve
my mileage by about 10 to 15 percent in my diesel (I miswrote earlier when I
noted I experienced a 7 percent increase in mileage). I measured the mileage
improvement over a period of about 5 weeks. I made no changes in my driving
habits, and purchased my fuel at the same station. You clearly are quite
knowledgable and I would appreciate your insights; what could this stuff have
done to lead to the improved mileage? The manufacturers claim the product's secret
and patented ingredients actually "bind to the metal surfaces" in the engine in a
unique way and offer a money back guarantee if there is no discernable improvement
in mileage, etc. (I used some in our Toyota Tercel (EFI)--in whose transaxle
I do, incidentally, use synthetic gear oil--and got no improvement whatsoever,
asked for and received my money back.)

A credible and well-respected mechanic in the Washington DC area--a fellow named
Pat Goss--who hosts a weekend radio show and occassional television series, runs
workshops for the public, etc.,--also has endorsed it. This is what he says he
did: He added the product during his oil change, ran the car for about 100 miles.
Then drained out all the oil and put on a new filter. He then drove the car for 30
minutes at highway speeds with the AC on, and it ran fine, he says. He sells the
product in his shop--but does not sell any of the other additives (Slick50, etc)
nor does he endorse any of these other products. I carry no brief for Mr. Goss,
but I find his experiement compelling. At the same time, will ANY engine from
which the oil has been drained and on which a new filter has been placed run for 30
minutes with just the residual oil remaining inside? (A friend of mine who builds
dragsters says yes.) I would appreciate your comments.

Your explication of synthetics was interesting and informative. Yet you do not
indicate the frequency of oil changes with synthetics. What would your
recommendation be?


David H.

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 21:08:28
From: Rich Lobrovich
Subject: Re: 1988 F-150 has miss

I have the same problem with no resolve after replacing many of the same parts.
I think it might be in the chip ???
I replaced the parts as a Major tune up not just a replace and see what happens
My 1988 has 196K miles and runs with a mis at lower RPM's 800-1200
I have lived with this problem since 1990 85K miles
Oh well the truck still runs great other wise
Rich Lob
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At 07:56 PM 10/15/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I need some help trouble shooting my F-150 with the 4.9 I-6 engine. The
>truck has 186,000 miles
>and it has had a stumble or miss for the last 110,000 miles. The miss is
>worse in damp or cold weather
> but it is present all most all of the time. Parts I have replaced:
>EGR VALVE, FUEL FILTER, OXYGEN SENSOR,
> EGR VALVE P0SITION SENSOR, THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR, COIL, PLUG WIRES,
>DIST. CAP, IGNITION MODULE, PIP SENSOR,EEC-IV MODULE, THERMOSTAT. I
>have checked the MAP sensor according to
> the HAYNES manual, it was ok. The fuel pressure is in spec at idle and
>at higher RPM. I have looked for
>a vacuum leak and can't find one. A compression check seemed to
>indicate all was well inside the
>engine. The miss occurs between 1500 and 2000 RPM and will go away if I
>increase the throttle. The fuel
>injectors have only been cleaned with gas additive cleaners, never at a
>garage. I drove with a vacuum gage connected for a while and it behaved
>as you would expect except during a steady cruise (where the miss occurs)
>it seemed to have a slight vibration. This truck has duel tanks, and it
>does not matter which one is used.
>Any and all help is greatly appreciated. terry.parker juno.com
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:25:41 -0700
From: james oxley
Subject: carb/man FOR SALE

Howdy

I have a Holly, 600 CFM, vac sec w/electric choke and 351W performer
manifold for sale. Looking for 210$ for the pair. Very little use.

OX

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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:08:48 EDT
From: "Robert Stinnett TSO8352 - HOMENODE"
Subject: Ford Ranger (97) Noise Problem Identified

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Hey all - Thought I'd update you on the "noise" I reported a day or two
ago. I took it into the dealer and he informed me that it was a normal noise
and most likely the one I was hearing was the fuel injectors. Sure enough,
he showed me some of the other Rangers on the lot and I heard the same noise
from all of them.

In the three weeks I've had this Ranger I've racked up almost 1,300 miles on
it! For the first week or so I had a serious case of "cruise-itis" :-)
Better start scheduling that first oil change any time now :)

Looking forward to the list...

Robert

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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:38:53 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: 1997 Ford Ranger XLT

On Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:24:59, -0500 KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J
TENNEY) writes:
>Robert,
>
>Congrats on your new truck! I had a '95 with the 4 and just bought a
>'98 (new front end and suspension) reg cab shortbox with the 4.0L V6
>and a sitck. Mine is Black, too. Everyone warned me about how hard
>it is to keep clean, but I love the truck anyway.
>
>Josh
>KNBD87D prodigy.com

I didnt know it was a Reg cab SB.... ...bet that thing will haul butt
with
some mods on it. :)

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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:38:53 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: How much is a ??? worth?

On Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:34:27 -0500 Bradley and Debbie Miller
writes:
>I've got a 1995 Ford Ranger Splash with about 45K miles on it and a
>4.0L
>and 5 speed . . . cruise, AC . . . etc... About what is one of
>those
>worth? I was just given an outrageous $8,000 value for the truck.
>NADA/bank says it should be about $10,000 or so.
>
>Anyone else???????
>
>Thanks!


Go to www.kbb.com and check the value of your truck. I think they said
my
95 ext cab 4 banger with with almost no options was worth $8500 and that
was at 60K miles.

I would say your bank is closer to the value.

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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:04:17 -0400
From: "Jerry Dean"
Subject: Re: Wheel price?

I have a set to sell too. I have the 5 teardrop aluminum rims from Ford.
I want to sell them because they are just collecting dust right now in
storage. They have 31x10.50x15 mud terrain tires mounted on them and are
only 4 months old. Bought them for last winter, but we never had any snow.
Anyone interested or know of anyone looking?

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From: Luke Wells
To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 1997 12:17 AM
Subject: Wheel price?



>I was wanting to get new wheels and tires, but I need to sell my old
>ones first. I have a 96 Ranger with 15" chrome stock rims. I was wanting
>to know a good prices if I sold the rims with the tires. Also the
>centercap is also chrome.
>
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:21:38 +0000
From: Todd Metzger
Subject: Re: Wheel price?

Jerry Dean wrote:

> I have a set to sell too. I have the 5 teardrop aluminum rims from Ford.
> I want to sell them because they are just collecting dust right now in
> storage. They have 31x10.50x15 mud terrain tires mounted on them and are
> only 4 months old. Bought them for last winter, but we never had any snow.
> Anyone interested or know of anyone looking?

Jerry,
How much are you asking for the wheels and tires? Also, how many if any miles
are on the tires? Finally, what shape are the wheels in? Thanks.

Todd Metzger
tmetz umr.edu

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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:29:51 -0600
From: Tony Rio
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