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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:50:24 -0600 (MDT)
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fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, October 16 1997 Volume 01 : Number 167



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In this issue:

Dirty trucks [Tony Rio ]
Ford F-350 Powerstroke [Jan Campbell ]
Re: Ford F-350 Powerstroke [Todd Metzger ]
Re: OIL (Synthetic + Rant) ["David J. Baldwin" ]
Re: OIL ["S.N." ]
RE: How much is a ??? worth? [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
re: E4OD automatic transmission [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
RE: Drilling the front bumper [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: Robert 7.3 cutting off ["Evan & Teresa" ]
Re: OIL [Jordan ]
squeaking serpentine belt [Gary Snook ]
Re: electrical problem? [Filip M Gieszczykiewicz ]
[none] [Gary Snook ]
1988 F-150 has miss [terry.parker juno.com (Terry D Parker)]
Re: 1988 F-150 has miss ["Ryan Penner" ]
Re: Drilling the front bumper [Bob ]
Synthetic Oil [MadPoodle aol.com]

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 16:46:06 -0600
From: Tony Rio
Subject: Dirty trucks

KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY) wrote:

>I had a '95 with the 4 and just bought a
>'98 (new front end and suspension) reg cab shortbox with the 4.0L V6
>and a sitck. Mine is Black, too. Everyone warned me about how hard
>it is to keep clean, but I love the truck anyway.

My F150 is raven black, and I got the same flack about keeping it clean.
Now I always try to keep mine running well, and i love the truck, BUT IT'S
A TRUCK! I say, the dirtier, the better!!! :-P I always tell my friends that if I
wanted a truck that I had to baby, I would have gotten the Chevy......

Tony

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:00:40 -0400
From: Jan Campbell
Subject: Ford F-350 Powerstroke

Help: Would anyone have the website for the Ford TSBs?
Is there also a site for Ford optional parts? I.E. mudflaps, etc.
Thanks,
Matt Campbell

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:11:23 +0000
From: Todd Metzger
Subject: Re: Ford F-350 Powerstroke

Jan Campbell wrote:

> Help: Would anyone have the website for the Ford TSBs?
> Is there also a site for Ford optional parts? I.E. mudflaps, etc.
> Thanks,
> Matt Campbell

Matt,
Go to my homepage and go to my list of links towards the bottom of the
page. There are two links for recalls and TSBs, they should have whatever
you are looking for.
My page is...
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.umr.edu/~tmetz/car.htm

Todd Metzger
tmetz umr.edu

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:16:49 -0500
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: OIL (Synthetic + Rant)

Dave Resch wrote:
>
> The polymer molecules are what allow true multi-grade motor oil, which acts
> like thin (low viscosity) oil at cooler temperatures and thick (high
> viscosity) oil at warmer temps. The oil's actual viscosity is usually the
> lower of the two numbers (10 in 10W40). The bigger the multi-grade range
> (i.e., 30 points or more, such as 10W40 or 20W50), the less stable the
> polymer molecules are under engine operating conditions and the more prone
> they are to rapid breakdown.

Thank you for clarifying the oil thing. I would like to add that people
are inclined to think that a multi-grade oil actually increases in
viscosity with increasing temperature. It does not. Oils actually
decrease in viscosity with increasing temperature, and it is the polymer
additives which reduce this effect to the point where 10W50 is the same
viscosity as SAE10 at low temp, but reduces only to the viscosity of
SAE50 at operating temp. That is, the rate of change of viscosity of
multi-viscosity oils with respect to temperature is less than that of a
single viscosity oil, but that change is still inversely proportional to
temperature.

Of course if you leave your oil in your engine until it turns to sludge,
you might actually get the viscosity to increase! :^)

- --
Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:36:34 -0500
From: "S.N."
Subject: Re: OIL

At 01:54 PM 10/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I was wondering what you guys think of oil treatments and synthetics.
>Do you think I should put a oil treatment in my 4.0 v6 or a full
>synthetic oil, or both, or neither. If you think it is a good idea
>which brands should I use.

I use synthetics. My question is about which brands everyone uses. I use
Mobil 1 because it has been around forever. What about the new players in
the synthetic field? Seems like in the last few years Valvoline,
Valvoline, Castrol, Quaker State, etc. have all jumped on the band wagon.
I would really love for some independent test facility to come up with some
innovative ways of tearing these oils apart and giving an unbiased opinion
on which ones work and which ones don't.

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:47:55, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: RE: How much is a ??? worth?

Brad,

Did you get the price from a dealer or someone off the street? $10K
is a good retail price, but $8K for trade in isn't bad either. A
dealership does have to make some profit to stay in business.

Josh

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:53:07, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: E4OD automatic transmission

If I were you, I would NOT tow in overdrive. Sure it runs at a
higher RPM, but 9000# is a lot of weight to be towing in overdrive.
My dad had the same E4OD in his van towing a 4000# snowmobile trailer
and he never used OD. Also, I heard that E4OD's had some problems at
a early stage in development. Check to see if your tranny is old
enough for problems (I doubt it though).
Josh

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 20:00:56, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: RE: Drilling the front bumper
>
Tony,

I had a Ranger and I mounted fog light UNDER the bumper. There are
holes in the bottom in which the air deflecter bolts onto. If you
place the bolt for the fog light in place of the other bolt....kazaam-
you don't need to drill holes. Another option is to buy a
grille
> guard and mount the lights on that. I had one of those too. Made by
Westin. Worked slick.

Josh

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:35:57 -0700
From: "Evan & Teresa"
Subject: Re: Robert 7.3 cutting off

this problem may also indicate a lack of
fuel system lubrication in canada
diesel does not have sulphur and unless you put in an additive just my .02
worth evan

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From: WClou60583 aol.com
To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 1997 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Robert 7.3 cutting off



>Robert,
>
>I had a 88 F-250 It was cutting off when ever I slowed down to a Idle or
>braking for a stop, It ended up my injection pump was going bad. The dealer
>replaced it under warranty. I had the (Ford ESP warranty) The dealer had no
>Idea what was the cause I had to tell them what was bad, I was a diesel
> mech
>before I started driving big rigs ,so I knew what was going on when the
truck
>started stalling.
>Have your injector pump checked.
>GOOD LUCK!
>Bill
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:58:55 -0500
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: OIL....


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