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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 03:50:30 -0600 (MDT)
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fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, October 14 1997 Volume 01 : Number 162



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In this issue:

Ouch [Ernie Bonsell ]
Tailgate Weight ratings? [Andrew T Vincitore ]
RE: rusted out v8 oil pan [Sean Winters ]
RE: electical questions / supercharger stuff.... ["Stephen M. Brown"
Re: The 99 F-250,350,450 and 550 [BigDogF250 aol.com]
Re: The 99 F-250,350,450 and 550 [John Yee ]
fordtrucks80up-digest [DantzlerRC aol.com]
ADMIN: Our history is now on line [Ken Payne ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest [Tuobay aol.com]
Oils for PowerStroke [cfoye BayNetworks.COM (Chris Foye)]
Manuals [rsmall isgroup.net (Robert Smallwood)]
Re: 99 F-250,350,450 and 550? answers [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TE]
Re: Tailgate Weight ratings? [john.doe erols.com]
4 Cyl Ranger [Gary Snook ]
Re: suspension lift? [Jason Lester ]
Late 4 speed Man. [abbott ]
Explorer gear ratios [Todd Metzger ]
Re: electrical problem? ["Keith L. Jones" ]
Re:electical questions / supercharger stuff.... ["warren"
Re: Anti sway bars [Carl Warren Levin ]

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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:18:52 -0400
From: Ernie Bonsell
Subject: Ouch

In reading various news groups over the past few months, I've seen the
complaint that Ford's 5.4L is underpowered more than once. (I own a Ford
Expedition with the 5.4L and 3.73 LSD and have plenty of power, but I
only get 11 MPG mileage). I assume that Ford has smart engineers and
marketing people, so there must be a good reasons for them going with
the 5.4L instead of upping Chevy's 5.7L to 5.8L or more. Does anyone
out there have some insight into Ford's design decision?

Thanks,
Ernie

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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:01:07 -0400
From: Andrew T Vincitore
Subject: Tailgate Weight ratings?

On my 92 f-250 I am concerned about the capacity of the tailgate when ope=
n
and suspended on the cables. I can't find any referance as to the safe
capacity of it. I load and unload pianos using a ramp and the combined
weight of piano,equipment and manpower can get high. Does anybody know
where I can find this out ?

Thanks,

Andrew

(Glad we didn't go with Truck Suck?.... ) =

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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:36:14 -0500
From: Sean Winters
Subject: RE: rusted out v8 oil pan

Just did this same thing this weekend on a 4.9 six so I don't know how
much of it you can apply.

1. Loosen motor and transmission mounts
2. Remove (a lot of) oil pan bolts and set oil pan on cross member
3. Remove pick-up tube bolts from oil pump
4. Remove oil pan and (disconnected) pick up tube at the same time
5. You know what to do from there

Sean Winters
swinters pritchettnet.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: PhilDyson aol.com [SMTP:PhilDyson aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 1997 1:17 PM
> To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: Re: rusted out v8 oil pan
>
>
>
> tuscola mail.tds.net (TUSCOLA) wrote:
>
> > I have a 88, 150 4wd with a 302 engine that has an oil pan that has
> rusted
> >out. While checking on a leak I removed a piece of rust and a hole
> the size
> > of a pencil opened up on the pan. I epoxyed it and fixed it put
> found out
> > that the hole drivers side of the pan is got a bunch of pin holes
> and not
> > emoug good metal to get the epoxy to hold on to.
> >
> > Does any body know if I can change the pan with out pulling the
> engine? I'm
> >hoping that I could drop the cross over pipe, raise the engine engine
> > abit
> >and get enough clearance to get the pan out. Anyone done this?
>
> I've done it on an 82 5.8 and again on 86 F150 5.8. I had to lift
> the
>
engine several inches to get enough clearance to slide the pan between
> the
> frame-saddle and the oil pump. Also the limited space available made
> it hard
> to scrape away all the old gasket material to get a good seal on the
> new pan
> but not impossible.
> Now would be a good time to check the condition of main bearings
> and
> replace the rear crank seal (if needed). I've never heard of oil pans
> rusting out, they usually coat themselves with oil. Could be caused
> by road
> salt I guess.
> Good luck,
> Phil
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:14:35 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Brown"
Subject: RE: electical questions / supercharger stuff....

> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:47:05 -0400
> From: Geoffrey Hoffman

> Subject: electical questions / supercharger stuff....
> well, i have been putting in the super charger over break, but i have
some
> scattered questions for anyone, or prefereably anyone who has put in a
> vortech. anyway, this is a 93 explorer, same thing as a ranger as far as
> installation...
> anyway, i need to put an additional fule pump thing in line with the
> filter, and i need to know what to hook it up to. for the real fuel
pump,
> is it powered any time the ignition is on, or only when the engine is
> running? anyone know how i could tie into that line, or another line
that
> behaves the same? i hooked it up when the car was on, but not running
and
> it made all kinds of noise, and i would prefer to not have that...

in-line fuel pumps are known for being very noisy. I don't think there is
much you can do about it. You basically have to wire it so it gets juice
with the IGNITION ON (sounds like the way you had it was right).

>
> anyway, anyone know about this, or what did people do to hook this up?

Luckily, I didn't need one for my s/c (Kenne Bell 6.5psi on my Bronco).

>
> some more general questions? what is this fule pump needed for, and
there
> is some "fule managment unit" that is hooked in line with the fule return
> line to the tank, and what does that do?

The in-line unit just boosts fuel pressure so you deliver more fuel under
boost (boost gives more air, and you need more fuel to match). Again,
in-lines are notoriously NOISY!

That little FMU dude is a valve which closes off the fuel return line under
supercharger boost. That way, if you're in boost, the fuel pressure raises
(mine goes up to about 80-85 psi under full 6.5 psi boost). Normally fuel
is pumped to the engine & some is returned to the tank constantly. IF the
FMU closes off, it can't get back to the tank & pressure builds
immediately. It's a must for any aftermarket supercharged car that doesn't
have a custom computer burned and an adjustable fuel pressure regulator.
The FMU (fuel management unit) is kinda a quick fix, but it works well.

Regarding your in-line pump: my suggestion (after listening to the guys at
the local speed shop) is to dump the in-line unit and replace the in-tank
unit with a bigger in tank pump. (More work, more $$$). Other option:
call Kenne Bell at 909-641-0985 and tell them your situation & ask about
their BOOST-A-PUMP. It might save you some cash & labor. It boosts the
voltage to your stock fuel pump (overdrives it, but nothing drastic --- and
yes, they do claim that it will in no way limit the life of your fuel
pump...at least no more than the short life fuel pumps have anyway) to get
more fuel out under boost.

My $.02
steve

>
> thanks for your time.
>
> - --
> Geoffrey Hoffman gch2 cornell.edu
> Cornell University http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pobox.com/~hoffy
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:37:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: BigDogF250 aol.com
Subject: Re: The 99 F-250,350,450 and 550

450? 550? whered these come from? are they 1 1/2 ton & 2 ton trucks? same
body?
im clueless.
matt

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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:59:12 -0700
From: John Yee
Subject: Re: The 99 F-250,350,450 and 550

At 06:37 PM 10/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>450? 550? whered these come from? are they 1 1/2 ton & 2 ton trucks? same
>body?
>im clueless.

Here some discussion back from awhile ago.

The F450/550 looks like it's Fords response to the heavier
5th wheel trailers that are available, that exceed the capacity of
the F350. If it's anything like like the Super Duty Class A
Motor Home chassis' that have the same GVW, then I'm guessing the GCWR
is in the 25,000+ lb ballpark.

It looks like there's money to be made between the F350 and
the Western Flyer type tow vehicle :-).

- -john


From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:02:54, -0500
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Subject: 1999 F-250 HD+ specs....


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