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fordtrucks80up-digest Saturday, October 11 1997 Volume 01 : Number 158



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In this issue:

Gasoline odor when cold ["J. Scott Gaines" ]
ADMIN: Missing 155 and 156 digests [Ken Payne ]
Re: Trans Command [Jim Lujan ]
OUCH ["Stephen M. Brown" ]
Re: OUCH [Ken Payne ]
Re: OUCH [Thom Cheney ]
ADMIN: Does anyone have digests 155 or 156 [Ken Payne
need more power! [JOUZA1 aol.com]
Four Speed Trans. [abbott ]
fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #155 [zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski)]
F-250 Build time?? [JJ/RAE ]
The 99 F-250,350,450 and 550 [FOMOCONUT aol.com]
Overheating! [burl webtv.net (billy casper)]
Re: Overheating! [zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski)]
Re: Overheating! [burl webtv.net (billy casper)]

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 23:54:08 -0400
From: "J. Scott Gaines"
Subject: Gasoline odor when cold

HELP!

Now that the mornings are getting cooler, I have noticed a strong gasoline
odor coming from my '89 Bronco II during the first few minutes of driving
when it's cool (below 70 - this is cool for mid-Florida) outside. It seems
to go away once she's warmed up, but it's pretty strong for a while.

My only thought was a bad vapor cannister - does anyone know if this could
cause the smell. I believe this model has an electric fuel pump, or I would
suspect a bad mechanical one.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

J. Scott Gaines

1989 Bronco II 4WD 103,000 miles.

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:47:48 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Missing 155 and 156 digests

Esosoft's mail server suffered a drive crash yesterday
and their system went down for a couple of hours while
they replaced the drive. Two digests to this list
were not delivered as a result of this. I've contacted
them about it and hopefully they'll be able to send
them out.

- -Ken

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:15:18 -0600
From: Jim Lujan
Subject: Re: Trans Command

To my knowledge the TransCommand does *not* change the shift points. What
it does do is alter the input for the clutch pressure. Consequently, the
pressure increases when the tranny does shift under load. The result
is a quicker (firmer) shift. Take a look at the following info at
Diesel Injection Services (great prices BTW).

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dieselpage.com/transcmd.htm

-Jim-

'97 F-350 PS 4x4 CCab LB (Banks Stage II enhanced)

>Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:09:21 -0400
>From: "Mike Jones"
>Subject: Trans Command
>
>Recently, I've seen postings related to how well the Trans Command (and the
>other one on the market, which name escapes me) works. This really piqued
>my interest, since I HATE the way my Expedition (5.4L w/E40D) shifts at
>full throttle. One question: Does the Trans Command (or the other one)
>raise the full-throttle shift points? As it is now, full-throttle shifts
>are at 4500 rpms. Silly. That wonderful OHC engine, and it shifts like a
>clapped out '77 LTD.
>
>Thanks, Mike J.
>

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 12:05:08 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Brown"
Subject: OUCH

Well, I just rode in a 5.7 vortec C***Y tow truck (don't ask me why...I am
still smokin' mad at a certain person who cut me off).
Anyway...That vortec engine is awesome. Ford has missed out with its OHC
4.6 and 5.4. Those c***y's are putting out TONS of low end hp and torque,
and the new Fords are like twinkie eatin', ballet shoe wearin', tortoise
chasin' excuses for trucks at low RPM.
The vortec 454 is supposed to be even MORE powerful. I wish FORD had put a
little more thought into what people use trucks for. Plus the C***Y
transmission (700-R4, i think) has a much better reputation in work truck
circles than the E4OD.
Oh well, I'll just stick with the OLD SCHOOL 5.8 Bronco til FORD gets its
act together. Still haven't seen the stats on the V-10 OHC. Can't imagine
that it's gonna get good mileage, even if it does put some decent low end
torque down.
Geez. It used to be that you could get good performance outta the FORD
motors & with some work, get awesome performance (and end up with a cost
similar to a stock C***Y), but now you pay just as much (sometimes more)
and get less.
It hurts. I love my truck. Even if it looks like its meeting with a C***Y
corsica wasn't mutually beneficial.

I'm gonna write a letter.

steve

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 15:46:17 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: OUCH

At 12:05 PM 10/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Well, I just rode in a 5.7 vortec C***Y tow truck (don't ask me why...I am
>still smokin' mad at a certain person who cut me off).
>Anyway...That vortec engine is awesome. Ford has missed out with its OHC
>4.6 and 5.4. Those c***y's are putting out TONS of low end hp and torque,
>and the new Fords are like twinkie eatin', ballet shoe wearin', tortoise
>chasin' excuses for trucks at low RPM.
>The vortec 454 is supposed to be even MORE powerful. I wish FORD had put a
>little more thought into what people use trucks for. Plus the C***Y
>transmission (700-R4, i think) has a much better reputation in work truck
>circles than the E4OD.
>Oh well, I'll just stick with the OLD SCHOOL 5.8 Bronco til FORD gets its
>act together. Still haven't seen the stats on the V-10 OHC. Can't imagine
>that it's gonna get good mileage, even if it does put some decent low end
>torque down.
>Geez. It used to be that you could get good performance outta the FORD
>motors & with some work, get awesome performance (and end up with a cost
>similar to a stock C***Y), but now you pay just as much (sometimes more)
>and get less.
>It hurts. I love my truck. Even if it looks like its meeting with a C***Y
>corsica wasn't mutually beneficial.
>
>I'm gonna write a letter.
>
>steve

Some personal observations....

While Ch*vy does seem to put out more HP in some of their
stock engines the vehicles are poorly put together overall.
Stock C*maros generally beat stock Mustangs, but they also
have a reputation for becoming rattle cages within a year.

Everytime I get into a Ch*vy (I try to avoid it!) or look
under the hood I always walk away with one thought:

GM has cornered the market on cheap fasteners and workers
who show up drunk....

Pull away interior door panels are a GM speciality. Along
with missing weld points.

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 13:11:05 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: OUCH

>
> Some personal observations....
>
> While Ch*vy does seem to put out more HP in some of their
> stock engines the vehicles are poorly put together overall.
> Stock C*maros generally beat stock Mustangs, but they also
> have a reputation for becoming rattle cages within a year.
>
> Everytime I get into a Ch*vy (I try to avoid it!) or look
> under the hood I always walk away with one thought:
>
> GM has cornered the market on cheap fasteners and workers
> who show up drunk....
>
> Pull away interior door panels are a GM speciality. Along
> with missing weld points.

Well put. I am absolutely not brand loyal. I buy the best brand for
my money. I too considered the Ch*vy because of the 190 hp vortec
motor. I was not impressed with the build quality or even the design
of the truck. My last Ch*v had problems ON THE WAY HOME FROM BUYING
IT AT THE DEALER!!!! not only that, it took 3 trips back to fix it.
I bought Hondas & Toyotas for the next 3 vehicles I purchased!!!!!

Crossing my fingers til they are Ford Blue,

TC

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:44:50 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Does anyone have digests 155 or 156

If you go either of these two, please forward a copy to
me for our archives. The server crashed and I didn't
get copies (they're distributed in alphabetical order).

kpayne mindspring.com

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:35:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: JOUZA1 aol.com
Subject: need more power!

I am a 18 year old college student with a 93 Ranger. It has the 4.0
and 5 speed trans. I am looking for some power upgrades in the 300-400
dollar range. They have to be boltons. Somthing local mechanics can put on
or easier. I already have a K&N and Hypertech Power Module. I am saving to
put true duals on. Other than those few options what else could I purchase?
I am looking for a total of around 300 horspower when all done. Thanks for
all your time to those who reply.


Sincerly
Josh Jouza

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 15:29:50 -0700
From: abbott
Subject: Four Speed Trans.

After 1980 FORD still used a four speed manual until about 93. I think that
is a T-18/NP435 for the early ones and a T-19 for the later rigs. What can
be said about the T-19, is it like the Np435 (no first syncro)?

This mailing list has been great. A big thanks goes out to everyone.
- -Tyler-

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:34:42 -0600 (MDT)
From: zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski)
Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #155

Hi Ken,

Here is 155, I could go thru my mail and compile 156 if you want.

Zeb

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 03:50:23 -0600 (MDT)
From: owner-fordtrucks80up-digest ListService.net (fordtrucks80up-digest)
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