fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, October 8 1997 Volume 01 : Number 154
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In this issue:
Re: BG Products [David Hertzberg ]
Mile Marker [tfam swbell.net]
Oil pan heating element [David Hertzberg ]
teh system works --sometimes [yhtlines surfari.net]
Ranger clutches [yhtlines surfari.net]
Re: Paint Problems [Todd Metzger ]
'99 F-250/350 Manual 6 Speed Pattern? [Scott MacButch ]
Trans Command ["Mike Jones"]
Re: Mazda B4000 [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: Dealer Decals [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
98 Rangers ...and then some. [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
91 Ranger EEC codes [james oxley ]
Re: 98 Rangers ...and then some. [james oxley ]
Re: 91 Ranger EEC codes [droberts MIT.EDU (D Robertson)]
Limited Slip Stuff... [Andrew T Vincitore ]
Re: Trans Command [KSMIKE aol.com]
K&N KIT FOR 4.0L 93 RANGER ["Patrick Ward" ]
RE: Ranger Shift Noise ["Mike Wiatt" ]
Splitfires?!?!?! No WaY ["Mike Wiatt" ]
Re: Ranger Shift Noise [james oxley ]
vanir throttle body [Thom Cheney ]
Re: Splitfires?!?!?! No WaY [Todd Metzger ]
Re: reply to 98 F150 toy questions [MMBTV aol.com]
Re: Paint Problems ["Lou Guerriero" ]
Fwd: 84 Bronco II [MMc1 webtv.net (Michael McCullough)]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #153 ["Mark A. Ross" ]
F350 general questions ["Aaron Barrus" ]
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 05:06:05 PDT
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: Re: BG Products
Summit racing sells BG products. I've used BG Diesel Oil additive in my truck
and tractor and have noticed a difference in smoothness and a slight
improvement in powser (esp the tractor.) A local mechanic here in the DC area
named Pat Goss--he has a weekend radio show and is quite credible--endorses BG
and sells it in his shop.
>I have heard of BG products and have a rep who lives two doors down from me.
>I have used their products but, I caution to use them again. The rep
>wanted to do a radiator flush with his BG products on my 92 Bronco with 68k
>miles, now I don't know if it was coincidence or what but, about a month
>later my water pump went out on me. He did do the same flush on a 90 Honda
>with 88K miles and haven't had any problems. I also used a fuel additive
>and soon noticed that the in tank fuel pump was louder. Coincidence? or
>did I just take notice? I'm sure they have some very good products and
>they sell their stuff to local dealers who use them on our vehicles when we
>get them serviced, it's just that I'm a little bit skeptical of additives
>You can check out their web page at
>At 05:43 PM 10/7/97 -0400, bigguy wrote...
>>Has anyone heard of BG products? I was told that MOA oil additive is
>>some good stuff. I was wondering if anyone has heard of this stuff and
>>if you could tell me what it is.
>>I am also looking for some power mods for a 94 V6 4.0L. If you guys
>>have any good power mods let me know.
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David and Leila Hertzberg
I am a factory field service tec. for a company that produces some
equipment that usually has add ons produced by other companies. There
are many incedences when the add ons cause problems, but the reps for
the other company tell the customer that their equipment just can`t be
at fault, we disconnect thier crap, the problem goes away. Something to
think about. Mile Marker may make a very fine winch, but to tap into the
p.s. pump, bad idea!!! Why dont they also supply a pump,such as used in
the old Massy-Furgesson 410 and 510 series combines, a high volume and
high pressure hydraulic pump that is diven by a common v-belt and pulley
on the front of the engine. That would make everything work better all
arround. L.D. in K.C. 97 F-250HD 4x4 s/c 52
F-1 50 f-1 panel
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 06:51:52 PDT
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: Oil pan heating element
Does anyone out there know where I can purchase a heating element for an oil
pan? Summit has a heating pad, but i'm thinking of an metal element that one
can thread into the crankcase either from the bottom or the side. I've
replaced my drain plug with an adapter for a pre-luber, so I would leave that
alone. Thanks much for your help. David
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 05:15:21
From: yhtlines surfari.net
Subject: teh system works --sometimes
re the speedometer change for bigger tires on an F150. My info (and I just
lost it in a hard drive failure) is that the later ones (like my 95) have a
digital odometer. Don't know how the analog speedo works yet.
There is a sequence of events (pushes) on the odometer and trip reset
buttons that will reset the calibrtion on the speedometer. So is the 'dash
digital"? Probably. Sorry, I lost the instructions for this.
on my 83 Ranger, the hydraulic clutch was leaking at 50k miles. The dealer
replaced the entire unit, told me it came pre-bled, otherwise could not be
At 200,000 I was having trouble shifting and replaced devices again--no
longer available as a pre-bled unit. I never could get it bled and working
properly, so sold it. I had the back end on stands (I believe), trying to
get that bleeder hole up instead of down.
> In a message dated 10/7/97 5:53:09, you wrote:
> unofficial recall of the
> paint. You have to submit the truck for a "tape" test. Ours failed (as I
> knew it would since
> it was flaking off everywhere). If you fail the test, you get a complete
> paint job for free. So,
> don't let them get away with telling you that it's not possible. Tell the
> dealer that you know
> for a fact that many Ford trucks/SUV's from this era suffered from faulty
> paint and that you know they can make it right...>>
> Hmm, any more details? I have a 92 Bronco, no paint peeling problems, but the
> Blue has just gone to heck in a handbasket. Truck stored under carport at
> night, in covered parking gargage during working hours, so it's not abused.
> Just big time faded and ready for new paint job. Kinda discouraging for less
> than 36K miles!....
> 92 Bronco 351
> 93 F250 S/C 351
> Ain't got no stinkin Litres here.......
I have read a number of articles in various newsgroups on this subject. I have
found out that a good majority of dealers will not fix the paint since there was
no official recall. If you would like to find out more, check out this guys
93 XLT Explorer
And it does see dirt!
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 07:43:22 -0600
From: Scott MacButch
Subject: '99 F-250/350 Manual 6 Speed Pattern?
Evidently the new "Super Duty" Fords are going to have a 6 speed with
over drive when ordered with manual trannys. Wondering if anyone had
any knowledge or thoughts as to what the shifting pattern would be
(possible splitter?). Also wondering what the big benefit having a
6-speed over the old 5-speed is.
Scott MacButch - Idaho
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:09:21 -0400
From: "Mike Jones"
Subject: Trans Command
Recently, I've seen postings related to how well the Trans Command (and the
other one on the market, which name escapes me) works. This really piqued
my interest, since I HATE the way my Expedition (5.4L w/E40D) shifts at
full throttle. One question: Does the Trans Command (or the other one)
raise the full-throttle shift points? As it is now, full-throttle shifts
are at 4500 rpms. Silly. That wonderful OHC engine, and it shifts like a
clapped out '77 LTD.
On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:04:33 -0400 petere mitre.org (Peter D. Engels)
>>All this talk about "TruckSuck?" stickers has reminded me I'd like to
>>get rid of a few stickers of my own. My 97 Ranger was delivered with
>>hideous dealer name decals stuck on both side panels of my truck
>>directly underneath the Ranger XL badges. They're plain white and
>>contrast horribly with both the factory badge and the cayman green
>>color. Any suggestions for removing these decals w/o damaging the
>>clearcoat? Also, I tried nail polish remover and windex on the
>>of my passenger window, but still can't get the residue of the
>>options and price sheet sticker off. It's this ugly square of glue
>>I'd like to remove. Thanks.
>Try rubbing with paint thinner.
Try a combination of paint thinner and rubbing alcohol. Dab logo with
the paint thinner using a q-tip and let it sit for about 20 secs, then
pour some alcohol on a rag the wipe the logo. You may have to do this
several times before its all said an done.
It took my a good 30 mins to get the Texan Ford "puffy" sticker off
the tailgate of my truck to come off with out leaving any scratches
or damaging the clear coat.
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 10:20:39 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: 98 Rangers ...and then some.
Well, I got to test drive a new 98 Ranger Supercab 2.3L 5spd man.
This truck drives like a car. The handling is much better that the
models. The cab seemed like it was a lot bigger too. My friend was
me that they are expecting a 4 door (like the D*dge quad cab) some time
The "Brother" to the Ranger is also under going a face lift. Like the
new Rangers, the Mazda trucks also get the rack and pinion and a new
front grille which looks more like the 93 and up Ford Ranger grilles.
I really couldn't tell, but it looks like the Mazda has the same head
light assembly as the 93 and up model Rangers.
It seems like everyone is going for the Ranger body style these days.
Nissan has redesigned its truck for the first time since 1986.
It looks like a cross between a Ranger and a Tacoma.
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 10:46:10 -0700
From: james oxley
Subject: 91 Ranger EEC codes
My freind has a 91 Ranger, 2WD, 2.3 EFI. I pulled the codes and got a
34, 41, and 88. I have a Ford Emission diagnostic manual from 1986, but
it does not list these codes. Is there anywhere on the net that has
a listing of codes and/or could someone with the 91 emission diagnostic
manual tell me what sensors these codes apply to.
Thanks in advance
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 10:50:30 -0700
From: james oxley
Subject: Re: 98 Rangers ...and then some.
>My friend was telling me that they are expecting a 4 door (like the
>D*dge quad cab) some time next year.
I have seen this truck and am waiting to get it. This 4 door, short
bed is an awsome idea. The 98 ranger has come up short against the
explorer in that the 4.0 SOHC and 4 wheel disk brakes are not avail. I
hope by next year they are. 160 HP (4.0) is not enough for me.
OX , Try this web page it has EEC info
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:22:44 -0400
From: Andrew T Vincitore
Subject: Limited Slip Stuff...
Wait a minute... I thought a limited slip rear would move power to the
wheel with traction ESPECIALLY when one wheel was stuck. Would'nt that be=
the whole point? If it does'nt then I won't be investing in a changeover.=
Can anyone clarify this? Is the Detroit locker type the only kind that wi=
do this? What are the disadvantages of something like that? I guess there=
is alot of misconceptions out there ( or maybe just here)!
92 F-250 2WD Piano truck
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:35:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: KSMIKE aol.com
Subject: Re: Trans Command
I have a Banks Trans Command on my 95 Bronco with a E4OD and it helped a
great deal. Feels about the same at part throttle but much firmer at full
throttle. Works great pulling a 6,000 lb trailer also.
Date: 8 Oct 1997 09:05:10 -0700
From: "Patrick Ward"
Subject: K&N KIT FOR 4.0L 93 RANGER
I don't think K&N makes a filtercharger injection kit for a 4.0L do they =
I have the same promblem with the clutch not disengaging completely. I
have a 94 4.0 with some very mild mods and when I shift between 1st and
2nd from a high rpm in 1st I either need to let the rpm's drop or just
slam it into gear and grind em. Do you lose to that S-10 or do you have
everyone laugh at you because they dont think you know how to shift? Or
is their some kind of fix. From the last post about this problem a new
clutch wont solve this(thinking about Centerforce) cuz its the master
cylinder. I too would be very happy to hear input on this problem.
The Ford Ranger Pages
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 10:51:47 PDT
From: "Mike Wiatt"
Subject: Splitfires?!?!?! No WaY
I dont know of too many people that have had al ot of luck with
Splitfires. My dad put them in his 91 3.0 and noticed decreased gas
mileage and poor engine idle. The only people I have talked to that
actually like them are the Honda and Toyota 4-cylinder boys. Look into
Bosch Platinum plugs. Thats what I got and my truck(94 4.0) runs great.
The Ford Ranger Pages
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 14:06:44 -0700
From: james oxley
Subject: Re: Ranger Shift Noise
Mike Wiatt wrote:
> I have the same promblem with the clutch not disengaging completely. I
> have a 94 4.0 with some very mild mods and when I shift between 1st and
> 2nd from a high rpm in 1st I either need to let the rpm's drop or just
> slam it into gear and grind em. Do you lose to that S-10 or do you have
> everyone laugh at you because they dont think you know how to shift? Or
> is their some kind of fix. From the last post about this problem a new
> clutch wont solve this(thinking about Centerforce) cuz its the master
> cylinder. I too would be very happy to hear input on this problem.
Sounds like a synchronizer problem, but some trannies are finicky
even with new synchros. If you have totally ruled out a synchro problem
and think it's inherent in the design, you could try Redline synthetic
gear oils (same weight), BG synchroshift tranny fluid, and/or GM synchro
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 10:52:32 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: vanir throttle body
Does anyone have any experience with the Vanir 63mm thottle body?
They claim it is easy bolt on hp for the 4.0L.
'97 Ranger 4X4 S-cab STX
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 13:29:04 +0000
From: Todd Metzger
Subject: Re: Splitfires?!?!?! No WaY
If anyone is interested in reading further about these plugs, go to this
It is some pretty informative reading.
Personally, I use the Bosch Platinum plugs and I love them. Just remember
to use a feeler gauge when you gap them and not a 99-cent keychain round
gapper that you can buy at Autozone.
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:37:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: MMBTV aol.com
Subject: Re: reply to 98 F150 toy questions
I looked at a lot of fiberglass bed covers before I purchased mine from
Innovative Industries in Norco Ca. ( a small co. that builds their own covers
and shells) and here are a few things that i found:
1. Make sure that the corners closest to the cab completely cover the
stock black plastic bed protector.
2. If I remenber correctly "Leer" has a cover that installs with "no
From: MMc1 webtv.net (Michael McCullough)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:42:37 -0400
To: owner-fordtrucks80up-digest ListService.net
Subject: 84 Bronco II
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I am in the process of rebuilding the motor in my Bronco II and I am
having trouble finding an adequate carb for the stock manifold. Ive
thought about a Holley 500cfm I saw in my Summit catalog. But is that
too large for such a small motor. I have a three inch body lift and 31"
Super Swampers. Should or could I use the 500cfm or should a Holley
280cfm or a Holley 390cfm.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:38:39 -0400
From: "Mark A. Ross"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #153
I had a problem with my 94 Ranger shifting poorly. It turned out the =
pilot bearing "migrated" into the crankshaft, it is supposed to be on =
the flywheel. This arrangement is the only vehicle I have ever seen with =
this pilot bearing arrangement. My permanent fix was to install 2 =
bearings one in the flywheel and one on the crank so it cannot move.
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 15:47:06 -0600
From: "Aaron Barrus"
Subject: F350 general questions
I=27ve been watching the mailing list archives for a while, but decided =
I=27d have to actually post to find answers to some of my VERY-NOVICE =
questions. Please gimmie a hand=21 I need to pull a 40=27 5th, and my =
toyota just ain=27t gonna cut it. How much would you expect a trailer =
like this to weigh? I=27m looking in the 1988 to 92 range, because I =
understand 88 is when the Powerstroke 7.3 was introduced, right? I=27d =
prefer a crew cab, which means I=27m looking at an F350 no matter what (in =
that year range), right?
My questions are: when people are talking about axles, what does HD mean? =....To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User
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