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fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, October 8 1997 Volume 01 : Number 153



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In this issue:

RE: Ranger Shift Noise [fwise juno.com]
Re: Mazda B4000 [Dave Armbruster ]
Ranger Engine Codes [Dave Armbruster ]
RE: Rusty '98 Ranger [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
re: Ranger Engine Codes [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Running outof fuel? [yhtlines surfari.net]
Re: more power ["Jerry Dean" ]
Re: Running outof fuel? [Filip M Gieszczykiewicz ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #152 ["Josh Armstrong"
The system works... sometimes! [hunter cyberstreet.com (Michael Kisielews]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #150 ["Lou Guerriero"
Lighting Changeovers [Midwest96 aol.com]
Two speed differential [Ted Ladd ]
Paint Problems [MadPoodle aol.com]

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:03:51 -0500
From: fwise juno.com
Subject: RE: Ranger Shift Noise

Dear Bradley,

It sounds like you are suffering from the result of (I believe) a Ford
design flaw. I had an 89 Ranger (2.9L) and currently have a 94 Ranger
(3.0L) that behave(d) in a similar fashion. Your clutch pedal is flat on
the floor, but the clutch is *not* completely disengaged. My 89 was
purchased used, and I assumed that a clutch job would take care of the
problem. Replacing the pressure plate, clutch disk, refacing the
flywheel, replacing the pilot bearing, the hydraulic throwout bearing and
clutch master cylinder failed to solve the problem. I bought my 94 new,
and upon taking it in for warranty service, was told that the clutch
release was "within spec." What is great fun is on really cold mornings
when the disengagement is so limited that you can't shift at all.

On top of this, the poor design of the clutch master cylinder (which I
believe is too small to provide the needed travel by the throwout
bearing, either that, or the throwout bearing is travel limited) places
the outlet at the *lowest* point of the cylinder (it should be at the
highest, allowing air to flow through the system and pass out the bleed
screw), necessitating removing the entire system (up to the transmission)
to properly bleed the system, should you get air in the lines. Of course,
if you enjoy standing on your head, you might enjoy the exercise, but...

A thorough bleeding of the system *may* help with your problem, and is at
least worth trying. If anyone has a real fix for this, I would love to
hear it. I have enjoyed my Rangers, but the clutch problem (which also
prohibits quick shifts, needed to keep the 2.3 & 3.0 engines in their
powerbands) is a royal pain.

Fred Wise
94 Ranger Supercab 3.0L

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:37:28 -0600
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: Re: Mazda B4000

>>>if your gonna get a mazda then you should get out of this mailing
>>system
>>>unless your gonna put a ford motor but eveb though mazda is ford
>>cause ford
>>>bought out mazda and on some new mazda trucks if you look on the door
>>with
>>>the sticker it would say manufactured by ford
>>
>>I don't agree that you need to leave this list... from everything I
>>have
>>read (not having actually compared the two trucks) you are essentially
>>buying a Ranger. Some of the sheet metal and interior pieces may be
>>cosmetically different but I believe the rest of the truck(s) is the
>>same.
>
>
>I have nothing aginst the post 94 Mazda Trucks either. From what I have
>seen, they are the same truck.

My '97 had the little blue sticker showing assembly in the Twin Cities, but
it also had a sticker on the driver's window stating the proportion of
U.S./Canada made parts as 80% and "Other" as 20%. It is a 4wd, S/C, with
the 4.0L and 5-spd auto. I am pretty sure that the radio is probably not
North American (I think it is made by Pioneer), so unless they assume the
radio is VERY important, there is a good part that is made by Mazda.

Dave

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:37:42 -0600
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: Ranger Engine Codes

I was in Western Auto yesterday, looking to buy Splitfires for my '97 4.0L
Ranger. He listed none. Looking back to the '96, the question was "X"
engine code or not. I checked mine, I do have an "X" engine code. What
does this mean?

Looks like to me in mid year 1996, Ford switched something in the 4.0L
engine. I am not sure what they might have done that would make sparkplugs
uncompatible, how about emission, ignition, fuel injection, block
threading? I have not called the dealer yet, and I am still saving pennies
for that Helm's Manual...

Dave

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:33:32, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: RE: Rusty '98 Ranger

I took delivery of my '98 4x2 Ranger and noticed the same thing. I
live in MN and realize rusty frames are going to happen anyway. I
did have Ziebart rustproof the undercariage, but they didn't hit
these. Oh well. When I put new wheels on it next spring, I'll try
to give it a shot of Rustoleum. Maybe I should do that now, too.
The rust did annoy me, but the truck was so amazing I kinda forgot
about it. 4.0L, manual tranny. 3.55 gears, reg cab, shortbox, 4x2.
It's a rocket. Quarter mile times: best: 16.72 sec and 81.78 mph.
Not too bad, but i expected better out of this small of a truck.
Maybe it is because of AC, PW, PL, Cruise, moonroof (I love it!),
steel wheels, PM, and other stuff. oh well. I LOVE the truck.

Josh

Josh

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:37:29, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: Ranger Engine Codes

The "X" engine code is used by the dealer when ordering the 4.0L, so
YES your '97 does have the "X" code and so does my '98. Look in your
truck manual (from the factory) and read the recommended "Motorcraft"
spark plugs and try to cross them over. I noticed something about
the spark plugs and it said if you remove one to check it, make sure
you put it back in the same cylinder. Maybe the gaps are different.
I don't know, but it is something I am curios about.

Josh

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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 16:46:07
From: yhtlines surfari.net
Subject: Running outof fuel?

My son had his 88 F150 over today for me to look at the front seal oil leak
(damn!), and I decided to do a few things in the way of maintenance, one
being to replace the fuel filter--the one about the size of a PH8 oil
filter. I've heard there is another one? Also, what are the two gadgets
tucked into the frame just aft of the filter, one horizontally oriented
(metallic cover) and the rear one a plastic job, vertically mounted? (the
filter did have a lot of black soluble 'dirt' in it.

Also, I noticed that his exhaust pipe was sooted up. Knowing that
everything on it (wires, plugs etc) was new, I was wondrous. Even with the
very conservative, gas misering way he drives, it should not have been
sooty. So with it in park, I 'revved' it up to listen for a miss. It would
only go so far up in rpm and then begin a cyclic rpm increase and decrease
(step in here now with some WOWeeeeWOWeeee sounds!).

So.....could this be fuel related? The cyclic rpm change made me wonder
fuel regulator (where is that bugger?). Switching tanks did not seem to
make a difference. Any help here?
Dave Lampert (with a sick hard drive) yhtlines surfari.net

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:20:40 -0400
From: "Jerry Dean"
Subject: Re: more power

Try putting in a K&N Filtercharger Injection Performance Kit, replacing the
sparkplugs and wires with hi-performance ones, and and a bigger throttle
body.

- -----Original Message-----
From: bigguy
To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
Date: Tuesday, October 07, 1997 8:57 AM
Subject: more power



>I was wondering what kind of power mods I could do for my 94 4.0L V6. I
>
>saw in other messages earlier something about power chips. Do you know
>if my truck can use one of these and if so what is a good one to use?
>What kind of performance could I expect if I am able to use one?
>
>Jim
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:40:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
Subject: Re: Running outof fuel?

You (yhtlines surfari.net) wrote:
> Also, I noticed that his exhaust pipe was sooted up. Knowing that
> everything on it (wires, plugs etc) was new, I was wondrous. Even with the
> very conservative, gas misering way he drives, it should not have been
> sooty. So with it in park, I 'revved' it up to listen for a miss. It would
> only go so far up in rpm and then begin a cyclic rpm increase and decrease
> (step in here now with some WOWeeeeWOWeeee sounds!).

Greetings. You're sure the truck doesn't have a REV limiter on it?
Our Saturn (ok, not a truck) will rev up to about 6KRPM in neutral
and will make the same WOWeeeeWOWeeee sound as the fuel is ramped
down at ~5-7Hz to lower the RPM.

> So.....could this be fuel related? The cyclic rpm change made me wonder
> fuel regulator (where is that bugger?). Switching tanks did not seem to
> make a difference. Any help here?

Take care.

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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 97 20:31:55 PDT
From: "Josh Armstrong"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #152

Dose Anyone here have a 86-92 Bronco Full size that is running 4.11 gears
in the rear end? I am thinking about replaceing the stock gears with this.
The truck is running 33" muds with a 302 and an AOD. Any comment would be
helpful. Also would\did it help the mpg or did it kill it?

Thanks
Josh Armstong
89 Bronco

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 23:45:43 -0400
From: hunter cyberstreet.com (Michael Kisielewski)
Subject: The system works... sometimes!

Well to fill you in, I'm the one who asked about speedo re-calibration
due to going with the 16" wheels and tires instead of the 17" ones. I
called the dealer (Don Gasgarth's Charlotte County Ford) and was put in
touch with a service rep, now I don't want to say anything bad about
them or tell you their name but her initials are Pat Sandles. I
explained my problem to her and her first question was "Do you have a
digital dash?" Now I'm not sure but could you even get a digital dash on
the "97 F-150's? Even so I was told in no uncertain terms "No it cannot
be done, none of the '97 F series trucks can have the speedo
calibrated". I then called my local Lincoln Mercury dealer and was given
an honest "I don't know, but if you call Ford Customer Service at
800-392-3673 they may be able to help you". Those who are looking for it
write the number down in your owners manual. When I explained my
situation to them the individual I was speaking with said he didn't even
know the dealer was authorized to swap tire sizes (anything to sell a
unit off the lot I suppose). I was then put on hold while they called my
dealer. They came back to me saying that they had spoken with the
service manager who would be giving me a call. The manager assured me
that it could be fixed, even if they needed to put in a new speedo they
would take care of it. I brought my truck in today and was called two
hours later saying it was finished. It seems all they needed to do was
change out a gear in the tranny (as was suspected). I took it onto the
interstate and at least the odometer seems to be registering extremely
close with the mile markers. I will be pacing it tomorrow with a vehicle
that is known to have a calibrated speedo but I suspect it will be
within the +/- 2 mph range that other dealers have said is factory
tolerance. Thanks for the feedback I recieved and for letting me tell my
story with the happy ending!

Michael

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:24:53 -0400
From: "Lou Guerriero"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #150

Hi,

I don't know about that "truck suck" motto. Sounds Like
trouble just being asked for. How about everyone come up with some ideas?

Lou.

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:46:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Midwest96 aol.com
Subject: Lighting Changeovers

Hi,
New to the list, but I've seen a few messages and it looks really cool. I
was wondering if I could get some help. I have '96 F150, and I am changing
the interior lights over to blue. So far, I have the panel cluster done
(inc. odo), the courtesy lamps except for dome (burns through bulbs too fast,
so I'm converting it), but the climate control area is B*tch! f any one has
ideas or hase done something similar suggestions are appreciated. So far,
I've cut and frosted a peice of plexi and am going to cut the knobs to fit,
and generate a face on my computer. Tx,



























Craig

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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 21:54:15 -0700
From: Ted Ladd
Subject: Two speed differential

Before I ask my question of the group I would like to thank everyone
that responded to my request for fuel mileage info on the 351 and the
460. The info provided me with enough insight to provide an educated
decision to purchase a 1988 F350 1 Ton Dually with a 460 for towing a
30' 5th wheel. The truck is a real dream. Many thanks for your info. My
question today is whether or not anyone knows if there is a two speed
differential or axle assembly available for the F350 Dually. Any info on
this subject would be appreciated. Many thanks. Ted Ladd
88F350 Dually.

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 04:12:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: MadPoodle aol.com
Subject: Paint Problems

In a message dated 10/7/97 5:53:09, you wrote:


unofficial recall of the
paint. You have to submit the truck for a "tape" test. Ours failed (as I
knew it would since
it was flaking off everywhere). If you fail the test, you get a complete
paint job for free. So,
don't let them get away with telling you that it's not possible. Tell the
dealer that you know
for a fact that many Ford trucks/SUV's from this era suffered from faulty
paint and that you know they can make it right...>>

Hmm, any more details? I have a 92 Bronco, no paint peeling problems, but the....


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