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fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, October 7 1997 Volume 01 : Number 151



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In this issue:

RE: Buying a 88 F250 4x4 [David Hertzberg ]
RE: 1997 F150 limited slip rear differential [Will Wood
Re: Winches [jlester naxs.com (Jason Lester)]
more power [bigguy ]
RE: PINGING ["Stephen M. Brown" ]
Re: '95 Ranger Shift Noise [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: Truck suck? Should've bought Ford [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Dealer Decals [Brian Pynn ]
Re: 1997 F150 limited slip rear differential [R Mills
89 Bronco II ["Judy Thill (MG MSMAIL)" ]
Re: Dealer Decals [Ken Payne ]
Re: Dealer Decals [petere mitre.org (Peter D. Engels)]
RE: Dealer Decals [Brian Pynn ]
RE: Dealer Decals [Dave Haugen ]
Re: 89 Bronco II ["David J. Baldwin" ]
98 F150 toy questions ["Judy Thill (MG MSMAIL)" ]
RE: Dealer Decals [petere mitre.org (Peter D. Engels)]
Re: 1997 F150 limited slip rear differential ["David J. Baldwin"

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 05:40:34 PDT
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: RE: Buying a 88 F250 4x4

Congrats on your truck. I own the identical vehicle although mine has the
original 7.3 in it, with about 94k. I've not had any serious problems, but I
also take meticulous care of the truck and engine. I use the block heater
every morning before I go to work, summer and winter, spring and fall, for
about three hours (I have it hooked up to a timer so I don;t have to get up at
2 am). This is critical. I use Stanadyne fuel additive every time I add fuel.
I also use a coolant additive sold by either Fleetrite or Pencool to prevent
liner cavitation. The u-joints on the drive shaft typically do not have grease
fittings, so you may want to have these replaced as a preventitive (unless they
are already squeaking). Periodically tighten all the valve cover bolts, or else
you will think you have an oil leak. Use a motorcraft oil filter-- its less
prone to leakage. The mileage you cite sounds about right. Change oil and air
filter as often as you can afford it--the 3000 mile rule for the engine if ok,
but because of the combustion process and the need for clean air, I recommend
doing it more often. Use a high quality oil like Fleetrite 15W-40; you
can swith to a 10W-30 in the winter. Change the fuel filter at 30K, and don't
forget the transaxle fluids once a year (the front has to be siphoned out, and
rear plate has to be removed to drain the rear transaxle). I recently
installed a pre-oiler (it took about four hours) and am very pleased with it.
My truck has no front-end problems... maybe I'm lucky. Also make sure you
have good batteries. You got an excellent deal, now just do the preventative
maintenance and it will last forever. David



>
>I have found a 1988 Ford F250 Supercab 4x4 with a 7.3 Diesel and have a
>few questions about it and also want any comments about problem areas, or
>general info from anyone who has owned one from this era. It was a Company
>truck (Daily driver for the general manager) and has had very good care
>and has all the paperwork to back up any repairs or problems. The engine
> >was replaced in 92, as the original one from the factory was missing rings
>in 1 or 2 cylinders(!) and the new engine has about 50,000 miles on it.
>The truck has 124K on it now. The body is in good condition, with about 5
>small dents in it (on the top of the sides of the bed) The paint is in OK
>condition with a couple areas of peeled off paint. It has had recent new
>brakes, new alternator, glow plugs, rear tires, starter, stereo, and
>repaired power windows. The tie rods were replaced in 92. It has seen very
>little 4x4 duty, mainly inclement weather or hunting trips. It is the XLT
>model and has air/tilt/cruise/power windows and locks/cloth interior. I
>have been looking for a diesel although I was looking for something newer
>with less miles. However, since I know the guy, he is willing to give me
>what appears to be a great deal on it at only $6000.=20
>
>What problem areas does this truck have? I have heard reports of front end
>problems on this era of Ford 4x4's. Is this true? What are the problems?=20
>
>Fuel mileage is supposed to be around 17-18 empty, and 12 loaded. Does
>this sound about right?=20
>
>The truck has a been in the shop for a new alternator, regulator and
>checking up on charging problems. All of this area has been replaced and
>supposedly as long as you plug in the block heaer on cold nites it starts=
>=20
>easily. Should I be concerned about this?
>
>Please either reply directly or CC: me if you reply to the list so I can
>easily get the replies and respond to them, My mail program doesn't digest
>lists very well when replying ;)=20
>
>Thanks for any input any of you can give me on this!=20
>
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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 05:26:03 -0600
From: Will Wood
Subject: RE: 1997 F150 limited slip rear differential

I have an 87 F350 with Ford Locking rear end, the truck is two wheel drive.
Other than it feels too light in the rear with the 6.9 Up front the diff is
great. Going around corners though on snow and ice can take some getting
used to. The rear tends to push outward since both rear wheels get the power.

If you want to get rid of the limited slip, maybe Ford has an option for
the 150s, but for my money I'd go with a Detroit Locker for a 4X4. I replaced
my diffs in my 85 Ranger 4X4 with Detroit Lockers since I'd had good
luck with them in a 72 Scout II. These things are noisy, i.e., when they
engage they clunk but they deliver the power to the wheels.

Will Wood

KdF Service and Supply
801 731 3360
801 732 1250 Fax.


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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 08:49:17 -0400
From: jlester naxs.com (Jason Lester)
Subject: Re: Winches

I too was considering the Mile Marker until reading the new issue of
"4- Wheel and Off-Road". They test it against a Warn 9000. The Mile Marker
was the best for pulling a dead weight, but wasn't nearly as good as the
Warn in real-world situations. Also, it blew out two steering pumps on
their test truck and completely cooked the fluid. Their recommendation was
to get the Warn and let it cool ever so often if necessary. Check it out
in the new issue. It mentions the test on the front cover.

Jason

At 09:08 PM 10/6/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Couple of comments re winches - just bought one for my (new) F350
>
>- Mile Marker was my choice: hydraulic, rated for continuous usage (rather
>than
> intermittent as with Warn etc), competitive price and the people in
> Pompano Beach (HQ) were friendly and helpful. However, my local Ford
> service manager pointed out that ANY problem with steering hydraulics
> would be extremely expensive to fix, and they would look VERY closely
> at whether the winch had a hand in causing the problem. I got the message
> and cravenly went to my second choice: Warn M12000.

>I was casually looking at Mile Marker, and was also concerned about
additional
>load on the Power Steering pump/system. Did you by any chance give Mile
Marker
>an opportunity to respond to the concerns raised by Ford? It might be
>interesting to see what they have to say. (Despite the fact they would be
>biased)

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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 08:53:36 -0400
From: bigguy
Subject: more power

I was wondering what kind of power mods I could do for my 94 4.0L V6. I

saw in other messages earlier something about power chips. Do you know
if my truck can use one of these and if so what is a good one to use?
What kind of performance could I expect if I am able to use one?

Jim

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:21:23 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Brown"
Subject: RE: PINGING

MD,

Hey that's nothing...I even went as far as to check voltages to the entire
EGR system (EGR valve position sensor, solenoid controller, etc) and idle
air bypass system. Then pulled the EGR valve, cleaned it, and reinstalled!
Of course, I pulled the EEC codes first, to be sure. But since he posted
the problem, I am assuming he wants some answers as to what could be the
trouble. As I learned, you can never know enough, and this guy now is now
armed with many potential causes.

You're right tho, unless his old filter is full of crud! If that was the
case, then the EEC could've adapted to a highly restrictive intake, then
suddenly with the K&N, he's got MONSTER airflow! So replacing a clogged
intake might make the pinging go away, but you don't have a real solution.
If it's clean, then maybe.

My new suggestion if this is the case (clogged filter run for a long time)
is to disconnect the battery for AT LEAST 15 minutes. It will erase the
EEC computer's stored memory & cause it to relearn with the K&N...might do
the trick. Some mechanics make a fortune by doing this day in and day out!

steve

>Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:45:20 -0700
>From: MD Wayment
>Subject: Re: PINGING

>WOW, before I did all those suggestions Steve, which are quite numerous
and
>time consuming, I'd first put the original air filter back in and get the
> engine back to a known good condition first. If it stops pinging then
probably
>the K&N setup. If not then it wasn't the K&N addition. A little logic
goes
>far. Start back at first base first!

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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 10:13:11 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: '95 Ranger Shift Noise

On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 13:06:46 -0500 Bradley and Debbie Miller
writes:

>been all the way in and yet I've got the weird noise. I've never had
>it
>happen in any other gear other than the 2nd-1st shift. I don't think
>it
>happens with the truck stopped.


Shifting from 2nd to 1st, 1st to 2nd, or it doesnt matter? How fast are
you going
when you shift?

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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 10:13:11 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: Truck suck? Should've bought Ford

On Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:42:05 -0700 Bob Scola
writes:
>>Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:28:58 -0700
>>From: MD Wayment
>>Subject: Re: Sticker
>>
>>As Marv Albert would say ......... YESSSSSSS!!
>>
>>Ezekial wrote:
>>
>>> I will have to vote for the following:
>>> Truck suck? Should've bought Ford...
>>> www.ford-truck.com
>
>Then Marv would have bit you on the ass .....
>
>I'll vote for "Truck Suck" too.



Im not so sure about it.... ....sounds like a good way to get your truck
key' ed
>
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:20:09 -0700
From: Brian Pynn
Subject: Dealer Decals

All this talk about "TruckSuck?" stickers has reminded me I'd like to
get rid of a few stickers of my own. My 97 Ranger was delivered with
hideous dealer name decals stuck on both side panels of my truck....

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