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fordtrucks80up-digest Sunday, October 5 1997 Volume 01 : Number 146



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In this issue:

banks transcommand ["henry gervais" ]
Ranger/Bronco II list [cvanhooser juno.com (Charles R. Van Hooser)]
Re: Ranger/Bronco II list [john.doe erols.com]
Re: Ranger/Bronco II list ["Randy L. Hatcher" ]
Rangers/Explorers [Rick Horwitz ]
Ranger/Explorer/Bronco II question [Ken Payne ]
Forget my last posting, already answered! [Ken Payne
ADMIN: Binary attachments - solution [Ken Payne ]
Re: Ranger/Bronco II list ["Tom L." ]
Re: Ranger/Bronco II list [helotie juno.com (Mark A Helotie)]
Re: 1999 F-250 HD+ specs [BigDogF250 aol.com]
Re: Rangers/Explorers [ILuvTruks aol.com]
ADMIN: Ranger/Bronco II/Explorer List [Ken Payne ]
Re: Ranger/Bronco II list ["Bob Leifer" ]
re: Ranger/Explorer/Bronco II question [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TE]
Re: 1999 F-250 HD OFF-ROAD Package [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY]
Re: oil change [Lehmandp aol.com]
Who sent "Thetruck.jpg" (Ranger pic) [Ken Payne ]
ADMIN: snail mail or email truck photos for pictorial [Ken Payne
re: oil filters [Randy Kindler ]
1997 Ford F350 PowerStroke [Jan Campbell ]
RE: exh. manifold gasket [Jim Cannon ]
Re: Ranger/Bronco II list [drjeep ]
New Ranger Page ["Mike Wiatt" ]
Re: Oil Filters ?... ["Ted L" ]
PLEASE FORD, TELL US IT'S ONLY A BAD DREAM ["Ted L"
Re: PLEASE FORD, TELL US IT'S ONLY A BAD DREAM [BigDogF250 aol.com]
Re: ADMIN: Other designs submitted for window sticker [Jerad Heffner
1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help! ["Laura Dale" ]

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 21:45:25 -0400
From: "henry gervais"
Subject: banks transcommand

I have a transcommand in a 97 f350 psd dually works great
At part throttle very little difference but when you have a heavy load or
put your foot in it it hits hard.

Henry

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 08:28:12 -0400
From: cvanhooser juno.com (Charles R. Van Hooser)
Subject: Ranger/Bronco II list

I would also like to see a Ranger/Bronco II list.

C. Van Hooser
89 Bronco II Eddie Bauer edition

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 08:51:20 -0400
From: john.doe erols.com
Subject: Re: Ranger/Bronco II list

Please add one more vote for a Ranger/Bronco II list.



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john (the original doe)

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 09:38:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Randy L. Hatcher"
Subject: Re: Ranger/Bronco II list

I would like to also....to help/talk about ranger/bronco II problems

On Sat,
4 Oct 1997, Charles R. Van Hooser wrote:

> I would also like to see a Ranger/Bronco II list.
>
> C. Van Hooser
> 89 Bronco II Eddie Bauer edition
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Randy Hatcher

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 06:59:14 -0700
From: Rick Horwitz
Subject: Rangers/Explorers

If your going to do Rangers and Broncos II's you might as well throw Explorers in with them as well. The Explorer and the 91 and up Rangers share the same drivetrain components.

Thanks,
Rick Horwitz
explorer off -road. com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.off -road. com /4x4web/ford/explorer/

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 10:06:44 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Ranger/Explorer/Bronco II question

Does the Explorer share the same or similar frame and
mechanics as the Ranger/Bronco II? Having never been
under the hood of one I don't know. If so, how's this
for a suggestion...

Since the Bronco and Expedition are built off the
"big" truck lines, why now seperate by having a
Ranger/Bronco II/Explorer list?

Ken

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 10:20:36 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Forget my last posting, already answered!

Someone sent the answer moments before I sent the
question!

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 10:36:17 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Binary attachments - solution

The complaints about binary attachments are starting to come in
again.

I've found a solution, sort of. While I can't configure the
list to filter out binaries, I can configure it to bounce emails
posted containing any item I wish. I'm adding "winmail.dat",
"base-64" and other key words to the "taboo" file. If you get
a bounce, change your email settings to not use MIME, base64,
colors, special fonts, etc. If all else fails, dump your Microsoft
or Netscape mailer and get a mailer that's friendly with the
rest of the world. Windozs users should try Eudora lite:
www.eudora.com
Its free and a very good package.

Ken

Note: Replies to this message may bounce as I'm going to implement
the filters shortly. This message contains the "taboo" words that
are going to get filtered.

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 10:59:00 -0400
From: "Tom L."
Subject: Re: Ranger/Bronco II list

This Ranger owner loves the idea of a new list!!

Not that this list hasn't been absolutely awesome...

Regards, Tom

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:34:55 -0400
From: helotie juno.com (Mark A Helotie)
Subject: Re: Ranger/Bronco II list

On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 10:59:00 -0400 "Tom L." writes:

> This Ranger owner loves the idea of a new list!!

Another ditto here! :D

Mark :)
97 Ranger XLT 2WD 4.0L 5Speed XCab
[helotie juno.com]

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:36:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: BigDogF250 aol.com
Subject: Re: 1999 F-250 HD+ specs

Do you know if there are any off-road packages availible on the redesigned
F-250HD or the F-350(or just the F150 or F250LD)?
Matt 92 F250 5,8L 4x4

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 12:17:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: ILuvTruks aol.com
Subject: Re: Rangers/Explorers

Hey, Ken,
I agree, one more vote for the Ranger/Bronco II/Explorer List

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 12:49:45 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Ranger/Bronco II/Explorer List

Okay, looks like enough people have seconded the motion. It'll go
to a vote in a few days once I have a voting form on line. As
always, simple majority wins. So far in our history we've had 3
votes for splitting, twice the split won and once it lost.

I've always been democratic about these things so even though it
doesn't directly effect the 1960- and 1961-1979 lists they'll get to
vote on it too. The 1960-/1961-1979 list split was brought before
this list so its only fair.

I do want to say up front that if another list is formed it will not
start up until after I find another job. That shouldn't be a major
delay as I start interviews with a vengence this coming week.

Ken

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 13:34:02 -0400
From: "Bob Leifer"
Subject: Re: Ranger/Bronco II list

count me in too! Of course I'll wait for the real vote to act on.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Randy L. Hatcher
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Saturday, October 04, 1997 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: Ranger/Bronco II list



>I would like to also....to help/talk about ranger/bronco II problems
>
>On Sat,
>4 Oct 1997, Charles R. Van Hooser wrote:
>
>> I would also like to see a Ranger/Bronco II list.
.dragonfire.net/~site/fordtrucks/ --+

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 13:36:27, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: Ranger/Explorer/Bronco II question

Great idea to split up the list into Ranger/Explorer/Bronco II.

Josh
1998 Ranger 4.0L 4x2 reg cab....it's flies

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 13:39:39, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: 1999 F-250 HD OFF-ROAD Package

Matt,

The off-road package will be available on the 1999 F-250 and F-350.
It gives you skid plates on the transfer case and fuel tank, and you
get the "Off-Road 4x4" decal.

Josh

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 13:59:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lehmandp aol.com
Subject: Re: oil change

In a message dated 97-10-02 19:32:31 EDT, you write:


all the particles of metal in the oil (particles from the engine) have
settled onto the bottom of the pan, so when you drain the oil, you don't
get all of them out. I run the engine for 30 seconds or so to get all of
those wear-causing particles in suspension then more of them drain out and
there is less gunk in there to scratch things up.

--Casey--
>>

Dear Casey,

Shouldn't those particles have been caught in the filter? And if collected
at the bottom, wouldn't they flow out because of the low position of the
drain plug?

Just a thought...

Take care,
- -David

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 13:56:59 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Who sent "Thetruck.jpg" (Ranger pic)

Whoever sent "thetruck.jpg", let me know. I need to give
you credit for it before I put it on the web site.

Thanks,
Ken

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 14:02:34 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: snail mail or email truck photos for pictorial

I'm cleaning up the pictorial and taking off all pictures that
I cannot verify the source. Many of these pictures came from
my personal collection that I gathered from the net over the
years. In an effort to use only my own art and pictures from
the list members all the non-list pictures are going to come
off the list later this week.

Please send me photos of your truck, along with a description
and I'll scan it and post it on the web site. Or you may
email a scanned photo to me with description. You'll get
credit for the truck, the scan does not "belong" to Ford
Truck Enthusiasts and I will remove it from the site if you
change your mind about it. Show off your ride today!

I really need 30s through early 60s the most but I want anything
you can send. PO box is on the web site under the donations or
window sticker link.

http://www.ford-trucks.com

Ken

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 12:41:50 -0400
From: Randy Kindler
Subject: re: oil filters

A mechanic friend of mine recommends Purolator Oil Filters. He also
recommends against Fram. Something to do with check valve, I guess. I
would agree that if you change oil and filter every 3000 miles, it
probably doesn't matter much what kind of filter you use.

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 17:46:26 -0400
From: Jan Campbell
Subject: 1997 Ford F350 PowerStroke

Is anyone aware of a Web site that offers Ford parts, i.e. mudflaps
(these flaps have the Ford "script" written on them--looks classy).

Thanks to Ken Payne for the dealer window sticker reply.

Thanks.

Matt Campbell

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 18:32:01 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: RE: exh. manifold gasket

>Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 14:55:31 -0400 (EDT)
>From: MFlem94890 aol.com
>Subject: exh. manifold gasket
>
>I have a 1988 F250 king cab long bed, Had a ford dealer work on my truck,
>comes to find out, they didn't put a exh.manifold gasket on it. I've heard
>you don't really need one, is this true,

Technically, the gasket can be left out. It did not have one when it
left the factory. As a practicle matter, though, I would put one in
because the head-to-manifold mating surfaces are probably not as good
now as they were when the engine was new, so you will get slight leaks
without a gasket. Once it starts to leak, it will burn a path through
and get worse very quickly.

- --

Jim Cannon
Certified Quantum Mechanic
Houston, Texas
"Didja hear the one about the dyslexic agnostic insomniac?
He tossed and turned all night wondering if there really was a dog."

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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 22:36:15 -0400
From: drjeep
Subject: Re: Ranger/Bronco II list

not an AOLer but... "me too"!!!!! hahahahahaha

At 11:34 AM 10/4/97 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 10:59:00 -0400 "Tom L." writes:
>
>> This Ranger owner loves the idea of a new list!!
>
>Another ditto here! :D
>
>Mark :)
>97 Ranger XLT 2WD 4.0L 5Speed XCab
>[helotie juno.com]
>
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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 19:40:18 PDT
From: "Mike Wiatt"
Subject: New Ranger Page

There is a new ford ranger page.
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http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/7894/


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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 22:46:54 -0400
From: "Ted L"
Subject: Re: Oil Filters ?...

>>K-Mart always stocks Motorcraft oil and filters and has frequent sales on
>>both. Oil is .89 or .99 on sale and filters are 2 for $5.00 or cheaper on
sale.
>>
From: Steve Irving
Subject: Re: Oil Filters ?...
>Not for long, word I get is that Ford has stopped marketing Motorcraft
parts
>through anyone other than Authorized Ford Dealers.
>



Well, If that happens I'll go back to Quaker state as my oil of choice. I'll
be damned if I'd pay a dealer $3.00 for an .99 qt of oil or $12.00 for a
$3.00 oil filter.........:>)


Later,

Ted
mailto:tlister netcarrier.com

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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 00:36:14 -0400
From: "Ted L"
Subject: PLEASE FORD, TELL US IT'S ONLY A BAD DREAM

Today, I saw a preview training brochure for the 1999 Super-duty F-XXX
Series pickup and in the small preview photo(front view) it looks sadly
familiar. Maybe too familiar, infact. The front grill/lighting area looks
like they copied it directly off of a Dodge Ram Pickup, with the oversize
grill and small headlights. Hopefully, they'll only screw up the looks of
the heavy duty truck series and not our beloved F-Series light
trucks.............The only good thing is that the supercabs will come
standard with 4 doors

later,

Ted
mailto:tlister netcarrier.com

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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 00:42:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: BigDogF250 aol.com
Subject: Re: PLEASE FORD, TELL US IT'S ONLY A BAD DREAM

OH NO! i hope its a bad dream, i already get tons of crap about how ford
copied the rams,

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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 00:07:55 -0500
From: Jerad Heffner
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Other designs submitted for window sticker

The Truck Suck is kinda neat, but I say go for the True Blue!

Also, I'm in favor of the Ranger list, and I would also stay on the full
size list too.

Anybody have a set of decent, sporty looking MudFlaps on their Pre-'93
Ranger? I need some bad, but don't want anything that looks like stupid or
out-of-place

Jerad Heffner
'84 Ranger



ILuvTruks aol.com wrote:

> Joke or not, the truck suck? one is pretty cool
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 01:11:35 -0700
From: "Laura Dale"
Subject: 1989 Ford F-250 Diesel - I Need Help!

My husband has a 1989 Ford F-250 7.3L Diesel that we bought brand new.
He loves his truck, and actually, so do I. He uses it for his
construction/manufacturing
business, so it is very important to us that it work. And, it is our only
vehicle for the next
10 days until I get my brand new Expedition (why don't these things come in
a 5-speed?!)

Anyway, we have been having trouble with our prize vehicle - it does this
failure to start
thing at least once a day. Here is the scenario:

We live in southern California - no hard starting because of weather. It
starts fine first thing
in the morning. Next, we drive around doing things like work and shut the
motor off. If he tries
to start it within, say , 30 -45 minutes from that time, it doesn't start
off. The starter cranks, but
the engine doesn't engage. Next, I have to get my 5'9" blonde frame out of
the truck and push
this beast down the road/drive/whatever so that he can pop the clutch and
start it. Now, I know
that is usually the man's job, but I kind of enjoy just being able to do
it, so he's really not a
pig. I'm actually getting tired of this charade, though, because sometimes
I do wear dresses
to work, as I teach 1st grade and my children find it amusing to see me
pushing this truck around.

We have done the following that I am aware of:
It has spent at least 6 different nights in mechanic prison doing time for
its crime.
We have replaced the glo-plugs,
We have adjusted the timing on the fuel pump?
We have replaced the fuel pump because it was discovered this last time
that the pressure drops
to 3 instead of the usual 6-8 when the failure occurs.
We have done a couple of other things, which I can't remember and Horst
(the husband and Ford
Truck enthusiast) is asleep right now so I can't ask him.

Still, we weep....

I hate to beg, but does anyone have another suggestion as to what would be....

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