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fordtrucks80up-digest Friday, October 3 1997 Volume 01 : Number 144



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In this issue:

Fw: Velvet-Ride Spring Shackles ["jlohse" ]
Re: 1999 F-250 HD+ specs [Kent Premo ]
re: exh. manifold gasket ["Stephen M. Brown"
Re: 2.73 to 4.10 gears in a 2.3L Ranger [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bo]
Re: F-350 GVWR ratings [John Yee ]
Re: 1999 F-250 HD+ specs [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #141 [Mobleaudio aol.com]
ADMIN: Other designs submitted for window sticker [Ken Payne
E4OD experts -- ADVICE ["Stephen M. Brown" ]
Re: Transmission Leak ["C. E. White" ]
Re: ADMIN: Other designs submitted for window sticker ["Ryan Penner"
ADMIN: Possible new list [Ken Payne ]
FW: Ford trucks posting [Gary Snook ]
Re: ADMIN: Other designs submitted for window sticker [Jordan
Re: ADMIN: Possible new list [Jordan ]
Adding Gauges [Jordan ]
Re: exh. manifold gasket [ILuvTruks aol.com]
Re: ADMIN: Other designs submitted for window sticker [ILuvTruks aol.com]
Re: Oil Filters ?... [Joe Maleski ]
Re: F-350 GVWR ratings [Joe Maleski ]

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 06:02:07 -0700
From: "jlohse"
Subject: Fw: Velvet-Ride Spring Shackles

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Subject: Velvet-Ride Spring Shackles




I have a 96 Ford 350 Dually. I read a Trailer Boats article concering =
the Velvet-Ride
Spring Shackles. The comments were positive.=20
Has anyone bought this product??
What were the results???.=20
Was it difficult to put on????


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I have a 96 Ford 350 Dually. I read a =
Trailer Boats=20
article concering the Velvet-Ride

Spring Shackles. The comments were =
positive.

Has anyone bought this product??

What were the results???.

Was it difficult to put on????



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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 08:25:26 -0500
From: Kent Premo
Subject: Re: 1999 F-250 HD+ specs

At 05:58 PM 10/2/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Somebody clear this up once and forall. Are these gonna be 98s or 99s
>????
>Very confusing having some people call them 98s when were talking about
>99s. Or
>vice versa.
>
>Kent Premo wrote:
>
>> Josh,
>>
>> I'm sure you will be a very popular fellow. If you can, please provide more
>> about the F-250 options with regard to cab/beds, especially as they relate
>> to the availability of the snow plow prep package. The 1997 250 light duty
>> doesn't allow snow plow prep with super cab. Should I have any reason to
>> hope that the 1998 250 "super duty" will? I haven't looked much into the
>> 1997 250HD offerings since I'm keen on the restyling.
>>
>> Kent

Sorry, I meant 1998 250 light duty, 1999 250 "super duty", and still don't
know model year for current 250HD offerings.

Kent

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:04:18 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Brown"
Subject: re: exh. manifold gasket

I don't know about all Ford's, but on my 1995 351, there were no exhaust
manifold gaskets. There are now, cuz I put headers on, but the stock
manifolds had no gaskets.

BTW, anyone need a pair of exhaust manifolds in excellent shape?

steve



> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 14:55:31 -0400 (EDT)
> From: MFlem94890 aol.com
> Subject: exh. manifold gasket
>
> I have a 1988 F250 king cab long bed, Had a ford dealer work on my truck,
> comes to find out, they didn't put a exh.manifold gasket on it. I've
heard
> you don't really need one, is this true,
>

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 09:34:38 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: 2.73 to 4.10 gears in a 2.3L Ranger

On Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:42:20 -0400 "Lare/Eric" writes:
>I went with 4.10's with 31" (soon to be 32") tires on my '94 Splash
>Ext.
>Cab with the 4.0 L. The truck originally came with 3.27's and 235/75
>tires. I'm slightly lower in final gearing than stock (about 10 to
>12% -
>depending on tire pressure) and I've actually noticed very little
>change in
>my gas mileage. I drive about 50% hi-way, 20% city, and 30% moderate
>off-road.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Eric S.


Thanks for the tip. I think Im going to go with the 4.10's. Ill get
most of my money back anyway if I like the gears and If I dont like em',
Ill swap them back, and sell the rear end to help pay for some 3.73's.

Bob

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:43:23 -0700
From: John Yee
Subject: Re: F-350 GVWR ratings

At 09:22 PM 10/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Dan,
>
>Good News! Ford offers a '99 F-350 supercab 4x4 with single or dual
>rear wheels with an 8' box.
>
>Single wheel GVWR: 9700#
>Dual Wheel GVWR: 11000#
>
>If you want cab and box dimensions, just ask.

For those that can't wait to see a 1999 Ford brochure, I've found that the
Dodge 98 Ram brochure is a pretty interesting read. If you study the Ram
brochure, and figure that Ford will "raise the bar" across the board, you
can start to get a good idea of the specifics that Ford will be offering for
the 1999 Trucks.

In addition to the good info that Josh has been sharing, you get a clear picture
that Ford is gunning for big-time bragging rights. To be clear; I'm not
trying to start a Dogde vs. Ford war.

Additionally , 1998 prices are available for the Dodge trucks, (kbb.com)
so you can get a ball park on the prices, that you can bet are going to
be competitive with Ford.

Some samples:

v10 trailer/5th wheel tow capacities are similar or better than Dodge.
model,bed, cab combinations are better or on par with Dodge
6 speed manual vs. 5 speed manual
F350 GVWR is 500 lbs more than Dodge Ram 3500.
PTO option now offered on Ford.
Possibility of Intercooler on PS (which is showing up on Dodge).
stuff like that...

Happy reading.

- -john

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:32:29, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: 1999 F-250 HD+ specs

Kent,

The F150 and F250 under 8500# GVWR are 1998's. The new "SuperDuty
Series" are for 1999. There are no 1998 F-250 HD series.

Josh

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:32:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mobleaudio aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #141

im getting desperate, so i figured that this was a great place to look for
info. i live in northern new jersey and i'm looking for another bronco( in
addition to my 86 and 88). here's my problem, it has to be an automatic, in
reliable running condition, prefferably with air conditioning, power
steering, power brakes, and it HAS to be around $1,000 or less. it has to be
reliable transportation as i am going to let my girlfriend drive it as her
daily driver. thanks to all

leslie
mobleaudio aol.com
86 bronco I-6
88 bronco f.i. v-8 4" lift 33"
86 trans am mild custom
78 caprice parts car
77 impala street sleeper project
69 camaro in boxes

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:29:42 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Other designs submitted for window sticker

I've received the following two suggestions for the window
static:

" My Veins Run True Ford Blue,
www.ford-trucks.com "

+---------+ (that's a poor-man's ASCII
Tried, True and | F O R D | Blue representation of a Ford
[ ]-------[ ] backend, the actual design
www.ford-trucks.com would be scanned and outlined)

Both are better than the current:
Ford Truck Fan?
www.ford-trucks.com

I also received:

Truck suck? Should've bought Ford...
www.ford-trucks.com

Though I suspect the submission was supposed to be a joke.

Let me know what everyone thinks, perhaps this should go to a
vote? If so, printing will be delayed by a day or two (press
time is supposed to be Monday.) Also, I'm going to check to
see if a Ford blue color will show up through window tint.
If it does, the sticker will change to Ford blue.


Ken

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:26:07 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Brown"
Subject: E4OD experts -- ADVICE

Anybody try a Banks Transcommand or a JET shift command for the E4OD?

They wire in between the EEC & transmission & adjust shift firmness
electronically. Both are supposedly compatible with any valve body
upgrades. The JET Shift Command has 4 settings, while the Banks just has
on/off.

I'd be interested to hear any experience with these gizmos...especially to
see if the EEC-IV can learn its way around em. I don't believe it could,
cuz it's not in the closed loop feedback...kind of a one way deal to
shift...

Let us hear!

steve

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 17:08:50 -0400
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: Re: Transmission Leak

Croth2 aol.com wrote:
>
> I have a 87 F-150 with a straight 6, and a 4-speed transmission. Recently I
> have been parking it on concrete and I have noticed that is is leaking a
> small amount of fluid from the front of the transmission. I have been
> driving it every day for about a month like this, and every morning I find a
> small puddle underneath it. My repair manual says that it most likely is the
> extension housing oil seal, or the speedometer oil seal, It also says that it
> could be engine oil blown back on the transmission, but it leaves a puddle
> just sitting over night. It is leaking where the transmission is bolted
> onto the engine. What is wrong with it? How long can I continue to drive
> on it like this? How difficult or how expensive is it to fix? Any response
> would be appreciated----->Tim

Is it engine oil (usually black) or transmission fluid, usually red or
redish brown? If it engine oil it would be an engine problem, most
likely the rear main seal. If it is transmission fluid I would quess it
was the seal on the transmission input shaft.

Ed

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:52:53 -0600
From: "Ryan Penner"
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Other designs submitted for window sticker

I want the original one!!!!

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> From: Ken Payne
> To: fordtrucks listservice.net; fordtrucks61-79 listservice.net;
fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: ADMIN: Other designs submitted for window sticker
> Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 2:29 PM
>
> I've received the following two suggestions for the window
> static:
>
> " My Veins Run True Ford Blue,
> www.ford-trucks.com "
>
> +---------+ (that's a poor-man's ASCII
> Tried, True and | F O R D | Blue representation of a Ford
> [ ]-------[ ] backend, the actual design
> www.ford-trucks.com would be scanned and outlined)
>
> Both are better than the current:
> Ford Truck Fan?
> www.ford-trucks.com
>
> I also received:
>
> Truck suck? Should've bought Ford...
> www.ford-trucks.com
>
> Though I suspect the submission was supposed to be a joke.
>
> Let me know what everyone thinks, perhaps this should go to a
> vote? If so, printing will be delayed by a day or two (press
> time is supposed to be Monday.) Also, I'm going to check to
> see if a Ford blue color will show up through window tint.
> If it does, the sticker will change to Ford blue.
>
>
> Ken
>
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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:41:27 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Possible new list

The Explorer list is now defunct.....

Someone gave me a suggestion that we start a Ford SUV list.
This list would include all Ford SUVs and would not "compete"
with the 1980+ list. There would most likely be some overlap
of membership between it and the 1980+ list.

We have 600+ members on the 1980+ list, about 100 more than the
1979 and older list had when it split into 61-79 and 60- lists.
This list certainly has enough traffic to support it.
Additionally, the Explorer newsgroup is rather large so I believe
there would be a large audience for the new list.

Anyways, just throwing this idea out for discussion. If there's
a serious desire for a Ford SUV list, it'll go to a vote.

Ken

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:22:54 -0500
From: Gary Snook
Subject: FW: Ford trucks posting

> From what I read on this service, and my experience with my 94 =
>Ranger 4.0 (Avg 17 - 18 MPG) I'd say leave good enough alone!!!!
>
>gsnook kca.net
>
>Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 07:27:29 -0500
>From: David F McCutcheon
>Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #137 -Reply
>
>My 96 F-350 crew cab dually with Powerstroke, 4:11 rear axle and 5 speed =
>manual gets
>15.0 - 15.5 around town, 16.0 on the road solo, and 11.0 on the road =
>towing my 7500 lb
>31' travel trailer. Doesn't seem to matter if its flat like here in =
>South Louisiana or up in the
>Colorado mountains. It's got 30,000 miles on it now and doesn't seem to =
>have changed
>any with time, maybe a 1/2 mpg increase if any.
>
>Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:00:02 EDT
>From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
>Subject: 2.73 to 4.10 gears in a 2.3L Ranger
>
>A friend of mine that works for Ford knew that I wanted to put some new
>3.45's or 3.73's rear end gears in my truck. Well last night he called
>me and told me that he could get me a whole rear end that came out of a
>Windstar that had 4.10's and had less than 30,000 miles on it for $150.=20
>He said that the reason why the took the rear end out was because the
>owner kept complaining about it and the dealership basically sold him a
>new rear end when all it really needed was to be shimed. (that's how =
>guys
>like me get parts cheap).
>
>Anyway, its a pretty good deal and I could swap the gears and sell the
>rear end and get my money back, but Im not so sure about going with 4.10
>gears in my truck.
>
>My question is, how much more gas am I going to be sucking if I go from
>2.73's to 4.10's?=20
>
>Silent Bob;
> My advice is don't go that high. I have 3.53 gears in my 94, and =
>the mileage is bad, and the RPM too high at highway speeds. Also, you =
>don't mention, but you probabally have a 4 speed (no OD), and this will =
>also make a huge difference.
>
>gsnook kca.net
>
>Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:00:03 EDT
>From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
>Subject: Re: Ranger Pickup Truck
>
>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 21:17:37 -0600 prsr213 ameritech.net writes:
>>I currently own a Ford F150 regular cab XL, with a 8ft box and 2wd, a
>>'93 model. Has anyone had any experience with Ford Ranger's? I have
>>been looking at the new '98's, and one that caught my eye was a reg.=20
>>cab
>>4wd with the 4.0 V6 engine. Thinking about downsizing because I just
>>don't need that big of a truck anymore. Any info. would be=20
>>appreciated.
>>Thank You.
>
>
>My 95 works great for what I use it for. A friend of mine that works =
>for
>Ford is going to let me test drive the new 98. He says they drive a lot
>better, but the older models are a little bit better for moderate off
>road driving.
>
>Bob;
> Ranger is a great truck, however for the regular cab, you get 7 ft =
>box - the super cab yeilds 6 ft. The point is drywall or plywood won't =
>fit in either one! Go for the super cab - you won't regret it.
>
>gsnook kca.net
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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:39:24 -0500
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Other designs submitted for window sticker

>Truck suck? Should've bought Ford...
> www.ford-trucks.com
>
>Though I suspect the submission was supposed to be a joke.
Ummmm... I'm going to have to vote for this one. (quite seriously
actually) and count me in for one (assuming it will show up on my all
black with windows extremely tinted (possibly past legality, but I didn't
do it) explorer.

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:41:00 -0500
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Possible new list

>Anyways, just throwing this idea out for discussion. If there's
>a serious desire for a Ford SUV list, it'll go to a vote.
>
>Ken
I'd really like this, being an explorer owner and all

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:43:35 -0500
From: Jordan
Subject: Adding Gauges

Hey I was wondering if anyone can tell me how difficult it would be to add
a few gauges to my 93 explorer. I would like to add an anmeter, water temp
gauge, and oil pressure/ temp gauge. Would these be difficult to wire
and hook up, would it be worth the time for the mostly novel functions I
want them for???
Thanx, Jordan Dean

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:58:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: ILuvTruks aol.com
Subject: Re: exh. manifold gasket

I need some new exhaust manifolds, but I don't think they'll fit my 2.9 :-)

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:02:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: ILuvTruks aol.com
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Other designs submitted for window sticker

Joke or not, the truck suck? one is pretty cool

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:58:38 -0700
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: Re: Oil Filters ?...

OK - I give up!!!

I promise to not use Fram filters anymore if someone can only give me the
replacement filter part number (motocraft?) for a Fram PH977A.

Thanks!

Joe

>by price, but tend to shy away from brands like Fram. There are much better
>brands available at fair pricing with fleet/volume discount buying.

************************************
Joe Maleski
Santa Clara, CA
1994 F-250HD SuperCab, 460/5-spd, The Silver Camel

mailto:jmaleski auspex.com

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:04:23 -0700....

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