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fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, September 23 1997 Volume 01 : Number 128



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In this issue:

learn to weld [tfam swbell.net]
EEC IV [dean etgn14.webo.dg.com (Baruffi)]
Re: Three questions for the Welders in the group. ["Bob Leifer"
Re: Tire Question [Jerad Heffner ]
Re: EEC IV [droberts MIT.EDU (D Robertson)]
Re: Three questions for the Welders in the group. [Filip M Gieszczykiewic]
Re: Source for Technical Service Bulletins [James Federline
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #127 ["Stephen M. Brown"
FW: 5 speed for my truck? [Ron Madurski ]
Fuel Filters & Transmissions [Steven McCullough
Emissions device info ["Dave Resch"]
Re: '98 Ranger-what do ya think? ["Jim Bielecki"
Late 80's OD 4 speed in F150's [Jim Hodgers ]
Re: '98 Ranger-what do ya think? [Dave Armbruster
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #127 [Rinerjm aol.com]
Re: FW: 5 speed for my truck? [Joe Maleski ]
Lists are going down for 15-45 minutes for changeover. [Ken Payne
HO or not? [yhtlines surfari.net]
All lists back up. Please read [Ken Payne ]

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:26:42 -0700
From: tfam swbell.net
Subject: learn to weld

Kieth, In reply to your question on learning to weld, I believe that for
hobby purposes the best way might be to find a few good books on welding
at the library and one purcase to keep. find a supply of small pieces of
scrap steel (1 or 2 inches wide by a few inches long ) get access to a
welder, borrow rent or etc., and practice what you read. test your test
welds by putting the pieces in a vise and hammering them apart and
checking the weld for strength. to check for good penetration, hacksaw
accross the weld on your test piece to see. This should allow you to
develop good basic skills and make any paid for classes more
effective. L. D. in K.C. 97 F-250 HD 4X4 52
F-1 50 F-1 panel 95 e-250 company van

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 07:38:23 -0400
From: dean etgn14.webo.dg.com (Baruffi)
Subject: EEC IV

I was wondering if someone could help me. I just purchased a 1997 F-250 HD SC short bed
with a 7.5L and believe that it has the EEC IV PCM. Can someone confirm this? Is it
true that since my GVW is over 8000 lbs that OBD II is not used? I want to get a scan tool
for this vehicle but the auto Xtray 240 says it only goes up to 1995 Fords. Will it work
on my 1997 F250 HD as well? The Xray 240 is on sale for $199.99 with Ford connector included.
I just want to make sure it will work on my truck before I dish out the money.

Thanks in advance.


Dean Baruffi mailto: dean etgn14.webo.dg.com
Holland, MA. Work: 508-898-7369

1997 F-250 HD 4x4 extended cab, short bed, 7.5L :


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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 07:50:52 -0400
From: "Bob Leifer"
Subject: Re: Three questions for the Welders in the group.

Hi Keith,

In response to your post on learning to weld: Learning to weld was something
I
was able to do with some (just a little) over the shoulder coaching by an
experienced welder when I worked in an industrial job. I would not consider
my self an excellent welder, but just a "back yard mechanic" type, ( no
insult intended to all those, including myself mechanics, who get things
done without having to go to factory training classes) with good
success. If you want to really learn how to weld professionally, I guess you
COULD go to one of the college or other adult education courses you
mentioned. That would be much cheaper than going to a regular welding
school. I am not 100% sure of the results, but the adult courses I am
familiar with, the instructor is an experienced trade person usually
supplementing his usual income. You could also just get a welding machine
and some rods, scrap pieces of steel and with the machine's owners manual,
or library books, just learn on your own! With practice, and trying to break
your welds apart to test them for strength with a hammer while holding your
test pieces in a vise or something else to support one piece an not the
other.

Anyhow, Keith, I have a used AC adjustable welder for up to 230 Amps, which
is suitable for almost any welding you would normally do, except for very
thin sheet metal. I believe for the sheet metal welding, unless you are
highly experienced at arc welding, you would do better with the welding tip
on the Oxy Acetylene torch. My ac welder is old, but is in almost new
condition. It is by Sears. I had used it in the past for some home projects,
like building a trailer and a log splitter, so it really only has a few
hours on it. I live on Long Island, New York, and if you live local to me,
then it might be a practical deal to make. The welder is pretty heavy, and
shipping it off might cost more than I am looking to get for the welder
itself ( $75 ). Mesa Arizona? guess not close enough? Let me know if you
have any interest in it.
I am at the stage in my life where I don't really want to be building things
any more, and if I had to, then I could just do it at work.

Take Care,

Bob Leifer


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From: Keith Srb
To: 'fordtrucks80up listservice.net' ;
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Cc: 'Keith Srb'
Date: Monday, September 22, 1997 4:07 PM
Subject: Three questions for the Welders in the group.



>1. Where is the best place to go to learn how to weld? I know some of the
>community colleges offer welding classes, but are they any good?
>2. Ball Park Figure, how much money will it take to get a welder that can
weld
>boxing plates onto the frame as well as welding body panels in place.
>3. Ball Park Figure, Cutting Torch and any other miscellaneous supplies I
will
>need.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
>Mesa, AZ
>1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
>1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
>1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side.
>1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
>My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two
Wheels!"
>
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 07:23:30 -0500
From: Jerad Heffner
Subject: Re: Tire Question

Take a look at Petersen's 4Wheel&Off Rad magazine for October '97. They have a
Tall Tire Pros & Cons: what works - what doesn't when you run big meats. PLus,
all-terrain vs mud tread AND wheel sizing secrets. It also talks about whell
backsapcing tips and has a good comparo between BFG tires (All-terrain, Mud
Terrain, Trail, Baja, and Sport) . Anyway, check it out if you can.

Jerad Heffner
'84 Ranger 4x4

JWater3961 aol.com wrote:

> A bit of a tire question I am looking for tires for my 1995 F150 4X2 and am
> looking to get the widest and biggest tires I can have I do not have a lift
> or anything special like that I was thinking about some 31X12.5 or so how
> does that sound some feedback would be nice
> Thanks
> >From Boston
> Home of the Ford
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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:02:21 +0100
From: droberts MIT.EDU (D Robertson)
Subject: Re: EEC IV

Dear Dean :

Look at the emissions sticker under the hood , I was checking out my
friends 97 ,F-150 w/4.6 and it stated it had the OBD 2.

Dave
Tewksbury , MA

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 09:28:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
Subject: Re: Three questions for the Welders in the group.

You (Bob Leifer) wrote:
[zap]
> Anyhow, Keith, I have a used AC adjustable welder for up to 230 Amps, which
> is suitable for almost any welding you would normally do, except for very
> thin sheet metal. I believe for the sheet metal welding, unless you are
> highly experienced at arc welding, you would do better with the welding tip
> on the Oxy Acetylene torch.
[zap]

Greetings. I was in a similar situation and was told by reliable sources
> (ie. friend who runs a body-repair shop) that gas welding introduces
"seeds" of oxidation to the weld itself. Unless you can guarantee some
sprt of moisture-proof environment (which in a car body, with all its
stress points and weaknesses and hitting rocks you can NOT), your weld
will often rust from the INSIDE out. This is bad. I was advised that the
only way was a MIG welder... and that's what I am [borrowing and] using.
I did get a used welder's leather "jacket" and a LCD SpeedGlass helmet
and good gloves. With maybe 40-60 hours of practice, I can say that my
welds are probably as good as the repair shop.... where the guy may be
a LOT better than I am but he's on a schedule and can't "care" as much
as I do. I'm welding up a Bronco II :-)

Take care.

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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:33:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: James Federline
Subject: Re: Source for Technical Service Bulletins

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/servicemmy1.cfm

The NHTSA TSB site has the summary line included (or parts thereof), and
sometimes you can infer more info about a TSB than is on alldata.

- -Jim

On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, Joe Maleski wrote:

> Well... Not really. What Chuck is asking for is the *text* of the
> bulletins, not just the titles. For example, alldata lists two service
> bulletins on my truck as:
>
> 81. ATRATB290 JAN 95 Pump Modification
> 82. ATRATB287 JAN 95 Pump Upgrade
>
> So the 64K question is, how can I find the full text of these two bulletins
> to see if either one of these fixes will solve my pesky vapor lock problem?
>
> Joe (upset because I have to drive the honda instead of the F-250)
>
> >Yes, http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.alldata.com/
> >
> >
> >Charles A. Biggs wrote:
> >
> >> Can Technical Service Bulletins for Ford trucks be found on the web? I
> >> have thenumbers of the specific TBS's that I need but I cannot find the
> >> text for them anywhere on the net.
>
> ************************************
> Joe Maleski


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