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fordtrucks80up-digest Sunday, September 21 1997 Volume 01 : Number 125



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In this issue:

Re: Spongy Brakes ... -- me too ["S. Spaulding"
P.S.O.M. [G333khz aol.com]
Re: 2.9 L EFI engine [ILuvTruks aol.com]
RE: F350 Front Diff Limited Slip [jlester naxs.com (Jason Lester)]
Re: Spongy Brakes ... -- me too [Sheila Goodson ]
Re: 83 Ranger Tranny Woes ["Tom L." ]
'83 Ranger Starter/Flywheel Noise ["Tom L." ]
ADMIN: List split information [Ken Payne ]
Retrofit Fuel Injection And Intake Manifolds ["Steven S. Neumann"
hesitation ["John W. McCleney Jr." ]
Re: Spongy Brakes ... -- me too ["C. E. White" ]
ADMIN: New list [Ken Payne ]
Re: Spongy Brakes ... -- me too [zeb utalk.org (Lamar Zabielski)]

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Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 08:42:52 -0700
From: "S. Spaulding"
Subject: Re: Spongy Brakes ... -- me too

Hopefully you bench bled the master cylinder before you installed it.

The bleeder for the ABS is located on the actuator inside the left frame
rail just behind the front axle. Follow your brake lines, and you will
find it.

One problem I had with my truck was that the wheel cylinders on both
sides were frozen. My braking was terrible, and the pedal felt weird.
This was my first experience with frozen wheel cylinders, although I've
seen plenty of frozen calipers on other vehicles.

Steve

Lamar Zabielski wrote:
>
> Hi All, I just had my '88 F-250 HD SC 7.3L 4WD checked out for suspension
> > and brakes. They said I needed a master cylinder, along with $700 of other
> work. Well I r&r the mc, using the husband/wife bleeding system, and it's
> still the same too. ( Engine off there is no compression or loss, rock hard,
> while starting hard, then upon starting the pedal fades away)
>
> Can't lock em up either, even in rain today. And my ABS orange light is on,
> been on since I got it 2k miles ago.
>
> Haynes' book says there is an ABS valve to be bled (pg 9-16 11.7). Where is it?
>
> Or is it the power assist failing?
>
> Will do the check procedure at pg 9-17 12.12
>
> If that doesn't do it ... gonna let the pros do it!
>
> 430 miles till the odometer flips to zero, then it will be missed for 2-3
> weeks as it gets its heart rebuilt and limbs tuned up.
>
> zya, Zeb
> NE Boulder County, Colorado
>
> ==========================================
>
> At 05:08 PM 9/19/97 -0700, fordtrucks80up ListService.net wrote:
> >I don't know about Matthew, but my husband who is having the same problem
> >with an 1989 F250 460 did do the old-fashioned, two-man bleeding and he
> >still can't resolve this problem. Have replaced everything. Some things
> >twice. Has anyone out there had this problem and figured out how to
> >resolve it?
> >
> >S. Spaulding wrote:
> >>
> >> Matthew,
> >>
> >> When you bled the brakes, did you use a one-man bleeder? If you did,
> >> try it the old-fashioned way, with two people.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> Matthew Miller wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I need HELP!! Still have a spongy pedal. All new components from
> >> > calipers, wheel cylinders, pads, shoes, springs, 2 Raybestos master
> >> > cylinders, bled lines till the oil prices went up. Van stops OK but will
> >> > not lock up wheels as it did in the past. Performed engine off test, foot
> >> > on pedal, crank engine power booster test ; according to Ford
> >> > manual-passed. What am I missing? HELP! Thanks, Matt
>
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Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 10:15:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: G333khz aol.com
Subject: P.S.O.M.

My 1993 F 150 PSOM reads "ERROR" where the milage used to be the speedo
reads 95 mph in any gear foward or reverse I have a replacement my problem
is I need to program it can anyone give me some help???


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Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 14:12:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: ILuvTruks aol.com
Subject: Re: 2.9 L EFI engine
>
On my 86 Bronco II, I had a similar problem. I ran the codes and came back
with all the EGR stuff too. I still have to fix that, but I am starting the
re-build in a few hours and have been planing it so I'll take care of that in
the process. The problem with the idle, however, is your throttle body
probably. use a good can and a half or two of carb cleaner. Also clear the
air passageways really good because they are real important. I actually took
my throttle body off, that helped cleaning it a lot.
If that doesn't help I agree to go for the fuel filter, etc. My codes came
back with a fuel relay problem. That's why my fuel pump was running all the
time and at the wrong pressure. That contributed too. A quick test is to
turn the key to on, not start. after a few seconds the fuel pump should shut
itself off. If it doesn't that is part of the problem aswell.
SURPRISE! On the 2.9 you CAN adjust the idle. It is right there on the
throttle body. It looks like a screw with a spring on it. Right there by
the throttle/cruise cables.
Just a note, you should fix the problem ASAP. Using two feet on an auto can
put a lot of un-needed stress on a trans, even just at a stop light.
As I said I am doing a re-build. I will let y'all know what happened with
the EGR, Fuel relay, etc. Hope it all woks out for us both. Long live the
Bronco II 4x4 (and 2x4's too.)

Clay
1986 Bronco II 4x4 XLT 2.9L
Confederate States of America


>Can someone point me towards a thorough explanation of the computer
>trouble codes for this 1986 vintage machine(2.9L EFI auto w/ac). I've
>been able to follow the procedure to extract the codes(mostly emission
> >stuff..i.e. EGR, MAP sensor etc), but need more info on isolating and
>repairing problems before I start replacing emission parts. The engine
> >accelerates well and is strong, but runs rough at idle in gear at ,for
>instance, a stop light. Raising the idle a bit (with foot on the brake)
>seems to smooth it out but, the idle of course, is controlled by the
>computer and appears to be "un-adjustable" manually. If it wasn't so
>politically and environmentally incorrect, for two cents, I'd start
>stripping all this emissions stuff off the darn thing, even If I had to go
>back to a less efficient ignition system! Thanks to All
>
>Kevin Sharpe
>shak worldnet.att.net
>217-785-5403 Office
>217-785-5282 Fax

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Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 12:01:09 -0400
From: jlester naxs.com (Jason Lester)
Subject: RE: F350 Front Diff Limited Slip

Did you read my post from the factory manuals? The rear Dana 80 offered by
Ford does include a true Detroit Locker. As far as fronts go, I can think
of any application with a true locker in the front. It would be impossible
in most trucks today (Fords being the exception) because of the auto-hubs.
Front lockers require manual hubs.

Jason

You wrote:
>Well, maybe I am remembering wrong. Maybe I read that none came with
>true locking (non-LSD) front differentials. For that matter, anyone
>know when the last time a manufacturer put a true locking rear end on a
>factory vehicle?

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