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fordtrucks80up-digest Friday, September 19 1997 Volume 01 : Number 123



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In this issue:

Re: Air Breather/PCV filter!!!!! ["Lou Guerriero" ]
Re: high octane gas [Bill Funk ]
Re: Ford Motorsports Catalog [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: Injector Cleaners [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: Voting results [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #121 ["Mike Jones"]
RE: F350 Front Diff Limited Slip ["Beaman, James" ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #122 [MadPoodle aol.com]
Front diffs [dean etgn14.webo.dg.com (Baruffi)]
Re: RV CAMS V1 #120 [Gary Gadwa ]
Re: High Octane gas ["C. E. White" ]
Re: Under Drive Pulleys V1 #120 [Gary Gadwa ]
Re: F350 Front Diff Limited Slip ["C. E. White" ]
2.9 L EFI engine ["KLS" ]
Re: 2.9 L EFI engine [Thom Cheney ]
Re: Another Weird Colorado Gas question ["Dave Resch"]
Re: 2.9 L EFI engine [droberts MIT.EDU (D Robertson)]
Re: 2.9 L EFI engine [John Yee ]
Re: 351 Windsor/Cleveland question ["Dave Resch"]

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 07:13:22 -0400
From: "Lou Guerriero"
Subject: Re: Air Breather/PCV filter!!!!!

Hi, Me again...

Still hoping for a response, I will re-post (sorry). I am trying to
find the PCV/Airbreather filter in my 88 Bronco II 2.9L EFI engine. My
Haynes is no help.. the couple of suggestions I've had don't help either.

Starting to wonder if the part really exists.....>

Also, I would vote to go to a small truck/large truck list...

And for the guy who asked... I'm a Canuck... and It will suck to
have to have a VISA to visit my FAMILY in the US.

Maybe I should just get a green card...eheheheh

Later, Lou.

There is nothing so disturbing as the annoyance of a good example: Mark
Twain

WWW: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.easyinternet.net/louisg/
E-mail: loug easyinternet.net
ICQ UIN: 1235438

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:36:26 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: high octane gas

> From: Randy Kindler
> Subject: re: High Octane gas
>
> If your engine doesn't ping, you don't need high octane. All the name
> brand oil companies use the same additives and detergents in regular
> as
> premium. I do have an octane question,though. In Colorado, the octane
> is
> lower than in the rest of the country. (85 reg. - 89 premium) I asked
> a
> gas station guy about this, and he said that at high altitude, less
> octane is necessary. It seems to me that because of the thinner air,
> you
> would want higher octane. Any ideas?
>

He's right.Higher altitude means less air pressure; this is, to the
engine, just like having a mechanical choke in the on position. This
makes the engine run richer, which lowers octane needs.
You guys ask good questions!

Bill Funk

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:14:48, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: Ford Motorsports Catalog

Keith,

You can get a Ford Motorsport Catalog at your local Ford dealer.
Retail value is $5.00

Josh

ps. My blood runs FORD on four, and HARLEY on two, also.

'98 Ranger XLT 4x2 shortbox reg cab 4.0L V6 stick-mine
'66 F-250 4x4 352 V8 4 speed 9400 original miles-dad
'64 Galaxie Conv. 352 auto-dad
'97 Explorer EB SOHC 4.0L-mom
'93 Splash 4.0L 5 speed reg cab-brother
'97 Converson Van 5.4L Triton V8-dad
'95 Harley Dyna Low Rider-I love it
'96 Harley Custom-dad's

I could go into history- but I'd be talking forever.

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:47:50 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: Injector Cleaners

On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 20:24:54 -0700 "S. Spaulding"
writes:
>Charles,
>
>Techron seems pretty aggressive, but I don't think anything compares
>to
>cleaning them with a professional cleaning system that connects
>directly
>to the fuel rail.


I did this to my Ranger once it hit 50K. It made a big difference.

silent.bob juno.com
95 Ranger 2.3L

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:47:49 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: Voting results

On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:15:55 -0400 Ken Payne
writes:

>The issue was whether to split the 1979 & older truck list into
>two lists: 1960 and older/1961-79
>
>Badge wars are bad enough. All of the trucks here are "real."
>I've seen some of the Rangers put to some hard work and I'm sure
>their owners are just as proud of them as I am of my truck.

Thank you. I am proud of all Ford trucks new & old, small or big, and
this is why I have subscribed to the FTE list.

silent.bob juno.com
95 Ranger 2.3L 65K, and hard at work.

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:10:47 -0400
From: "Mike Jones"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #121

>If your engine doesn't ping, you don't need high octane. All the name
>brand oil companies use the same additives and detergents in regular as
>premium. I do have an octane question,though. In Colorado, the octane is
>lower than in the rest of the country. (85 reg. - 89 premium) I asked a
>gas station guy about this, and he said that at high altitude, less
>octane is necessary. It seems to me that because of the thinner air, you
>would want higher octane. Any ideas?

Because the air density is lower as you go up in altitude (shorter column
of atmosphere pushing down) your engine's cylinders do not fill as
completely (volumetric efficiency decreases) and so cannot develop the same
brake mean effective pressure (BMEP) as it can at lower altitudes. Which
means it is not as prone to detonation, and so does not have the same
octane requirements it would at lower altitude. The owner's manual for my
Expedition, though, specifically recommends against using 85 octane fuel
even at higher altitudes. Apparently it breathes well enough that Ford is
concerned. (we have 85 octane fuel here in Idaho, too.)

Supercharged engines, including most turbos should never use 85 octane
fuel. They are not affected nearly as much (or in some cases at all until
you get way up there) by altitude.

Mike J.

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:11:18 -0500
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: F350 Front Diff Limited Slip

> naxs.com[SMTP:jlester naxs.com] wrote:
>
>A quick look in the 1997 F250/F350 Powertrain/Drivetrain manual shows that
>there is no listing for a front locker in any of the models. Both the
>10.25" Ford, Dana 60, and Dana 80 rear axles have lockers available. The
>10.25" and Dana 60 are of the limited slip type while the Dana 80 is a true
>Detroit Locker. Neither the Dana 50 or Dana 60 front axle have front
>lockers available from the factory. They are available through the
>aftermarket.
>
>Jason

This is getting a little off charter, but I seem to remember reading in
rec.autos.4x4 that no 4 wheel drive vehicle has ever been offered from
any factory with a front LSD or locker. Can anyone think of exceptions?
It sems like there would be a few.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
Houston, Texas

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:15:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: MadPoodle aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #122

In a message dated 9/19/97 6:05:55,
owner-fordtrucks80up-digest ListService.net wrote:

>

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.edelbrock.com has complete online catalog and info......

Scott

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:30:31 -0400
From: dean etgn14.webo.dg.com (Baruffi)
Subject: Front diffs

Jason wrote:

>Jason

This is getting a little off charter, but I seem to remember reading in
rec.autos.4x4 that no 4 wheel drive vehicle has ever been offered from
any factory with a front LSD or locker. Can anyone think of exceptions?
It sems like there would be a few.


Yes, ford offered a LSD for its front dana 44 on the F-150. I ordered
a 1995 F150 4x4 with the 302 and got a limited slip in the front axle. I
verified it was a limited slip by jacking up both front wheels and then urning
one. The other wheel went in the same dircetion (once the hubs were locked).


I have a question about my 1997 F-250 HD 4x4. Will a dana 60 F-350 monobeam
front axle bolt to my F250 HD frame with no mods? I want to convert
my F-250 HD to an F-350. I was unable to get an F350 extended cab short bed
so I ordered the F250 HD. But I like the dana 60 solid front on the F-350.
Any ideas?

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:41:51 -0600
From: Gary Gadwa
Subject: Re: RV CAMS V1 #120

For those inquiring about RV Cams. Crane's Compu-Cam for Fords is what I
installed in my 1990 351 4x4 F-250HD Supercab. The Torque gains are very
noticeable. However, my cam change is coupled with alot of other
modifications. I'd like to see an actual Dynamometer Torque and
Horepower test with the Crane Compu-Cam. Anybody know of a Web site that
may have conducted such tests???

GARY GADWA
STANLEY IDAHO
1990 F 250 4x4 Supercab
1996 Explorer
1931 Victoria

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:50:00 -0400
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: Re: High Octane gas

Randy Kindler wrote:

> I do have an octane question,though. In Colorado, the octane is
> lower than in the rest of the country. (85 reg. - 89 premium) I asked a
> gas station guy about this, and he said that at high altitude, less
> octane is necessary. It seems to me that because of the thinner air, you
> would want higher octane. Any ideas?

Spark knocking is related to peak compression pressure (among other
things). If you have lower atmospheric pressure you should have lower
peak pressures. So I guess what the attendant told you would be true.

Ed
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:52:19 -0600
From: Gary Gadwa
Subject: Re: Under Drive Pulleys V1 #120

Dave Baldwin's questions about Under Drive Pulleys.
Well--- for what its worth I've been running a three some of under drive
pulleys on my 1990 351 F250HD 4x4 Supercab for slightly over 2 years
now. I haul a 3000lb. 9 ft 10 inch camper and have never had an
overheating or water pump problem. Even in places like Death
Valley....However, I will mention that the Alternator (Mines a 80/100
amp) will turn noticably slower thus output voltage is down some
especially a concern if you're running alot of options and charging a
couple of batteries.
Dyno tests indicate a 6 to 10 HP gain to the rear wheels....I think
this simple modification is worth it.

GARY GADWA
STANLEY IDAHO
1990 F250 4x4 Supercab
1996 Explorer
1931 Victoria

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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 12:08:01 -0400
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: Re: F350 Front Diff Limited Slip

Beaman, James wrote:

> This is getting a little off charter, but I seem to remember reading in
> rec.autos.4x4 that no 4 wheel drive vehicle has ever been offered from....

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