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fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, September 17 1997 Volume 01 : Number 116



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In this issue:

Re: exhaust ["Steve Irving" ]
Re: Good News! (nitpick) ["Steve Irving" ]
5th wheel camper [Frank Nesbitt ]
Re: mailorder K&N? [Dave Armbruster ]
2.0 PCV [Cactus Jack ]
Re: 2.0 PCV ["Andy Bell" ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #114 [Randy Kindler ]
Re: exhaust [Charles Cohn ]
Exhaust ["Travis Wade" ]
K&N HP or Mileage? [hunter cyberstreet.com (Michael Kisielewski)]
Re: 1997 vs 1999 F350 CrewCab7.3L powerstroke [William Street
Re: Spray-on bed liners [" Pono & Mele" ]

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:38:53 -0700
From: "Steve Irving"
Subject: Re: exhaust

If it's clean fresh water....it's condensation, and nothing to worry about.
If it's coolant.....uh oh......blown head gasket or cracked head.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Travis Wade
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 1:10 PM
Subject: exhaust



> I keep finding water puddled in the end of my exhaust pipe. Any possible
>causes?
>
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:42:22 -0700
From: "Steve Irving"
Subject: Re: Good News! (nitpick)

Hmmmmm......while you apparantly have been an English teacher all your life
so love to correct spelling or grammar errors.......I've spent the past 27
years out in the shop, I didn't intend, nor imply a lesson on how the stupid
thing works.....just made an attempt to call it by name. Sorry.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Good News! (nitpick)



>You (Steve Irving) wrote:
>> From: John Thomas Taylor
>> Subject: Re: Good News!
>>
>> >what the hell is TPS?
>>
>> Throttle Positioning Sensor
>
>Greetings. This is a nitpick but saying "positionING" implies
>some sort of "action" on its part. It's just a PASSIVE sensor
>that converts the angular opening of the throttle plate into
>an electrical signal for consumption by the computer.
>
>Tis all :-)
>
>Take care.
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 19:45:43 -0400
From: Frank Nesbitt
Subject: 5th wheel camper

In response to your questions concerning the setup of my truck here it is Don.

The rear is a 3.08....crunching the numbers I come up with a GCWR of 9,000
lbs. Deducting the weight of the truck, I figure that I have about 5,400
lbs to play with. I have found several 23-25 foot trailers under 5k lbs.
Keep in mind that this is not a truck that I will be driving from coast to
coast in. We both are working and will probably spend about 4 weekends and
2 weeks a year in just around the southeast.

I was suprised to find that a automatic can pull/carry more of a load than
a manual. My owners guide shows in the back where the GCWR of a 302 w/3.08
rear 4X2 automatic is 9,000 whereas the manual is 2,550 lbs LESS!!!! Does
anyone know why such a wide differance?

Keep the faith
Frank Nesbitt

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 17:56:07 -0600
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: Re: mailorder K&N?

>Dan Simoes wrote:
>>
>> Is there a place that will mailorder a K&N filter for a Ranger?
>> I know lots of Euro places, but nothing for Fords, and my local
>> auto parts place is closing down.
>>
>
>Try Summit racing (800) 230-3030
>
>TC

I bought mine at a 4X4 specialty shop, they stocked K&Ns for just about
every brand of truck. It also was the exact same price as Summit wanted.

Dave

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 20:32:24 -0400
From: Cactus Jack
Subject: 2.0 PCV

On the subject of PCV valves, does anyone know where the thing is on a 1987
2.0 engine?????? I've looked all over, and can't find it anywhere.

Thanks, Randy
" You may contemplate this, on the Tree of Woe"

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 20:43:20 -0500
From: "Andy Bell"
Subject: Re: 2.0 PCV

It should be on the left (drivers side) of the engine -- almost under the
carburetor---- there will be a big vent tube coming out of the side of the
block it is in the end of the big hose where it turns into a vacuum line
- ----- this is assuming you mean the 2.0 in a ranger.

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> From: Cactus Jack
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: 2.0 PCV
> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 7:32 PM
>
>
> On the subject of PCV valves, does anyone know where the thing is on a
1987
> 2.0 engine?????? I've looked all over, and can't find it anywhere.
>
> Thanks, Randy
> " You may contemplate this, on the Tree of Woe"
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 20:04:20 -0400
From: Randy Kindler
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #114

fordtrucks80up-digest wrote: ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:56:12 -0700
> From: "Jim Lohse"
> Subject: 1996 f350 460 Exhaust, auto, Calif. Model, Dually,
>
> I would like to convert my stock muffler to a system similar to "Banks".
> However, in order to save some $$$ I would like to have a 3" muffler
> tubing put on from the rear of the cat. conv. to the exhaust tip. The
> standard muffler appears to be one that is "straight thru" and also a 3"
> diameter tubing. This "standard setup runs around $250.00 for most of the
> muffler shops.
>
> If anyone has tried this setup. What improvement will I see??????
>
> ------------------------------
>I run a 3" from cat to flowmaster muffler with two 21/2" from the muffler back. I also added a K & N filter at the same time. (this is on a 351 F150) Made a big difference. I live at high altitude, and engine really breathes better now. It was an immediate improvement judging by seat of the pants feel. Stock muffler resembles a 30 gallon oil drum - very restrictive. Truck really sounds nice now, too. Not really loud, but as a nice deep rumble to it.

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 22:26:42 -0400
From: Charles Cohn
Subject: Re: exhaust

At 03:05 PM 9/16/97 -0400, you wrote:
> I keep finding water puddled in the end of my exhaust pipe. Any possible
>causes?
>
>
Yes, perfectly normal! Water vapor is a product of combustion, where the
hydrogen atoms in the gasoline combine with the oxygen in the air. The end
of the exhaust pipe is cool enough that the vapor can condense to liquid
water.



Charles Cohn

6311 Mark Trail, Austell, Georgia 30168, USA

(770)944-7510, chasmagc mindspring.com

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 21:59:16 -0400
From: "Travis Wade"
Subject: Exhaust

The water has a slight greenish tint, resembling coolant. No smell though.
The truck runs like a top. No vapor trail, no nothing.

- -----Original Message-----
From: David J. Baldwin
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: exhaust



>Travis Wade wrote:
>>
>> I keep finding water puddled in the end of my exhaust pipe. Any
possible
>> causes?
>
>Yes: combustion.
>
>When fuel burns, it reacts with oxygen in the air to form carbon dioxide
>and water (among other things). Since the combustion process releases
>heat energy, the water is in the form of vapor. When it makes its way
>through the exhaust system, particularly when the system is cold, or in
>cold weather, the exhaust gasses can cool to the point where the water
>vapor condenses into liquid water. This can accumulate in the exhaust
>system or run out the end, pooling under the exhaust output.
>
>-- or --
>
>Maybe you have a head gasket leak (there are other ways that coolant can
>get into the engine) and you are getting coolant into the combustion
>chamber. If it is bad, you're usually leaving a steam trail behind
>you. If not bad, you might not notice, but there will usually be
>indications. These can include: losing coolant, fouling plugs with a
>DRY carbon film, bubbles appearing in your cooling system. Others might
>have some other symptoms and suggest places that may allow coolant into
>the engine, like cracked head or block, etc.
>
>Let's hope your water is just from normal combustion.
>
>--
>Best Regards,
>
>Dave Baldwin
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 23:31:07 -0400
From: hunter cyberstreet.com (Michael Kisielewski)
Subject: K&N HP or Mileage?

I've been hearing alot about the K&N air intake systems on here and have
a question. I understand the air to fuel ratio, and if I were to put on
a K&N intake it is supposedly going to increase the air flow which
should inturn increase fuel consumption. I would think that the increase
in horsepower would be so minimal that it wouldn't be worth the
decreased mileage. By the way I'm getting close to 18mpg with my '97
F-150 ext cab 4x4 Off Road Package setup with the 4.6L and automatic
overdrive trans with 3.55 limited slip rear. It may be a moot point
because I haven't seen the intake system available for my vehile in my
performance catalog. Hope I don't sound too unknowledgable. Thanks in
advance for any info.

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:03:40 -0700
From: William Street
Subject: Re: 1997 vs 1999 F350 CrewCab7.3L powerstroke

I was told that there will NOT be a 98 model but the 99's will be
available after the first of the year (from a Ford fleetmanager for
whatever that's worth).

> I might be missing something here, but it sounds like you are assuming
> there will not be a 1998 model F350. If that is your assumption, I
> think you are wrong. The present body style will be available as a 1998
> model and will be available in stock and for order beginning in October
> through next September. In other words, you do not have to buy a truck
> before October to get the "old style". As you say, the 1999 model F350
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 19:13:53 -0700
From: " Pono & Mele"
Subject: Re: Spray-on bed liners

To dale, If you think about it, spray on liners are only a composition of
chemicals sprayed on to your bed, like a skin if you will,not a protective
solid barrier like a liner or even a 3/4"sheet of plywood, at least they
wont leave dings or gouges in the bed. just somthing to think of . Rich
legend hgea.org

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> From: Dale Grein
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: Re: Spray-on bed liners
> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 2:56 PM
>
> Hi,
>
> Anyone know how tough the sprayed on liners are?
> I carry my snowmachine around alot.
> The carbides and studs are starting to chew up my current bed liner.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dale Grein 97 MXZ 440 LC
> Espanola, Ontario 84 F150 4X4 4speed 300 I-6
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dgtdesign.com mailto:fordman dgtdesign.com
>
>
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