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fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, September 16 1997 Volume 01 : Number 114



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In this issue:

Subject: Re: Spray-on bed liners ["Jeff Hall" ]
Re: Subject: Re: Spray-on bed liners [Don Lewoniuk
Re: 5th Wheel Questions [BILLPEGZ aol.com]
Re: splash ["Chris" ]
Re: splash [Thom Cheney ]
Re: splash [Thom Cheney ]
Re: splash [Thom Cheney ]
Re: splash ["Chris" ]
Re: splash [Gary Manning ]
Re: splash ["Randall C. Shelton" ]
Re: splash [Jerad Heffner ]
Grille/Brush Guard [Bryan Dann ]
Re: GOOD NEWS! [Filip M Gieszczykiewicz ]
302 [Ezekial ]
Re: Good News! ["Steve Irving" ]
Re: PCV Filter [LarryAll aol.com]
Dana Axle Identification [Steve Neumann ]
Re: PCV Filter [LarryAll aol.com]
Re: Spray-on bed liners [" Pono & Mele" ]
1996 f350 460 Exhaust, auto, Calif. Model, Dually, ["Jim Lohse"

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:46:57 -0600
From: "Jeff Hall"
Subject: Subject: Re: Spray-on bed liners

I have a friend who has had both, a drop-in liner and now a spray-on. He likes the spray-on much better. The tools, etc. in the back don't slide around like they used to. His 2 cents.

Jeff

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:57:09 -0700
From: Don Lewoniuk
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Spray-on bed liners

Jeff Hall wrote:
>
> I have a friend who has had both, a drop-in liner and now a spray-on. He likes the spray-on much better. The tools, etc. in the back don't
slide around like th
>
> Jeff

Have a spray in. Water can't get trapped between the liner and box which
gets rubbed bare over time with the drop ins. Material used in the spray
in gives superior traction in the box. Can always lay a piece of plywood
down over top if a more slippery surface is needed.

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:12:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: BILLPEGZ aol.com
Subject: Re: 5th Wheel Questions

My 5th wheel weighs 10,000 lbs dry weight. F-250 xcab diesel with contractor
body fully fueled and loaded with trailer weighs 18,550 lbs with me & wife on
board. I have 4:10 rear. I have over 40,000 miles loged towing this
trailer. 82,000 miles on the truck. My 1992 short bed xl xcab was not able
to pull this trailer. You have to go to a scale and weigh the trailer. The
newer trailers have the hitch slanted forward to provide turning radius
clearance. Dealers sell. They don't tow.

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:40:34 -0400
From: "Chris"
Subject: Re: splash

I've got one of those "under-Rail" bedlines on my Splash, and I thinks it's
one of the best bedliners around. It's called "Tuff Liner". It even comes
with holes for the handles, and it's molded with the inside of the box ...
I still use the plastic lip that originally comes on the box, and I didn't
even have to take it off to put in the liner.


l8r

- -----Original Message-----
From: Thom Cheney
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Monday, September 15, 1997 12:07 PM
Subject: splash



>I am looking at bedliners, etc. If I get a bedliner, I think I'll get
>the "under rail" type. I think that 8" plastic lip of the
>over-the-rail type looks unsightly. I am concerned with protecting
>that area though. It seems that the Splash trucks have a matte black
>coating(?) around the rail of their beds. My local Ford parts guy is
>not inspired enough to figure out whether or not it is paint or a
>sticker. Anyone have this kind of info?
>
>gracias,
>
>Thom Cheney
>'97 Ranger S-cab 4X4 STX
>
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:29:12 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: splash

MR JOSH J TENNEY wrote:
>
> Thom,
>
> Hola senor, como estan usted?
>
> Well anyway, my brother has a splash and I took a peek at the rails
> for you and they seem to screw or bolt to the top of the bed rails
> and the edge of the tailgate (looks like a protector). These are
> molded pieces of plastic that look a lot better than an over the rail
> liner.
>


Gracias para su respuesta,

I took a trip down to Ford and looked for a Splash. They were
conveniently out of them (did see a couple of new '98 Rangers lurking
out back...glad I didn't wait). The parts guys says no way it will
fit... but I'm not so sure. If you get near your brother's truck with
a tape measure in hand, could you give it a quick measure!?!? Ford
doesn't recommend the over-rail bedliner unless you expect to beat the
h*ll out of the truck and don't mind wavy plastic.

TC
'97 Ranger S-cab 4X4 STX....sans bedliner (so far)

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:33:54 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: splash

Jerad Heffner wrote:
>
> The September '97 Sport Truck magazine has a nice article in Shop Talk
> entitled "Self-serve Bed Coating". There is a product called Truck Bed
> Coating available from Dupli-Color (a sherwin-williams/diversified Brands
> company). It comes in a spray can. There are instructions on the can.
> Average: 6 cans per bed. In the mag: 10. Cost: $6.99 - $7.99. If you
> have a chance to get this mag, it tells you how and has pictures too. One
> added touch they did was to recoat the bed bolts with a silver enamel
> paint. The protected truck was a ranger, which they said 10 cans.Looks
> nice! I want to do it, but I don't have the money. If you do, I say go
> for it, the results are spectacular and $80.00 for a Do it yourselfer job
> is a lot cheaper than the %450 or so they want at Ziebart!


Thanks for the info... I'll hit the magazine rack. I am leary about
coatings and paint applied by spray can (anyone see a spray can window
tint lately?), but the idea sounds good.

TC

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:41:41 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: splash

Chris wrote:
>
> I've got one of those "under-Rail" bedlines on my Splash, and I thinks it's
> one of the best bedliners around. It's called "Tuff Liner". It even comes
> with holes for the handles, and it's molded with the inside of the box ...
> I still use the plastic lip that originally comes on the box, and I didn't
> even have to take it off to put in the liner.
>
> l8r
>


Any chance I can get you to pry the plastic rail protectors off your
Splash and send them out this way!?!?!? :}

TC

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:58:22 -0400
From: "Chris"
Subject: Re: splash

Sorry TC, but nothing is coming off my baby, I like those plastic rail
protectors.

Does anyone have experiences with those tonneau covers ???, Good ones bad
ones etc..

I like the ones with the snaps !



>
>Any chance I can get you to pry the plastic rail protectors off your
>Splash and send them out this way!?!?!? :}
>
>TC
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:07:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary Manning
Subject: Re: splash

I one from Covercraft on my F-150. It has an aluminum rail frame that is
clamped to the bed. The vinyl cover snaps to the rails, and is removed
with a special tool to make it more secure. I leave the front and side
rails on permanently. The rear rail can be removed to allow access to the
bed for loads that wont fit under the cover while it is on.

It is a quality cover, installs easily, and looks very nice.

Gary

> Does anyone have experiences with those tonneau covers ???, Good ones bad
> ones etc..

Gary Manning x84056 gmanning qualcomm.com
Net Ops Center x11243 Qualcomm, Inc. San Diego, CA

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 19:10:20 -0500
From: "Randall C. Shelton"
Subject: Re: splash

Yes I have an "Extang" cover on my 97 supercab 4x4 ranger, and love it. Was
on my 93 2x4 ranger, and moved it to the new one. It's a set of rails that
have clamps like the camper shells. Snaps for the cover are on the rails,
slidable, and tension adjustable for summer/winter. You can even open the
tailgate without undoing anything. Not completely waterproff, but close
enough to carry luggage without worries. Also will roll up, and cross bars
can be removed easily for carrying large items. Increased 2 mpg on my 93,
don't know about the 97 since it was on before the first tank emptied.
Cost under $200, and about 1 hour to install the first time.

Randy
97 4x4 supercab RANGER

At 06:58 PM 9/15/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Sorry TC, but nothing is coming off my baby, I like those plastic rail
>protectors.
>
>Does anyone have experiences with those tonneau covers ???, Good ones bad
>ones etc..
>
>I like the ones with the snaps !
>
>
>
>>
>>Any chance I can get you to pry the plastic rail protectors off your
>>Splash and send them out this way!?!?!? :}
>>
>>TC
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>
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 19:24:07 -0500
From: Jerad Heffner
Subject: Re: splash

I have an '84 Ranger with a TekSport by Design tonneau cover. Has aluminum
rails and snaps, with clamps. It's great. I mow yards for money and used to
have to take it off a lot, and it's real easy to do. Really, i left it on,
but rolled it up. I didn't have to do any driving over 30 mph so it was ok.
I love it and it really improves the look of the truck. Mine was ~$180 at
KOA Campgrounds near where I live.

Jerad

Chris wrote:

> Sorry TC, but nothing is coming off my baby, I like those plastic rail
> protectors.
>
> Does anyone have experiences with those tonneau covers ???, Good ones bad
> ones etc..
>
> I like the ones with the snaps !
>
> >
> >Any chance I can get you to pry the plastic rail protectors off your
> >Splash and send them out this way!?!?!? :}
> >
> >TC
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:31:23 -0500
From: Bryan Dann
Subject: Grille/Brush Guard

Anyone install a grille guard on their 93 thru 97 Ranger STX ?
if so what kind did you install. (make,model,......)
thanx

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:47:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
Subject: Re: GOOD NEWS!

You (yhtlines surfari.net) wrote:
> Charlie Biggs wrote that his son had replaced on a hunch, the tps on his
> 4.9 and it had resolved drivabiltiy issues.
>
> Question: what in the world led you to that? Just one more thing on the
> list to replace? I need to go check a couple of them here!

Greetings.

TPS - Throttle Position Sensor

Comes in two types:

1) Resistor: a circular strip of resistance (carbon) material and a
mechanical wiper which converts the movement of the throttle into
a resistance - so that the computer knows what you're up to!
2) Contacts: a series of gold-plated contacts which detect "general
position" of the throttle. They convert the position into a binary
(either on or off) voltage on a series of wires or, using a bank
of resistors, convert it to a resistance. Again, the computer can
find out what you're up to.

#1 gives you excellent resolution - a tiny tap of the pedal and the
computer knows. BUT, the resistor element WEARS due to mechanical
wiper and eventually has dead-spots in your "favorite" throttle
position. #2 gives a quantized position of the throttle BUT does
not wear as readily and is generally easier to make environment-
proof.

The "ultimate" sensor would be based on some sort of optical encoder,
like your $4 computer mouse. You already have a dirt-proof container,
I guess it's just a few years till we see those... if the throttle
plate doesn't get replaced with something, that is :-)

Take care.

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:34:01 -0500
From: Ezekial
Subject: 302

I have a 1988 F-150 with a EFI 302.
I was wondering if anyone has some good cheap tricks to squeeze some
more power and/or speed from her. I am interested in bolt on, part
changes, and just changes to the motor. Any ideas are welcome. Make a
complete engine upgrade if you want too. Thanx in advance, Derrick.

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:27:49 -0700
From: "Steve Irving"
Subject: Re: Good News!

Throttle Positioning Sensor

Steve Irving
niteh primenet.com
steve nite.com - Nighthawk Systems/Phoenix Arizona
sirving ci.glendale.az.us
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.primenet.com/~niteh

- -----Original Message-----
From: John Thomas Taylor
To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
Date: Monday, September 15, 1997 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Good News!



>what the hell is TPS?
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 01:21:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: LarryAll aol.com
Subject: Re: PCV Filter

Is it inside the air cleaner box? I thought the PCV valve was always in the
valve cover. I myself am having a problem finding it. I found something
that feels like a PCV valve on the left back valve cover, but it is almost
impossible to get to and the Purelator replacement is too tall to fit in even
if I could get it out. I really would like to know what is going on. And
when you all talk about the air cleaner are you talking about the intake? I
replaced mine with the K&N air intake kit. I didn't have a PCV valve in the
stock intake, but I did have a air breather filter in there. I may be miss
understanding what you are talking about, but like I said before, I though
the PCV valve was always in the valve cover. Thanks for the input...
Larry...

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 01:07:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: Steve Neumann
Subject: Dana Axle Identification

I have a question about an axle on an '80 F-250. Can anyone tell me
what the difference is between a Dana 44, a Dana 44HD and a Dana 50? I have
access to some parts from that same F-250, but aside from having 8 lug hubs,
I don't know how to tell what exists under the front of that truck. The
useless books I have make mention of the Dana 50, but who really knows the
specifics of each axle here? What years was the 50 used? What about the HD
44? Can I just swap out the rotors on my current front axle? Any help is
greatly appreciated.


Steve ('84 Bronco, '76 Ranchero)

Thank you Alan Kulwicki, 1992 Winston Cup Champion, for the memories...

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 01:24:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: LarryAll aol.com
Subject: Re: PCV Filter

Opps, I should have read that PCV thing a little closer. Yeah the breather
is in the air intake box and the valve is on the valve cover. But still how
do you actually replace it without taking off the fuel injector housing? I
can't seem to get much room back there. Anyway, sorry about that misread
before.


Larry...

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:44:12 -0700
From: " Pono & Mele"
Subject: Re: Spray-on bed liners

In response to your spray-on bedliners, I live in hawaii,and have seen a
spray on liner called rhino lining which is probabily the toughest I have
ever seen, the only problem I have ever seen with these spray-onliners is
that, it will not protect your bed from dents made by bricks, rocks,ect.
That's the good thing about drop inliners. Here in hawaii they both cost
about the same give or take $50- $60 .
from:rich legend hgea.org
- ----------
> From: Thom Cheney
> To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
> Subject: Re: Spray-on bed liners
> Date: Monday, September 15, 1997 6:26 AM
>
> Steven McCullough wrote:
> >
> > Anyone had any experience with these spray-in rubber coatings
> > used as bed liners. At first I thought it was a bad idea, but
> > I saw one the other day on another truck and the rubber was dyed
> > to match the color of the truck - I thought it looked pretty nice.
> >
> > Any thoughts? Typical prices?
>
> I have also been looking into the spray on liners. They seem to run
> about twice the price of a drop in bedliner here in Portland. Knew
> someone who had it done to his truck. The only bad thing I could see
> was that he kept getting air bubbles. They were warranted by the
> installer, but after 2 trips back he lived with them.
>
> Thom Cheney
> '97 Ranger S-cab 4X4 STX
>
>
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