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fordtrucks80up-digest Thursday, September 11 1997 Volume 01 : Number 106



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In this issue:

Re: '99 F350 front axle [John Yee ]
Re: 4.0 swap into a 2.3 Ranger [PhilDyson aol.com]
all 88' F-150 Owners! [BILL_CHANDLER HP-Roseville-om2.om.hp.com]
Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder Bleeding [Ken Miller ]
Order window closed on 1997's? [Lou Mallia ]
Re: Order window closed on 1997's? [John Yee ]
Re: EXPLORERS & BRONCOS [Jordan ]
Re: Ranger Power Steering Pump [Randy Kindler ]
Re: Order window closed on 1997's? [Chris Kelly ]
Superchargers [Randy Kindler ]
Headlight covers [Jerad Heffner ]
Re: Ranger Power Steering Pump [silent.bob juno.com]
Re: 84 Ranger, 2.3 L and HP? [silent.bob juno.com]
Re: Ranger Power Steering Pump [Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
Re: Labor time ["Randall C. Shelton" ]
Re: Ford V-8` [silent.bob juno.com]
Re: 84 Ranger, 2.3 L and HP? [silent.bob juno.com]
Re: 84 Ranger, 2.3 L and HP? [silent.bob juno.com]
Re: 5.0L fuel mileage [Lehmandp aol.com]
Re: 4.0 swap into a 2.3 Ranger [Jerad Heffner ]

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:49:49 -0700
From: John Yee
Subject: Re: '99 F350 front axle

At 07:30 PM 9/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone know if the '99 F350 will still have a straight front
>axle?

The answer is yes according to the following.
If you weren't paying attention to the thread, there was information that
the F250 *also* would also have a monobeam axle, in which this post was
responding to.

- -john

To paste a quote from Mr. Russ Hampton...

I was the one who started the "rumor" about the solid front axle (or
Monobeam as Ford called it). I was at a dealer about 3 weeks ago, before I
bought my truck and he showed me a fax (on FoMoCo letter head) the changes
in store for the '99 model. It did not state if it were 4x4 or 2wd though,
I would assume both. There were also other items on the list that I don't
remember. It listed Job 1 at Jan 5, 1998.

It might or might not be true, but this is what I saw. I agree that it is
in the wrong direction for me, as I want IFS with my HD powerstroke (and I
got it!).

Russ

97 F250 4x4 SC Powerstroke (900 miles and climbing!)

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:19:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: PhilDyson aol.com
Subject: Re: 4.0 swap into a 2.3 Ranger

In a message dated 97-09-11 08:41:42 EDT, you write:


heavier-duty tranny, differential, and other stuff, won't I? I've never
done anything serious as far as automotive work goes. . I'm learning, but
don't have much opportunity. I'm 18, and with school, a part time job, a
girlfriend, and other activities, it gets kind of hard. But thanx for the
info, I sure appreciate it.

Hmmm, V8, yeah. . ar, ar, ar, Poweeer! Vroooooom!

:)
Jerad Heffner

toerne juno.com wrote:

> The person asking about putting a 4.0 into a 2.3 Ranger shouldn't! Do a
> 302 conversion using Maverick or Comet V8 exhaust manifolds and a C-5
> auto transmission. It fits perfectly using "V-8 Conversions" motor
> mounts. Some radiator mods will also be required.
> If you put a 4.0 in an 89 or older Ranger (and probably newer) you will
> need COMPLETE wiring diagrams and schematics from both vehicles and the
> computer and as much of under hood, chassis, and dash wiring as you can
> get from the donor truck. Wiring colors don't match. Basic dashboard
> functions are not plug in and require a lot of splicing. I've been
> involved with both conversions.....the V-8 is easier, faster, lest
> costly, and delivers a lot more fun. V-8/C5 conversion costs about
> $1000, 4.0/4AOD costs close to $2,000. >>

DO NOT put a C-5 in your truck, it is Junk! The centrifical lock-up torque
converter will send shavings into the oil and eventually leave you in a
"no-drive" condition. The shavings will clog the filter screen untill
control pressure drops to zero leaving you with a transmission full of
neutrals.
If you want to use the C-5 be sure to use the C-4 torque converter. As best
I can tell the converter is the only difference between the C-4 and C-5. I
know at least one Converter rebuilder (Torco, Abilene TX) that leaves out the
lock-up clutches whenever they rebuild a C-5 converter.
Phil


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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 97 17:22:53 -0700
From: BILL_CHANDLER HP-Roseville-om2.om.hp.com
Subject: all 88' F-150 Owners!

Item Subject: cc:Mail Text
Hello :-)

I'm a recent subscriber to the list. It's a great site!

I've just purchased an 88' F-150 with the 6cyl engine and 5speed
transmission. The cab is the "Custom" model.
This truck is in Excellent condition, however, I would like to
make some improvements such as those found on the XL and XLT versions.

If anyone has info on upgrades like; adding 2nd fuel tank, power
windows, power door locks, remote side mirrors, cruise control, and
any other factory goodies, please write me at;
bill_chandler hp.com or basset2 ns.net

Thanks

Bill :-)



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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:51:13
From: Ken Miller
Subject: Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder Bleeding

Mark,
From the work I had done my self, and at the dealer, all I can say, is
keep pumping that clutch with everthing hooked up, and the bleed screw at
the slave open. I ran into the same problem as it seems you are having. I
called a local Ford Dealer, and they said you have to pump the heck out of
that clutch peddel. After a whole afternoon of pumping, I called a tow
truck and had it taken into the dealer (thinking that I had damaged
something, or something was broken). All they did, and charged me for, was
bleeding the air, which took them better part of a day to do.

Good Luck
MK

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:59:13 -0400
From: Lou Mallia
Subject: Order window closed on 1997's?

I called a local auto/truck "buying service" that will order/locate a vehicle
for you at a very small "no-hassle" profit margin. When I inquired about the
order window for the 1997 F250, I was told it is already closed, and that Ford
will begin taking orders around November 15 for 1999 F250's, with delivery set
to begin in January 1998. Also, I was told that base pricing was same as 1997,
but not all option pricing was set at this time.

Can anyone else verify this information? I was hoping to slip in under the
wire and order a 1997 F250 extended cab 4x4, short bed, 351 5speed. Does
there seem to be availability of these trucks out there?

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:20:00 -0700
From: John Yee
Subject: Re: Order window closed on 1997's?

At 08:59 PM 9/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I called a local auto/truck "buying service" that will order/locate a vehicle
>for you at a very small "no-hassle" profit margin. When I inquired about the
>order window for the 1997 F250, I was told it is already closed, and that Ford
>will begin taking orders around November 15 for 1999 F250's, with delivery set
>to begin in January 1998. Also, I was told that base pricing was same as 1997,
>but not all option pricing was set at this time.
>
>Can anyone else verify this information? I was hoping to slip in under the
>wire and order a 1997 F250 extended cab 4x4, short bed, 351 5speed. Does
>there seem to be availability of these trucks out there?

Hmmm.

You seem to have some conflicting information based on what's been flying around
here. Are you sure the "buying service" was not confusing the LD F-250 with the
HD F250? It's easy to miss this fine point.

In any case, what I know. The 1998 LD F150 - and F250 are orderable now,
and in the show rooms.

The 1997 HD ordering window will close very soon, if not already.
(did I get that right?)

The HD F-250 and F-350 is reported to be orderable as early as jan 98, with
shipments starting in the march/april 98 time frame. Good information should be
trickling into the dealers about the Oct/Nov time frame.

The closest thing to a 351 is the 5.4 liter triton engine, in the HD trucks.
LD trucks can be had with a 4.6 or 5.4 L engine, and one other choice that
escapes me.

Pricing for the 98 LD F150 is on kbb.com now.

Hope this helps.

- -john

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:32:24 -0500
From: Jordan
Subject: Re: EXPLORERS & BRONCOS

At 08:51 AM 9/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Well, admittedly, I am fairly biased cuz I drive a 95 Bronco...
>
>If you're looking for the 90's station wagon, then by all means get the
>Explorer. Motor Trend's test of SUV's gave the Explorer the worst rank for
>its abilities off road (yet it sold almost 4 times as many units as the
>nearest competitor!). It really is just a car made up to look SUV-ish.
Actually its build around a ranger frame. It is more like a truck and
drives like one. The windstar on the other hand is built on a taurus frame
to make it more carlike.

>The two wheel drive model is even more of a road vehicle. But if that's
My 2wd sure is fun in the mud though :-) just make sure to have a 4wd
around in case something were to happen. Course I wouldn't do this without
my manual transmistion, the key is momentum and don't be afraid to spin
the AT's a little to clean them for more traction.

>Just figger your gas mileage when you pick an engine....My buddies with
>Explorer 4.0's complain cuz they get 14-16 mpg. Figger the 5.0 Explorer
Yeah I get 14-15.5 pretty bad, but I also drive the heck out of my standard.

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 19:42:46 -0400
From: Randy Kindler
Subject: Re: Ranger Power Steering Pump

>
> The power steering pump on my 94 Ranger (3.0L V6, 60K miles) has begun to
> make a groaning/growling sound. No, it's not belt slippage, and it does
> it at all rpm and regardless of whether the truck is turning, driving
> straight, or simply sitting at idle.
>
> I changed the fluid, filling and draining several times to get as much of
> the old fluid as possible. It made no difference in the sound. The old
> fluid had not darkened and did not smell burned.
>
> On the subject of heat in the fluid, I have not found a cooler on the
> truck. Is there an *effective* cooler available somewhere? I am concerned
> about cutting and splicing the hoses to fit one in. Does anyone know what
> kind of pressures the system utilizes?
>
> Is there any cure, or am I looking at a new pump? Is it likely that it is
> a heat induced problem? It does get rather warm here in South Central
> Texas, and lacking a cooler...
>
> Any suggestions will be appreciated,
>
> Fred Wise
>
I had an '87 Ranger power steering pump make the noise you describe. It
was still under warranty, so the dealer replaced the pump. Within 3 or 4
Thousand miles the noise started again. It was no longer on warranty, so
I ignored it. I drove the truck for another 100k miles with no problems.
My '95 F150 pump is starting to get noisy, too. If anyone knows a cure,
short of replacing the pump, I would also be interested.

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:16:53 -0400
From: Chris Kelly
Subject: Re: Order window closed on 1997's?

Lou Mallia wrote:
>
> I called a local auto/truck "buying service" that will order/locate a vehicle
> for you at a very small "no-hassle" profit margin. When I inquired about the
> order window for the 1997 F250, I was told it is already closed, and that Ford
> will begin taking orders around November 15 for 1999 F250's, with delivery set
> to begin in January 1998. Also, I was told that base pricing was same as 1997,
> but not all option pricing was set at this time.
>
> Can anyone else verify this information? I was hoping to slip in under the
> wire and order a 1997 F250 extended cab 4x4, short bed, 351 5speed. Does
> there seem to be availability of these trucks out there?....

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