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fordtrucks80up-digest Tuesday, September 9 1997 Volume 01 : Number 100



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In this issue:

Re: Explorers & Broncos, what to buy [Bill Funk ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #98 [Bill Funk ]
Re: Bug shield cleaning [Jeffrey Scott Gaines ]
Re: a warning and Powerstroke ["Patrick Vanderlind"
Re: If you don't mind me asking? $ on F350 crew PS [Dan Simoes
Re: RE:1998, 1999 F250's Trannys [KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #96 ["Mike Jones"]
Re: a warning [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: Explorers and Broncos, what to buy [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob]
Re: Converting Side Marker Lights [Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
RE: PSD fuel filter/ water separator [David Hertzberg
radio shack cruise control [Thom Cheney ]
re: prices [Thom Cheney ]
Re: Ford V-8` [BigDogF250 aol.com]
Re: Ford V-8` ["Andy Bell" ]
Re: Explorers and Broncos, what to buy ["Andy Bell"
Re: Ford V-8` ["C. E. White" ]
RE: front hubs [darmbruster milehigh.net (Dave & Kirsten)]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #96 [mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)]
Re: prices [Max Dooley ]
Re: Ford V-8` [Paul Laughlin ]

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 03:07:55 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: Explorers & Broncos, what to buy

> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 11:45:55 +0000
> From: "Erik J. O'Daniel"
> Subject: Explorers and Broncos, what to buy
>
> My wife and I are looking at Explorers and Broncos as a replacement
> for our Bronco II. (Okay, she's looking at the Explorers, I'm
> looking at the Broncos - Broncos are too truck-like... so she says)
>
> We are looking at used vehicles and can afford only a 91 or 92
> Explorer. Were the early years of Explorers a problem? Do the first
> couple model years of a vehicle's existence sometimes have problems
> that they fix in later models? Any recommendations as to what to
> look for or avoid? This would be her vehicle mostly so we're aiming
> at:
> - - automatic
> - - V6 (do they ever have V8 options?) 4.0L - other sizes?
> - - 4WD isn't necessary, and it does seem to jack the price up quite a
>
> bit around here.
> - - 4 door hopefully
>

We have a '92 Sport 2D, 2WD Explorer, with about 82K on it.There is a
newsgroup specifically for Ford Explorers, do a search for Explorer.
The early Explorers have a reputation for losing trannys right about 70K
miles or so, and the A/C condensor is a weak point, usually it's been
replaced by now. There are a few other complaints, like a vibration at
about 60-75 mph, that won't go away except by luck, despite the best
efforts of Ford and a multitude of front-end shops around the country.
Otherwise, they are actually quite competent little SUVs. The V8 was a
much later addition.
Explorers remain in high demand, so costs can be high, although on the
real early ones this might not be so evident.
We like ours, and intend to keep it until it falls apart. It's my wife's
daily driver, and she's a fairly aggressive driver, and it holds up to
her driving style pretty well.
SO far, we've had to replace: A/C condensor, A/C hoses, intake maifold
gasket, front brake disks (our fault), battery (normal maintenance),
shocks, tires, and normal maintenance items. Fairly reliable, really.

Bill Funk

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 03:14:05 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #98

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 18:24:10 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Dale Grein
> Subject: a warning
>
> This doesn't have anything to do with Ford Trucks but I thought you
> could
> all use this info.
>
> >>Forwarded fyi
> >>WARNING!!!!!!
> >> If you receive an e-mail titled "JOIN THE CREW" DO NOT
> >>>> > open it! It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! Send
> this
> >>letter out to
> >>>> > as many people you can.......this is a new virus and not many
> people
> >>know
> >>>> > about it! This information was received this morning from
> IBM,
> >>please share it
> >>>> > with anyone that might access the Internet.
> >>>> > Also, If anyone receives mail entitled; PENPAL GREETINGS!
> please
> >>delete
> >>>> > it WITHOUT reading it!! This is a warning for all Internet
> users -

...

> Dale Grein

Dale, and the rest of the group...I realize the desire to protect us all
from a disaster of this type, but this is a hoax.
It is not possible for email to carry a virus of any type. (At least,
not yet.)
Before this type of warning is sent out, a little checking should be
done.
Bill Funk
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.starlink.com/~ascii

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 06:41:11 -0700
From: Jeffrey Scott Gaines
Subject: Re: Bug shield cleaning

Try using the popular metal polishing compound, Brasso.

Use a soft cloth and buff with it, just like a rubbing compund for paint -
then wipe it off once dry with another clean towel. this works great for
taking the scratches out of almost any kind of plastic or metal - it saved
one of my watch faces one time. It may take several times to get out the
deep scratches, but it worked on mine.

J. Scott Gaines

'89 Bronco II

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 06:28:12 -6000
From: "Patrick Vanderlind"
Subject: Re: a warning and Powerstroke

If anyone is interested, check out the following site in the case of
a suspected virus. This will avoid sending hoax info and clogging up
the list.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html



I test drove my first powerstroke Saturday! NICE! It was an XLT 4x4
and had a 5 speed with a 4.10 limited slip. Needless to say it had
b*lls the size of church bells! You stepped down on it and it climbed
up in speed very nicely. I can see my '93s diesel is quite a bit
different. That direct injection must make a huge difference. It
sounds neat at idle also. I would have loved to hitch up my trailer
and test it that way. From what has been said on this list, I am sure
it would do just fine. It may be a while until I get one. My wife
says "a new house comes first."

Patrick Vanderlind
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
'93 F250 xcab XLT 4x4 red/red Diesel

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:31:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan Simoes
Subject: Re: If you don't mind me asking? $ on F350 crew PS

My brother in law got one recently. He paid $500 over invoice,
and the dealer got to keep the holdback. The problem was that
there are so few of these left (so he was told) that there was not
much to choose from. He ended up getting a loaded XLT in order to
get the options he really wanted. I think it came just under $30k.
- --
Dan Simoes dans ans.net
ANS Communications http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://coimbra.ans.net/dans.html
100 Manhattanville Road (914) 701-5378 (voice)
Purchase, NY 10577 (914) 701-5310 (fax)

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:56:45, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: Re: RE:1998, 1999 F250's Trannys

Ryan,

>From what I can tell, by looking in the Ford source books ('98 vs.
'94), the manual tranny for the 4.6L vs. the 5.0L is the same. They
have the same gears and all so they probably are the same.

Josh

KNBD87D prodigy.com

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 10:10:32 -0400
From: "Mike Jones"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #96

Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 00:23:44 -0400
From: mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)
Subject: E4OD Problems.
>Hi, has anyone experienced problems with the overdrive in this
>transmission? My problem is that the overdrive only works intermitly,is
>not on all the time like it should be. could this be a sensor,or sending
>unit problem? also is there a fuse for this, Any ideas or suggestions
>would be helpful. could anyone give me prices on the parts,or the cost
>of a rebuild?
>Thanks
>Ian 92 F150
Hard to diagnose w/o more detailed info, but in the interest of getting a
dialog started...

Is the overdrive not working or the lock-up clutch? The reason I ask is
the effects are similar. (Forgive me if this is too basic a question.) The
way to tell is this: Hold a steady speed at 50 mph or so, and then goose
the accelerator, not enough to force a downshift though. If the clutch is
not locking, you will then have an immediate rpm increase of 200-300 not
tied to road speed. If the clutch is locked, then the revs will build only
with road speed.

If you decide it is the clutch, then the first place to look is the coolant
temperature switch (different than the dash gage sending unit). This
switch delays lock-up until the coolant warms somewhat.

A blown fuse is not indicated. If it were a fuse, you problem would be
permanent, not intermittant. Can you provide more info? Is this a problem
when cold? Hot? Does it randomly shift in and out? O.K. one day and not
the next?

Hope this at least gets you started.

Mike J.

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 10:13:58 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: a warning

On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 18:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Dale Grein
writes:
>This doesn't have anything to do with Ford Trucks but I thought you
>could
>all use this info.
>

>>>WARNING!!!!!!
>>> If you receive an e-mail titled "JOIN THE CREW" DO NOT
>>>>> > open it! It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! Send
>this
>>>letter out to
>>>>> > as many people you can.......this is a new virus and not many
>people
>>>know


Sorry, you have been a victim of a hoax.

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 10:13:57 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: Explorers and Broncos, what to buy

On Sun, 7 Sep 1997 11:45:55 +0000 "Erik J. O'Daniel"
writes:

>- V6 (do they ever have V8 options?) 4.0L - other sizes?

Yes. In the earlier models they offered a 5.0L, in the newer models they
offered the 4.6L.

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:52:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Filip M Gieszczykiewicz
Subject: Re: Converting Side Marker Lights

You (ILuvTruks aol.com) wrote:
> Just want to give you guys a web address. I found this site that has some
> instructions on how to convert the side marker lights into turn signals. I
> haven't done it to my Bronco II yet, that will be my "do while I am
> re-building" side project. The guy says it only works while the running
> lights are on, but I am going to see about afro-engineering it into working
> full-time. I will need to look at the wiring diagram for my B2 but I know it
> can be done. Anyway, It's pretty good background info. Should be a pretty
> cool (and safer) result.
> Here it is: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.paranoia.com/~filipg/HTML/AUTO/F_marker2turn.html

Greetings. Damn. My own page comes back to bite me in the butt ;-)

Yeah, made this conversion on our Saturn (twice, as the first time the
idiot-mechanic ripped it out because "we can't pass your inspection if
you have a car safer than the way it came from the factory"... so I
had to chew the moron out and do it again... they leave it alone now).
It works. And, yes, you can do it so it always works (not just when the
lights are on) BUT in the Saturn (unlike my B2) there is _NO_ space to
be crative!

Take care.

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 97 09:57:27 PDT
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: RE: PSD fuel filter/ water separator

I own a 1988 F250 with a 7.3 international. I have attempted to drain the water
from the separator (one simply has to turn a quarter-sized dial under the filter
and the water escapes down a drain tube) but have never/never gotten any water out
of it. Either the fuel I use is devoid of water or the dang thing doesn't work. I
once opened the drain and started the engine and fuel came pouring out. I shut off
the engine and closed the drain. I could not start the engine, and when I did it
hesitated and stalled... I guess air got in the fuel lines. After a few minutes it
was ok.


>Curious if anyone has had a problem draining their fuel/water separator in a
>Powerstroke? I have a 95 w/ 34K and I have only been able to drain it,
>according to owners manual instructions, once. Every other time, I've had to
>keep the engine running (!!) to drain it (= serious mess). Seems like a
>vacuum forms in the system w/ the engine shut down. Am currently getting the
>runaround w/ a dealer who says that the system is automatic (ROTFL) and I
>don't need to drain it manually. After 2 "technicians" told me this I showed
>them the owners manual which specifically states in no uncertain terms to
>shut down and drain w/ lever next to fuel filter. They told me to come back
>next week when the "team leader" gets back from vacation as he knows more
>about diesels. I'm now brimming w/ confidence in their knowledge of diesel
>engines that they sell. If anyone knows anything about this problem, I'd
>appreciate the input.
>
>Pete Gatchell
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David and Leila Hertzberg
Greystoke Farm
Gaithersburg, Maryland
301-482-0016
ACdhertz us-state.osis.gov


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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 07:34:31 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: radio shack cruise control

I read a post the other day where someone suggested that a cruise
control device could be put together from radio shack parts for pretty
cheap. Can anyone back this up with a parts list!?!?

Not for me...mine already has it.

Thanks,

Thom Cheney
'97 Ranger S-cab 4X4 STX

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 08:10:11 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: re: prices

One week ago I paid $200 over invoice for my '97 Ranger 4X4 S-cab STX.
I could have gotten an additional $1000 off the price, but I opted for
the 2.9% interest rate. How many of you are paying $214 per month
payments on a new vehicle!?!?!?

T. Cheney
Portland, OR

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 17:16:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: BigDogF250 aol.com
Subject: Re: Ford V-8`

thank you derrick, that was worrying me too, LoL

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 17:58:04 -0400
From: "Andy Bell"
Subject: Re: Ford V-8`

FORD ALSO MADE A 360.

- ----------
> From: Ezekial
> To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> Subject: Ford V-8`
> Date: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 12:20 AM
>
> I have a complaint/comment. Why is everyone refering to a 350 V-8???
> Ford does not have this engine. Please refer to 351 V-8, this is the
> ford engine, the before is Chevy. Dodge is the 360. Just want to clear
> things up. I take my Ford pride very seriously. Thanx.
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:04:12 -0400
From: "Andy Bell"
Subject: Re: Explorers and Broncos, what to buy

I would suggest you look at the newer explorers with the chevy style front
end. They have fewer problems and don't wear the edges off of the front
tires. In the early explorers the only engine offered was the 4.0L In the
newer ones they offer the old push rod 4.0L , a SOHC 4.0L with a five speed
auto, and a 5.0L. ----The SOHC 4.0 seems to be the speed demon.
- ----------
> From: Erik J. O'Daniel
> To: fordtrucks80up-digest ListService.net
> Subject: Explorers and Broncos, what to buy
> Date: Sunday, September 07, 1997 7:45 AM
>
> My wife and I are looking at Explorers and Broncos as a replacement
> for our Bronco II. (Okay, she's looking at the Explorers, I'm
> looking at the Broncos - Broncos are too truck-like... so she says)
>
> We are looking at used vehicles and can afford only a 91 or 92
> Explorer. Were the early years of Explorers a problem? Do the first
> couple model years of a vehicle's existence sometimes have problems
> that they fix in later models? YES ---Any recommendations as to what
to
> look for or avoid? This would be her vehicle mostly so we're aiming
> at:
> - automatic
> - V6 (do they ever have V8 options?) 4.0L - other sizes?
> - 4WD isn't necessary, and it does seem to jack the price up quite a
> bit around here.
> - 4 door hopefully
>
> As for Broncos, I think I read that they became fuel-injected in 88,
> true? I'm also leaning towards a 302 and not a 351. I won't be
> towing anything and I've heard the 302 is more economical. Any other
> things I should consider?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Erik O'Daniel
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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 18:48:38 -0400
From: "C. E. White"
Subject: Re: Ford V-8`

Andy Bell wrote:
>
> FORD ALSO MADE A 360.
>
> ----------
> > From: Ezekial
> > To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> > Subject: Ford V-8`
> > Date: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 12:20 AM
> >
> > I have a complaint/comment. Why is everyone refering to a 350 V-8???
> > Ford does not have this engine. Please refer to 351 V-8, this is the
> > ford engine, the before is Chevy. Dodge is the 360. Just want to clear
> > things up. I take my Ford pride very seriously. Thanx.
> >
> > --
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > | Ezekial | 66 Mustang Fastback, 88 F-150 | ezekial mindless.com |
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> > |--- Phantom Chat: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.galstar.com/~derrick/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=live_chat ---|
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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And don't forget the 352. And they made an engine they calimed to be a
361.....

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 17:07:28 -0600
From: darmbruster milehigh.net (Dave & Kirsten)
Subject: RE: front hubs

I know Warn makes an aftermarket set of manuals hubs for the Rangers and
TTB Explorers, which I think you should be able to get through any dealer
who handles Warn. I don't know for sure, but I bet you could order them
through Ford, might even say Ford on the handles. I think I have heard
about $200 for the set (that included the repair shop's mark-up) from a
friend who blew out an auto locking hub, but I personally have not priced
them.

The only reason not to change is the fact that you have to get out and lock
the hubs if you want to use 4wd, so *maybe* significant other's ease of use
or convienence could be questioned, or if you are on your way to an
interview and a blizzard suddenly starts... Otherwise, it allows you to
use the low range of your xfer case without binding up the drivetrain,
useful pulling boats out of the water and on very steep and slow passes or
roads to save the brakes. And, when you back up in 4wd, the front hubs can
never come unlocked, which is technically possible with auto hubs under the
right conditions.

Dave A.

>Date: Mon, 8 Sep 97 22:40:09 UT
>From: "DAVID MUMMERY"
>Subject: RE: front hubs
>
>Their is no reason not to change them. They are quite easy to change and while
>you are there repack trose bearings.
>As for the people to call try Summit racing or look in any Peterson's 4Wheel
>drive mag for mailorder companies.
>Good Luck
>Scott M
>
>- ----------
>From: owner-fordtrucks80up ListService.net on behalf of Bakend aol.com
>Sent: Monday, September 08, 1997 10:18 AM
>To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
>Subject: front hubs
>
>Hi,
> I have a question that has probably been asked many times before, but as
>a newbie......
>I want to change the automatic locking hubs on my 87 Ranger 4X4 to the manual
>locking hubs. Any advice on how much trouble this is to do? Any reasons not
>to make the change? Best place to get the parts and what is needed? (need to
>do anything to transfer case?)
>Any help ?
>Thanks
>Dennis Baken

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Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:53:55 -0400
From: mrkrispy webtv.net (Ian Holter)
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #96

Mike- I don't have a tach in the truck so I can't tell you about the RPM
increase- if any. As for the other things, it does work off and on but
doesn't work very often (maybe once a week). I have had the fluid and
filter changed and it didn't help. It used to work only when there was a
morning dew on the ground until you shut the engine off and then it
wouldn't work again. I was hoping that this might be an easy fix- LOL. I
appreciate any help of any kind. Thanks for responding to my first
questions- look forward to hearing from you again. Thanx- Ian

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 20:02:56 -0400
From: Max Dooley
Subject: Re: prices

Thom Cheney wrote:
> One week ago I paid $200 over invoice for my '97 Ranger 4X4 S-cab STX.
> I could have gotten an additional $1000 off the price, but I opted for
> the 2.9% interest rate. How many of you are paying $214 per month
> payments on a new vehicle!?!?!?
> T. Cheney
> Portland, OR

Thom , my first question is hom much did you put down or trade in.
Secondly, to reply, I have a '97 that I only pay $267. slighlty more
than yours but I had no money down and no trade. I don't think I did
too bad, huh.

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 09:19:19 -0700
From: Paul Laughlin
Subject: Re: Ford V-8`

Andy Bell wrote:
>
> FORD ALSO MADE A 360.
>
And a 352 and a 390. Paul
> ----------
> > From: Ezekial
> > To: fordtrucks80up ListService.net
> > Subject: Ford V-8`
> > Date: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 12:20 AM
> >
> > I have a complaint/comment. Why is everyone refering to a 350 V-8???
> > Ford does not have this engine. Please refer to 351 V-8, this is the
> > ford engine, the before is Chevy. Dodge is the 360. Just want to clear
> > things up. I take my Ford pride very seriously. Thanx.
> >
> > --
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > | Ezekial | 66 Mustang Fastback, 88 F-150 | ezekial mindless.com |
> > |----Ezekials Cove: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.galstar.com/~derrick/index.html ------|
> > |--- Phantom Chat: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.galstar.com/~derrick/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=live_chat ---|
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------....

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