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80-96-list Digest Sun, 18 Mar 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 055

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Re: OK I give up  Carburetor
Re: OK I give up  Carburetor
Re: We're having fun...

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From: "Dawn Chere" <dawnchere qwest.net>
Subject: Re: OK I give up  Carburetor
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:46:30 -0800


I give up  I had to drive her over to the school and she didn't try to stall
once. . . I guess she "fixed herself".    I know thats not possible but she
didn't try to stall at all.  I don't get it.  Anyway just thought I'd let ya
all know and thank you for those that posted messages back.

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Subject: [80-96-list] OK I give up Carburetor


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IF I just tear into my carburetor to take it apart will I screw it up.
My husband said something about a float in the carb sticking and that that
might be why its stalling out on me when I take my foot off the gas.
Cabin Fever is on,
Dawn Chere
Calhan, CO
78 Ford F250 XLT 460
78 Ford F100 Straight 6 ($500 OBO)
90 Plym Voyager SE V6 ($1000 OBO)
91 Dodge Shadow ES Convertible
86 Shelby Charger Turbo
79 Porsche 931


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From: Spruce1495 aol.com
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:37:33 EST
Subject: Re: OK I give up  Carburetor

Dawn,
      You probably drove it enough to dislodge a piece of dirt, sand ,etc.
that was in the needle seat. That would not let the float seat and slow the
flow of gas to the bowl, thus causing a flooding reaction. It may or may not
stay cleared. Depends on filters in line ,etc.

Bill in KY



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From: "Les Williams" <lesw cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: We're having fun...
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:49:26 +1100



Hi nephew Phred and Wayne

O.K. I can take a ribbing, I can even cop bit of a roast, as long as we're
all in on it, and I thought that's all it was, till Wayne threw the curved
ball. Nephew Phred, you gotta get out more, get out from behind the
books & theory and get your hands dirty.
Now Wayne is moving up to 351 power, I'll give him a target. There was
an F100 pulling 11's over the quarter, down here, about 3 years back.
A 351 4V dual turbos on Propane. No 'funny gas' either, it's as
good as illegal down here now.

I do consede the point that it is difficult to compare engine performance
between the polution controlled versions, and what we can do de-smogging and
running on B-B-Que gas, and as we have discussed before, you still want your
petrol too.

When You & Wayne refer to 'taking up bandwith' - what are you refering to ?
Clogging this list with posts ?? I only get, maybe 1 or 2 posts a day,
someday's none, nothing like it used to be.

' Another 5 minute job turned into a very stressfull 45 minute
what-in-the-heck-did-I-do-now job' - Been there done that all too often,
isn't it amazing how the little details can trip you up. Had trouble fitting
a gearbox, the Blessed Thing wouldn't slide all the way home like it should
have. New clutch kit used, spline checked, check alignment, all the usual
stuff etc. The new internal slave cylinder was seized half way down it's
stroke  - Bugger !!!

Don't worry Phred, a lot of people have already doubted my sanity, just ask
them to believe that a 351 V8 is fed water at the rate of 3.8 ltrs per hour,
over propane no less ... for performance ... See ??? Credibility shot to
pieces already !!! Obviously a 'cot case'.
I can appreciate how the likes of AK Miller must have copped it,
successfully driving a Cleverland V8 powered car up Pikes Peak all those
years ago, and the fuel of choice was Propane, I'll bet a few people thought
that was insane tooo, so therefore, I guess that puts me in good company.
Now just to help cement the theory that I could be 'cracked', have you had
any experience, playing around in the MSD toy room, in Sequential Turbo
installations and V8's ?? - similar theory of operation to the mazda rx-7
mkIII+ ?
Any takers? Don't worry, the result will end up on a real V8 Ford, and that
could be Real Fun ...

BTW, pulled the plugs on Saturday, 20,000 k's, looked just like new,
regapped to .60 thou and refit.
For what it's worth the coil output voltage was in excess of 40KV, OK then,
the meter redlines at 40KV ... I guess that's not too bad considering the
original bosch installed dizzy was good for only 20-25KV.

Late breaking news:
It has been brought to my attention of a 4 Ltr V8 on the west coast of OZ,
running at 10.5 to 1 compression ratio with a whipple supercharger capable
of up to 30 LB Boost, Fueled on LPG,  and Methanol injection, Yes, the race
fuel, putting out 600+ HP, at the wheels in street trim, and he's not got
MSD
yet !!! This bloke seems to be one very smart cookie, solving a couple of
the high speed LPG problems along the way and not using an M&M mixer.
I'm impressed !! And you thought 9.5 to 1 was optomistic ...
I'd love to know where that puts him concerning the smog laws,
he's still not using petrol.

Still having fun ...

regards

[uncle] Les, Still lost in the land of OZ



> Hello Uncle Les,
>
>  Sorry for the infuriating commentary, in pondering my action I guess I
can
> simplify it down to the fact that I was jealous that Wayne is doing a
great
> thing (again!) to his truck. To have the time and money. As a punishment
for
> taking up bandwidth and readers time, I will seek
"the-other-domestic-brand"
> company truck to drive my next errand and pretend to be content.
>
>  But Les, I never doubted your skills as a mechanic,  though perhaps
doubted
> your sanity at times. I will also admit that with 209K miles on my 302
that
> I considered shopping for a used 351 from a junk yard to start rebuilding
it
> for future use. There again, time and money have other priorities at this
> date. When I was towing the flatbed with a 120 bales of hay it would be
nice
> to have just a bit more muscle under the hood. I could not say however
that
> the Broncos I mentioned would of done any better that my truck and yes
those
> are not the same 351's you get to play with. These were a disappointment.
> Surely the engine was detuned to meet emission regulations and the
computer
> must of been programmed conservatively.
>
>  Not sure if the readers understand the "dak-dak" reference. That's the VW
> motor sound when it's running?
>
>  Regarding one liners to plant into the mind of the undecided ignition
> shoppers, and I've used it many times before, I just ask them if they
would
> prefer to light a fire with a bic lighter or use a torch.
>  Yes both will do the job, but you can sure generate the BTU's in a hurry
> with a torch. The fuel needs to be completely consumed for each stroke so
> that's why the spark last for an entire 20 degrees of crankshaft rotation
at
> all RPM's. Stay out of customer's underpants, not a good idea.
>
>  And on the subject of ignition something interesting happened last
> week-end: I was rerouting the MSD harness going to the coil and I
unplugged
> the direct TFI harness to shuffle things around. No big deal right?
>  I get everything looking somewhat civilized again and the truck will not
> start. It just cranks and cranks, but no fire, no pop, nada.
>  I'm not sure if you have the TFI coil system or not but after a little
> diagnosing and getting back to a VERY rudementary analysis of what I had
> just done, I discovered that in the harness side coil connector, one of
its
> pins had misaligned itself. This did not allow that pin to mate to the
coil,
> thus no spark. I guess in the process of reconnecting the coil, I must of
> pushed that pin off to the side just enough to cause it to slip out of its
> intended target. The connector did feel nice and snug - of course the pins
> makes it harder to push in completely. And the coil being mounted at the
> back of the engine, it appeared correct.  Another 5 minute job turned into
a
> very stressfull 45 minute what-in-the-heck-did-I-do-now job.
>
>  And I appeased Aunty Sheila, she's done crying for now, and the photo
album
> is safe - until she figures out where we hid it.  I KNOW I did not take
your
> post out of context, and my feelings were not hurt, just surprised!
>
>  Well it has been a pleasure addressing the list once again. Ken, I saw
the
> photo you posted, it looks great.
>
> Phred
>













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