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80-96-list Digest Sat, 10 Mar 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 051

In This Issue:
Fuel Pump Troubleshooting
Re: Fuel Pump Troubleshooting
Missed the Spring Break shootout
Re: Fuel Pump Troubleshooting
Re: There's Booze in the Blender

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From: "Mark Salvetti" <msalvetti mediaone.net>
Subject: Fuel Pump Troubleshooting
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:03:03 -0500


I'm trying to troubleshoot my truck, which won't start.  It's a 1986
F150, 5.0L, manual transmission, 2WD, dual tanks.

Everything was fine when I parked the truck in the driveway one night
this week.  Beginning the next morning, it will turn over great, but not
start.  I have plenty of spark, but it looks like the fuel pumps are not
running.  I can't hear them when I turn the ignition switch to run, and
there's no pressure at the fuel rail (no fuel squirts out when I depress
the Schraeder valve).

I also tried to force the fuel pumps to run by grounding the terminal on
the self-test connector, and that didn't work either.  So to me that
suggests it's not a computer problem, but more likely a fuse or relay.

I pulled the codes, and the only odd thing I'm getting is a 14 in
memory, which I think means ignition pickup was erratic.

I considered that the ignition module on the distributor might have
failed, but I replaced that last year and when it failed, I had no
spark, but I think the fuel pumps ran (I seem to remember a fuel odor in
the exhaust).

My Haynes says the fuel pump relay should be on the left fender, but I
can't locate it there.  I guess I can check for voltage at the pump down
on the frame rail.  I'll probably do that next.  I suspect I won't find
any.

So, I'm looking for the location of the fuel pump relay, and some ideas
as to what might be wrong and what I should check next.

Thanks!

Mark Salvetti
Saugus, MA


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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:02:08 -0800
From: chuck & kathy sanborn <slammer deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pump Troubleshooting


At 06:03 PM 3/10/01 -0500, you wrote:
>  I have plenty of spark, but it looks like the fuel pumps are not
>running.

Squirt some gas into the carb and see if it starts.  If it does, your
pumps are probably clogged or need replacing.
Chucl



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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:08:42 EST
Subject: Missed the Spring Break shootout

Gang,
Well, as I said before, the best laid plans of mice and men.....
My motor took longer than anticipated, so I missed the SBSO. BUT, the new
heart is in and pumping fine. I still have some tuning to do and some
adjustments to make, but all in all, it was a definite learning experience. I
am making a parts number list and any custom modifications I had to make so
it would work. This will be listed on my website very soon, along with pics
of the install. What a rush of power the 351 has, I cant wait to get this
thing tuned right and tear off a couple of runs at the track.


Better to be a racer for a moment, than a spectator for a lifetime
Later,
Wayne Foy
94 Flareside SC 351 L powered
ClubFTE #57
NLOC #484
2000 #4 Top Truck
1999 #2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.flareside.com
ICQ#58060858



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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:56:09 -0800
From: Bob Kennedy <bobkennedy qwest.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pump Troubleshooting


Take a look at the Fuel pump circuit breaker. It's releases in an accident
to prevent fuel flow when the engine can't run. It'll be a little black box
on the passenger side of the transmission hump, up close to the fire wall.
There is a little white button on top of it to reset it. Push it down and
then turn on the switch and see if you hear the fuel pump(s).

As years go by, that thing will trip with the closing of a door too hard
(BTDT).


Good luck,

Bob


Mark Salvetti wrote:

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>
> I'm trying to troubleshoot my truck, which won't start.  It's a 1986
> F150, 5.0L, manual transmission, 2WD, dual tanks.
>
> Everything was fine when I parked the truck in the driveway one night
> this week.  Beginning the next morning, it will turn over great, but not
> start.  I have plenty of spark, but it looks like the fuel pumps are not
> running.  I can't hear them when I turn the ignition switch to run, and
> there's no pressure at the fuel rail (no fuel squirts out when I depress
> the Schraeder valve).
>
> I also tried to force the fuel pumps to run by grounding the terminal on
> the self-test connector, and that didn't work either.  So to me that
> suggests it's not a computer problem, but more likely a fuse or relay.
>
> I pulled the codes, and the only odd thing I'm getting is a 14 in
> memory, which I think means ignition pickup was erratic.
>
> I considered that the ignition module on the distributor might have
> failed, but I replaced that last year and when it failed, I had no
> spark, but I think the fuel pumps ran (I seem to remember a fuel odor in
> the exhaust).
>
> My Haynes says the fuel pump relay should be on the left fender, but I
> can't locate it there.  I guess I can check for voltage at the pump down
> on the frame rail.  I'll probably do that next.  I suspect I won't find
> any.
>
> So, I'm looking for the location of the fuel pump relay, and some ideas
> as to what might be wrong and what I should check next.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark Salvetti
> Saugus, MA
>
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From: "Tim Mortimore" <tcm evergo.net>
Subject: Re: There's Booze in the Blender
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:22:08 -0800

I've been a long time subscriber to the pre 61 list, but I have some
questions regarding my 88 E-150.

I'm curious about a couple things that I'm sure you guys know.
Are the performance chip upgrades offered on the FTE site worth the money?
I'm not looking to hotrod around, but if these chips would improve my towing
capability without hurting mileage (or possibly the AOD transmission), I
guess I'd be rooting for my current chip to go out. My rig has a 302/AOD.

I've replaced the steering box (twice-once on their nickel). the steering
still leaves something to be desired. Is there such a thing as an
aftermarket Rack steering system that produces good results?

Thanks in advance for any input.

Tim Mortimore
58 panel
88 E-150




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