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80-96-list Digest Fri, 05 Jan 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 005

In This Issue:
Archives and surging
Re: Headers
Re: Archives and surging
Re: Archives and surging
300 Ex. Manifold Gasket Repair
Re: Headers
Re: Headers
Long Beach High Perfomance Swap Meet
ADMIN: 2001 Supernationals Info
Possible revocation of SB42
power windows

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From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
Subject: Archives and surging
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:49:47 -0700


Greetings,

I went 4wheeling with a friend for lunch and had a strange surging on the
way back down.  I wanted to check the archives before asking anything, but
was unable to find a link to the archives on the web page.  Does anyone know
where it is?  It didn't seem to be anywhere obvious on the fte site.

Thanks,

Chip

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From: rocky50 ev1.net
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:14:15 -0600
Subject: Re: Headers



      You are right, the headers off a Mustang will not work on a
truck. I bought a 95 302HO Mustang crate motor with SS shorty
headers and if I remember right on one side it will hit the frame or
firewall, anyway I went to Ford and bought SS Shorty Headers for a
truck ($250), picked up some "HI-Temp" (1200deg.) flat black spray
paint and a set of header lock bolts ($40 from Jegs) and after
10,000 miles and a year they look just fine. I also bought a SS
"offroad Y" pipe made by Bossanni ($250) and the muffler shop did
the rest. You can leave out the paint but do not scrimp out on the
header lock bolts, I had to learn the hard way.

Moe
85 F150 orig. 300/6 now 302HO

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From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
Subject: Re: Archives and surging
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:18:45 -0700


Ok, here it is.  I made a guess and found it:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/search/index.php

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Schick [mailto:jschick aafp.org]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 3:13 PM
> To: CAtkinson Circadence.com
> Subject: Re: [80-96-list] Archives and surging
>
>
> If you get a response to the archives question off-list,
> could you share it with me? I couldn't find them either... TIA!
>
> Justin
> 85 F-150 300/4 spd./4X4
>
> >>> CAtkinson Circadence.com 01/05/01 03:49PM >>>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I went 4wheeling with a friend for lunch and had a strange
> surging on the
> way back down.  I wanted to check the archives before asking
> anything, but
> was unable to find a link to the archives on the web page.
> Does anyone know
> where it is?  It didn't seem to be anywhere obvious on the fte site.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chip
>
>

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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 17:20:43 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Archives and surging


At 04:49 PM 1/5/01, you wrote:

>Greetings,
>
>I went 4wheeling with a friend for lunch and had a strange surging on the
>way back down.  I wanted to check the archives before asking anything, but
>was unable to find a link to the archives on the web page.  Does anyone know
>where it is?  It didn't seem to be anywhere obvious on the fte site.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Chip


Go to the Search then select Archives as the item you wish to search.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts




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From: sandrat ford-trucks.net
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 23:24:50 GMT
Subject: 300 Ex. Manifold Gasket Repair



I've heard a fluttering noise lately coming from my 91 300 Inline six, so I
figured "exhaust manifold gasket."  Took her to the dealer, and at first the
mechanic said my air pump was going, and they wanted $300+ to fix that.  I described
to him the noise I heard, and that the truck only did it above 2 grand, and
while going down the road.  So, he drove it and looked at again and said he
saw exhaust gases and soot coming from the #6 port.  Told me I may need a new
rear manifold as well as the air pump, which came to grand total of $800.  Uh...no.
I did the air pump myself today for $60, and I think I'm going to check the
manifold next weekend.  Is there anything I should know before I start going
at it?  I'm pretty sure I gotta take the Intake off, right?  And, is $150-$180
too much for a rear manifold, if I need one?
Thanks, Robert
Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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From: LGRanch aol.com
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 18:15:27 EST
Subject: Re: Headers

Yes I have experience with headers and the ford 302. I own a 90 full size
Bronco. I bought a set of Pacesetter ceramic coated shorty headers from JC
Whitney. Paid $230.  I found out a couple of things, only use socket head cap
screws to bolt the headers on. All other bolts are imposible to tighten. Do
not use gaskets. If you do the headers likely wll not fit the cross over
pipe. If you really want to use gaskets then be prepared to cut the crossover
pipe and strech it 1/8 of inch using a SS band clamp.

The accessory brackets need to manufactuered by you. NO ONE makes these. They
are not hard to make , but fitting them does take some time.

Finally retighten the headers every 10,000 miles or so.



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From: "Rex Bennett" <rexbennett eibiz.net>
Subject: Re: Headers
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 23:47:12 -0600


Are the headers Ford aftermarket?  I wasn't aware that Ford was selling
aftermarket headers for the trucks.

Rex

-----Original Message-----
From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of rocky50 ev1.net
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 4:14 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Headers




      You are right, the headers off a Mustang will not work on a
truck. I bought a 95 302HO Mustang crate motor with SS shorty
headers and if I remember right on one side it will hit the frame or
firewall, anyway I went to Ford and bought SS Shorty Headers for a
truck ($250), picked up some "HI-Temp" (1200deg.) flat black spray
paint and a set of header lock bolts ($40 from Jegs) and after
10,000 miles and a year they look just fine. I also bought a SS
"offroad Y" pipe made by Bossanni ($250) and the muffler shop did
the rest. You can leave out the paint but do not scrimp out on the
header lock bolts, I had to learn the hard way.

Moe
85 F150 orig. 300/6 now 302HO



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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 09:48:24 -0800
From: chuck & kathy sanborn <slammer deltanet.com>
Subject: Long Beach High Perfomance Swap Meet


This is cross posted...
Does anyone have the 2001 dates for the Long Beach Swap Meets?
Thanks,
Chuck


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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 13:19:37 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: 2001 Supernationals Info


If you have any interest in 1948-1979 F-series trucks, the
2001 Supernationals is THE place to go to. Over 800 trucks
in the show each year, plus hundreds more parked all over
the strip. Vendors, hundreds of awards, model car and truck
exhibit, t-shirts, tech shows and a great parade with about
2 miles of Effies!

The show is at the Grand Hotel and Convention center in
Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. You can book at room at any of the
many hotels around town or camp in the nearby Smokey Mountains.
There is a trolley/bus system so getting around town is easy.
Lots of fun things to do, Dollywood, the Smokey Mountains,
rides, outlet mails, craft centers, and much more. There is
something for the whole family.

The Grand Hotel can be contacted at:
3171 Parkway
Pigeon Forge, Tennessee 37863-3309
(865) 453-1000

Pat Ford Promotions can be contacted at:
1920 Council Avenue
Statesville, NC 28625
(704) 872-7327
Registrations should be sent to Pat Ford Promotions. Call or
write them to get a registration form.
Pre-registration for your truck: $20
Registration after April 15th: $25

Ford Truck Enthusiasts will be staying at the Howard Johnson.
The best reservation prices I've found was on www.expedia.com.
Every hotel listed near the Convention Center, are rated as
the same number of stars so price and location will be your
primary considerations.

The closest hotel to the Grand is the Holiday Inn.  It will
run about 30% more than the Howard Johnson's.  The HoJo is
within walking distance of the Grand (about 2 blocks).
The next hotel down the strip is the Days Inns.  It runs
slightly more than the HoJo and is further away from the Grand.

FTE stays at the HoJo when we reserve early.  Last year we
were at the Days Inn because we didn't reserve early enough.

Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts





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Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 11:21:22 -0800
From: chuck & kathy sanborn <slammer deltanet.com>
Subject: Possible revocation of SB42


Richard Granger from our Falcon list sends this great address for all of
you interested in the possible SB42 revocation:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/smogrfg/

Chuck


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From: "Sam Means" <smeans inetport.com>
Subject: power windows
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 06:07:55 -0600


The drive mechanisms in F150 windows and  Bronco windows and tailgates ,at
least into upper 80's, are subject to failure in the right-angle drive
devices. The coupling consists of a metal triangle fitting within three
plastic posts  something like the coupling in an impact wrench. The basic
idea, I thing, is to allow slippage in case the window is impeded from going
up or down. I have never  noticed, by sound at least, any such slippage in
any of the vehicles I hase owned. I have had several failures such as Jerry
described. I have never bought one of the kits but assume they have
replacement parts for the plastic posts which break off and subsequently
seem to grind up into small pieces. I have repaired several with..junk.
Remove the motor/drive mechanism...which requires drilling  some access
holes through the outer metal exposed when the door panel is removed. If I
remember correctly, there were center punch marks made before painting to
locate holes to be drilled. Then several of the factory
assembly(non-removeable) nuts must be ground off. Disassemble the drive
mechanism and clean out the old grease and plastic fragments. Choose some
combination of ball bearings or old nuts which will fit in and take the
place of the plastic posts..fill with with grease and re-install
mechanism.My repairs have worked beautifully...just takes some work ,a
little frustration, and a little lost skin.
Sam Means

From: "Jerry Godsey" <godzilla51 prodigy.net>
Subject: Power window troubleshooting?
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:26:15 -0800


Is there a foolproof way to tell if I have to replace my power window lifts?
Both of mine have stopped working in my 88 F-150 XLT.
I have seen gear replacement kits for sale.  Do the gears go bad on these
motors? Both sides run, they will lower the window, just not raise it back
up.  You can hear the motor running, but nothing happens.
Any help would be appreciated.



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