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80-96-list Digest Mon, 05 Feb 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 025

In This Issue:
Rough trip & Transfer case questions
Re: Oil plug leak
Re: Rough trip & Transfer case questions
ADMIN: F100 Supernats Flyer now online
ADMIN: NEW Ford Lightning Rod Concept on web site
Looking for F150 4x4 suspension parts
Re: Timing gears?
Re: Timing gears?

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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 00:41:59 -0500
From: Theodore D Mills <n3kwq martnet.com>
Subject: Rough trip & Transfer case questions


Here's a good one for you all.....

Just got back (barely) from a trip to Indiana.

Bad enough the trip was for a funeral, but the old reliable Blue Monster
gave me fits.

First, the ignition actuator rod broke.  At least it went with the truck
running.....
Swartz Ford in Decatur Indiana was good enough to squeeze me in first thing
Friday morning to fix it, and they had it done before noon.
Kinda frosts me to pay over $100 labor to put in an $11 part, but I had no
tools, and working on it in a motel parking lot in 15 degree weather with
wind chills well below zero was not too appealing.

Well, I get it back with the rear ABS light on.  Dealer says they can take
a look, but it would take a while.
I pass on that and figure I'll check it out later.

All's well for the last running around on friday and the 12 hour run home
to S.E. Pennsylvania.

Until.....

I get off the PA Turnpike and after leaving the tollbooth, I get a gear
grinding noise like you tried to shift with out the clutch when I lift off
the gas to slow for the curve in the exit ramp!

I managed to nurse it home, and checked things out this morning.

I'm pretty sure it's something in the transfer case.

Moves forward ok in 2hi, grinds in reverse in 2hi.

Won't move at all in 4hi without the hubs locked

Seems ok in 4lo.

Any ideas?

Add to all this I discover the R/R inner axle seal is leaking oil all over
the brake.  I also found the R/R adjuster cable was off while looking for
the oil leak.  Maybe that's what set the ABS light?

The details on the truck are:

91 F-250 4X4 SC
158K miles
460
E4OD
13-56 transfer case
3.55 LS 10.25" rear.

I'm gonna call around about getting the transfer case and axle seal done, I
might do the brakes my self if the weather holds up.

Anybody know what the going prices is for a transfer case rebuild?

I'm figuring around a kilobuck...... hope I'm wrong.


Ted

N3KWQ
Aston, Pa

84 Mustang GT (in pieces)
85 Ranger XL 2WD 2.8L
91 F-250 XLT Lariat SC 4X4x460
94 Taurus LX wagon 3.8L

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From: "Michael J. Pasznik, Jr." <mjp exit109.com>
Subject: Re: Oil plug leak
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:46:24 -0500


Chris,

   I've done this too many times.  Head over to Pep Boys (or whatever your
local parts store is) and pick up a new plug for $5 with a gasket.  One of
the smarter things Ford did was to make the oil pan out of hard metal and
the drain plug out of softer stuff.  Easy fix, so long as the leak is slow
enough to get you to the store...

-Mike

----- Original Message -----
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:09:02 -0800
From: Chris McKinnon <chrism cnx.net>
Subject: Oil plug leak


I've developed a leak from my oil plug. I tried tightening the plug but I
think it got stripped out last time the oil was changed. What is the best
fix for this?

Chris





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From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
Subject: Re: Rough trip & Transfer case questions
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:58:10 -0700


I can't comment on the transfer case, for the brakes and seals, if you can
get the axles out the seals aren't too hard to replace.  I have a Dana-60
rear, so yours is much different I'm sure, but I was able to use a claw
hammer to get the seals out once I pulled the axles.  I then used a block of
wood or brass against the seal and a mallet to tap/pound the seal back in.
Not too bad really.  Probably a weekend or less of a project.

Oh, I saw someone parting out an F-250 on the classifieds in the
ford-trucks.com web site.  They were in Nebraska.  You might be able to get
the transfer case that way for less.

Chip

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Theodore D Mills [mailto:n3kwq martnet.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 10:42 PM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Cc: offroad-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [80-96-list] Rough trip & Transfer case questions
>
>
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> Here's a good one for you all.....
>
> Just got back (barely) from a trip to Indiana.
>
> Bad enough the trip was for a funeral, but the old reliable
> Blue Monster
> gave me fits.
>
> First, the ignition actuator rod broke.  At least it went
> with the truck
> running.....
> Swartz Ford in Decatur Indiana was good enough to squeeze me
> in first thing
> Friday morning to fix it, and they had it done before noon.
> Kinda frosts me to pay over $100 labor to put in an $11 part,
> but I had no
> tools, and working on it in a motel parking lot in 15 degree
> weather with
> wind chills well below zero was not too appealing.
>
> Well, I get it back with the rear ABS light on.  Dealer says
> they can take
> a look, but it would take a while.
> I pass on that and figure I'll check it out later.
>
> All's well for the last running around on friday and the 12
> hour run home
> to S.E. Pennsylvania.
>
> Until.....
>
> I get off the PA Turnpike and after leaving the tollbooth, I
> get a gear
> grinding noise like you tried to shift with out the clutch
> when I lift off
> the gas to slow for the curve in the exit ramp!
>
> I managed to nurse it home, and checked things out this morning.
>
> I'm pretty sure it's something in the transfer case.
>
> Moves forward ok in 2hi, grinds in reverse in 2hi.
>
> Won't move at all in 4hi without the hubs locked
>
> Seems ok in 4lo.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Add to all this I discover the R/R inner axle seal is leaking
> oil all over
> the brake.  I also found the R/R adjuster cable was off while
> looking for
> the oil leak.  Maybe that's what set the ABS light?
>
> The details on the truck are:
>
> 91 F-250 4X4 SC
> 158K miles
> 460
> E4OD
> 13-56 transfer case
> 3.55 LS 10.25" rear.
>
> I'm gonna call around about getting the transfer case and
> axle seal done, I
> might do the brakes my self if the weather holds up.
>
> Anybody know what the going prices is for a transfer case rebuild?
>
> I'm figuring around a kilobuck...... hope I'm wrong.
>
>
> Ted
>
> N3KWQ
> Aston, Pa
>
> 84 Mustang GT (in pieces)
> 85 Ranger XL 2WD 2.8L
> 91 F-250 XLT Lariat SC 4X4x460
> 94 Taurus LX wagon 3.8L
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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:44:35 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: F100 Supernats Flyer now online


The main page of the web site ( www.ford-trucks.com ) now has a
link to a page with scanned images of the F-100 Supernationals
flyer.  You can print these to register for the show or just to
read more about this great Ford truck show.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 17:09:14 -0600
Subject: Timing gears?
From: "Bill Doyle, Jr." <wgerard bpsi.net>


Hi gang-  I'm new to listing on the board but have been listening and
enjoying the posts for a while.  Here's my problem.  I have a 1990 F150 with
an I6 & AT with about 129,000 on it..  I've been having tune up problems.
The timing seems to advance usually within about a couple of days of getting
it tuned.  I've had the timing reset about 3 times in the last month.  The
truck starts hard and tends to miss when I'm accelerating lightly in the
lower range. My mechanic says its a timing gear issue.  I know its a
computer controlled advance but it still is getting out of wack. I always
thought there was a timing chain to content with.  Any ideas?  Thanks for
your help in advance.
--
  Bill Doyle
 billdoyle wgerard.com


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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:12:32 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: NEW Ford Lightning Rod Concept on web site


Check out the hot new Ford Lightning Rod Concept on the web
site!

http://www.ford-trucks.com/news/newsc4.html

You've never seen tires like the ones on this truck!

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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From: Nite4x aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:46:23 EST
Subject: Looking for F150 4x4 suspension parts


   Anyone have a Bronco or F150 4x4 parts truck around?   I might need the
RH beam and axle assy...  possibly the whole axle assy.  Please contact me
off list if you can help.  NY/NJ/CT area.

Thanks,

Joe

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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Timing gears?
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:04:38 -0800

I believe the inline 6's all use a gear drive instead of a timing chain.


Garrett Nelson
www.1966ford.com


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Bill Doyle, Jr.
 To: 1980-1996 ford list
 Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 3:09 PM
 Subject: [80-96-list] Timing gears?


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 Hi gang-  I'm new to listing on the board but have been listening and
 enjoying the posts for a while.  Here's my problem.  I have a 1990 F150 with
 an I6 & AT with about 129,000 on it..  I've been having tune up problems.
 The timing seems to advance usually within about a couple of days of getting
 it tuned.  I've had the timing reset about 3 times in the last month.  The
 truck starts hard and tends to miss when I'm accelerating lightly in the
 lower range. My mechanic says its a timing gear issue.  I know its a
 computer controlled advance but it still is getting out of wack. I always
 thought there was a timing chain to content with.  Any ideas?  Thanks for
 your help in advance.
 --
    Bill Doyle
   billdoyle wgerard.com



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From: "big red" <big_red_59 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Timing gears?
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:57:43


The 4.9 uses a gear drive instead of a chain. So you don't have to worry
about chain stretch causing the problem. Maybe you have a broken tooth or
they are worn enough to skip a beat. Possibilities, but maybe someone else
knows more before you tear into it.
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