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80-96-list Digest Sat, 13 Jan 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 011

In This Issue:
Re: ADMIN: More... New list policy
Re: ADMIN: More... New list policy
Re: ADMIN: More... New list policy
Re: ADMIN: More... New list policy
Oil pan woes
Coolant burp.
Re: ADMIN: More... New list policy
Re: Coolant burp.

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From: b-khanson juno.com
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 13:31:29 -0600
Subject: Re: ADMIN: More... New list policy




> Let me put it this way.... if you ran a business and
> someone wrote you a check that bounced, would
> you take a check from them again?

> Ken Payne
> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

If the bad check writer was an established customer
and the bad check was written in error and/or due to
no fault of his own, ABSOLUTELY.

I think the new policy is needlessly harsh.

Bruce Hanson
Apple Valley, MN

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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:17:11 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: More... New list policy


At 02:31 PM 1/13/01, you wrote:



>> Let me put it this way.... if you ran a business and
>> someone wrote you a check that bounced, would
>> you take a check from them again?
>
>> Ken Payne
>> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
>
>If the bad check writer was an established customer
>and the bad check was written in error and/or due to
>no fault of his own, ABSOLUTELY.
>
>I think the new policy is needlessly harsh.
>
>Bruce Hanson
>Apple Valley, MN

Bruce,

The key difference is you aren't paying for the lists.

It may be, in your opinion, needlessly harsh, but until you're
ready to put your assets at risk it stays.  If you want to be
exempt, you can sign a form stating you'll assume 100% of the
costs associated with damage caused to FTE by a virus
transmitted from your computer. I'm willing to bet you won't
sign it because it would be >>your<< assets at risk instead of
mine. Fair?

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com




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From: "bigred" <big_red_59 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: More... New list policy
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:55:33 -0600


Just my 2 cents here about all this. If for some reason anyone is too cheap to
purchase anti virus software and they do not want any viruses on their computer
go to http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pcpitstop.com You can run antivirus software for FREE as often
as you like. That way you shall not infect anyone else.

59 F-250 Camper Special 390, C-6, original dana 60 w/4.56
87 F-150 4x4 3" body, 4" susp. covered in dust, 5.0,C-6
94 Mustang 3.8 gas mileage machine

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From: Lwskywalk aol.com
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 16:42:25 EST
Subject: Re: ADMIN: More... New list policy


sounds pretty fair Ken i think you are doin a excellant job keep up the good
work

Luke

2-94's 351's
1-2001-superchew 5.4
1-2001 explorer sport 4.0 SHOC
1-96- explorer 4.0

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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 20:02:28 -0500
From: S Spaulding <ss80xt worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Oil pan woes


Have we stopped whining about Ken's new rule yet?

I went out today to find a big puddle of oil under my truck.  My SECOND
oil pan is now history.  Has anyone else had to replace two of them?  It
is a '91 302.  This one only lasted 4.5 years, and I can't get under it
any more.

I put two quarts of oil in it and started visiting my local Ford
dealers.  Time for a trade.  I really can't drive a manual transmission
now, anyway.  One dealer has a 2000 F250SD 7.3L Lariat with 10,000 miles
for $28,000.  That is the only 8' bed regular cab 4x4 between two
dealers, new or used.

I love being in debt up to my butt.

Steve Spaulding
'91 F150 4x4 302 5 speed (to be replaced)
'96 Crown Vic LX Perf Pack (not paid for yet)

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From: "tuscola" <tuscola tds.net>
Subject: Coolant burp.
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:31:57 -0500


My 2 cents on Fred Moreno's burping problem. I had a similar problem with a
350ci Olds Diesel engine. It did the burping or gurgling sound. The cause of
this, in this engine was the start of a head gasket leak. When the sound
appeared the heat would all but disappear, then with a change of engine rpm
the heat would come back. I was UN-aware of what was causing this  till by
accident I was looking at the overflow container when this condition
appeared and a big blast of air bubbles appeared, and the heat returned.
Proved to be a head gasket leak,  years after it appeared again and again a
bad head gasket, with a minor leak. I had to add very little coolant and at
the beginning the engine did not overheat.

Now I am having a low heat problem in a 79' full size Bronco with the 305
engine. So far I have found the thermostat installed backwards, a old
collapsed hose on the water pump that goes to the "T" and heater core (think
that this is the suction side of the pump).  I am now getting some heat, I
have even blocked 1/2 of the radiator to try and get more heat. The radiator
upper hose and the supply hose to the heater is now quite hot to the touch.
The return hose on the heater is barely warm. If I shut the blower off for a
short time both hoses feel quite hot, if I turn the blower back on I get a
blast of heat for a short time and the hose's temp goes back to what they
were.
Does this indicate blockage of the heater core or in the return line?  Did
note that there is a brand new water pump and radiator. Some one has
installed flushing fittings in the heater hose's, don't know if these could
cause problems. I had thought about reversing the hoses to the core but ran
out of daylight. I just bought this Bronco this week so don't know much of
its history.
Any help would be appreciated, I am wearing my Carharts as a driving suit to
keep warm in my part of Michigans Thumb.
Jim



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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:39:18 -0800
From: Bob Kennedy <bobkennedy uswest.net>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: More... New list policy


Ditto, since when did this become a Democracy? It's your world Ken, rock on.
(And if I inadvertently send a v*rus attached, I didn't mean to...;-)

Have Norton, will travel.


Bob


Lwskywalk aol.com wrote:

> sounds pretty fair Ken i think you are doin a excellant job keep up the good
> work
>
> Luke
>
> 2-94's 351's
> 1-2001-superchew 5.4
> 1-2001 explorer sport 4.0 SHOC
> 1-96- explorer 4.0

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Bellevue, WA 98004
206-224-3000



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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:40:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Chuck Badger <chuckbadger yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Coolant burp.


Since you have plenty of heat on the radiator hoses,
but very little heat on the return line from the
heater core, this would indicate a blocked heater
core.  I would first try reversing the heater hoses at
the heater core so the water flow is the opposite of
what it is now.  If you still have very little heat
after 20-30 miles, you will have to replace the heater
core.  Sometimes when an engine is flushed the junk
ends up blocking the heater core.  Of course, this
isn't noticed in the summer when the engine is
flushed.

Chuck
--- tuscola <tuscola tds.net> wrote:
Snip...

> Now I am having a low heat problem in a 79' full
> size Bronco with the 305
> engine. So far I have found the thermostat installed
> backwards, a old
> collapsed hose on the water pump that goes to the
> "T" and heater core (think
> that this is the suction side of the pump).  I am
> now getting some heat, I
> have even blocked 1/2 of the radiator to try and get
> more heat. The radiator
> upper hose and the supply hose to the heater is now
> quite hot to the touch.
> The return hose on the heater is barely warm. If I
> shut the blower off for a
> short time both hoses feel quite hot, if I turn the
> blower back on I get a
> blast of heat for a short time and the hose's temp
> goes back to what they
> were.
> Does this indicate blockage of the heater core or in
> the return line?  Did
> note that there is a brand new water pump and
> radiator. Some one has
> installed flushing fittings in the heater hose's,
> don't know if these could
> cause problems. I had thought about reversing the
> hoses to the core but ran
> out of daylight. I just bought this Bronco this week
> so don't know much of
> its history.
> Any help would be appreciated, I am wearing my
> Carharts as a driving suit to
> keep warm in my part of Michigans Thumb.
> Jim
>
>
>


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