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80-96-list Digest Fri, 01 Dec 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 250

In This Issue:
Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
F350 stuff continued
Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
Re: Knock Sensor
Re: Knock Sensor
Re: F350 stuff continued
Re: Knock Sensor
4:10 gears and 460
Re: Tires again....
Re: 89 460 F350 Wake Up
Re: Replacing oil pan gasket on 91 F150
Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade

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From: Eric Sneed <ESneed REIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 08:49:36 -0800


Doesn't that allow the axles and front drive shaft to spin to spin? if so
could that possibly damage something? I'm just curious.

Eric
89 F150 4x4 4sp L6 300

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Atkinson, Chip [SMTP:CAtkinson Circadence.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 8:38 AM
> To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
>
>
> If it's a 4x4, can you put it in 4 low and not lock the hubs?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ledski aol.com [mailto:Ledski aol.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 5:19 PM
> > To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: [80-96-list] Slowing Idle for a Parade
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I need to slow down my idling speed on my 94 F350 (460, 4:10,
> > elec. 4spd
> > auto) for using in a parade my daughter is walking in. I've
> > driven it one
> > other time in a parade and don't like shifting out of gear or
> > riding the
> > brake (parking or otherwise). Have any suggestions on the
> > easiest way? After
> > I bought a car with fuel injection I stopped messing with them much.
> >
> > Tim Ledford
> > 94 EB Explorer
> > 94 F350 SC dually (20,000 miles)
> >
> > ledski aol.com
> >
> >
> >

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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 10:21:26 -0700
From: Andrew Antipas <aantipas sopris.net>
Subject: F350 stuff continued


Hi Gang,

I have an '85 F350, CC, 4x4, 4spd (T-18), and a stock carberated 460 w/
4.10 gears. I live in Colorado and use the truck to tow an enclosed car
trailer. Over the mountains the truck labors pulling the trailer which
weights 5,000 pounds loaded. The gap between 3rd and 4th gear is huge
which makes top speed on grades at about 35 mph (not buzzing the motor).
To go much faster makes the engine buzzy. No tach at this point...

Comfortable top speed on the flats is 65 mph. Again, this seems to be
gear limited in 4th. It will go faster in 4th, but you just don't want
to do that for an 8 hour stretch on my way to California. Fuel mileage
is about 10 mpg empty around town and 6-7 mpg over the mountains towing
the trailer.

I'm looking to replace the stock intake and try to fit a set of headers
in there, as well as add an MSD6A box. Gearing though is an expensive
problem. I know FORD made a 5spd that will bolt up to a 460, but I don't
know how do able that is? Other suggestions or ideas on gearing?

Thanks, Andy


------------------------------

From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
Subject: Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:30:43 -0700


It shouldn't damage anything.  It strains the drive train to be in 4wd on
clean pavement, but disconnecting the front wheels from the drive train is
fine.  The drive train will turn, but it won't cause any more wear than
being in 4wd or leaving the hubs locked and the transfer case in 2wd.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Sneed [mailto:ESneed REIL.COM]
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 9:50 AM
> To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
>
>
>
> Doesn't that allow the axles and front drive shaft to spin to
> spin? if so
> could that possibly damage something? I'm just curious.
>
> Eric
> 89 F150 4x4 4sp L6 300
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Atkinson, Chip [SMTP:CAtkinson Circadence.com]
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 8:38 AM
> > To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> > Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
> >
> >
> > If it's a 4x4, can you put it in 4 low and not lock the hubs?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ledski aol.com [mailto:Ledski aol.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 5:19 PM
> > > To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> > > Subject: [80-96-list] Slowing Idle for a Parade
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I need to slow down my idling speed on my 94 F350 (460, 4:10,
> > > elec. 4spd
> > > auto) for using in a parade my daughter is walking in. I've
> > > driven it one
> > > other time in a parade and don't like shifting out of gear or
> > > riding the
> > > brake (parking or otherwise). Have any suggestions on the
> > > easiest way? After
> > > I bought a car with fuel injection I stopped messing with
> them much.
> > >
> > > Tim Ledford
> > > 94 EB Explorer
> > > 94 F350 SC dually (20,000 miles)
> > >
> > > ledski aol.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

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From: Eric Sneed <ESneed REIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:40:28 -0800


Thanks

Eric


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Atkinson, Chip [SMTP:CAtkinson Circadence.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 9:31 AM
> To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
>
>
> It shouldn't damage anything.  It strains the drive train to be in 4wd on
> clean pavement, but disconnecting the front wheels from the drive train is
> fine.  The drive train will turn, but it won't cause any more wear than
> being in 4wd or leaving the hubs locked and the transfer case in 2wd.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Sneed [mailto:ESneed REIL.COM]
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 9:50 AM
> > To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> > Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
> >
> >
> >
> > Doesn't that allow the axles and front drive shaft to spin to
> > spin? if so
> > could that possibly damage something? I'm just curious.
> >
> > Eric
> > 89 F150 4x4 4sp L6 300
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Atkinson, Chip [SMTP:CAtkinson Circadence.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 8:38 AM
> > > To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> > > Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
> > >
> > >
> > > If it's a 4x4, can you put it in 4 low and not lock the hubs?
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ledski aol.com [mailto:Ledski aol.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 5:19 PM
> > > > To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> > > > Subject: [80-96-list] Slowing Idle for a Parade
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > I need to slow down my idling speed on my 94 F350 (460, 4:10,
> > > > elec. 4spd
> > > > auto) for using in a parade my daughter is walking in. I've
> > > > driven it one
> > > > other time in a parade and don't like shifting out of gear or
> > > > riding the
> > > > brake (parking or otherwise). Have any suggestions on the
> > > > easiest way? After
> > > > I bought a car with fuel injection I stopped messing with
> > them much.
> > > >
> > > > Tim Ledford
> > > > 94 EB Explorer
> > > > 94 F350 SC dually (20,000 miles)
> > > >
> > > > ledski aol.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >

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From: "David Anderson (EUS)" <EUSDRAN am1.ericsson.se>
Subject: Re: Knock Sensor
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:04:05 -0600

Thanks for taking the time to help me Rex and Wayne,

This is a 4.9L.  The reason I'm looking for it is because I have a bad pinging problem.  Climbing a grade in high gear or accelerating with a load in the bed.  I plan to first recheck timing.  A trusted mechanic worked on it last and I doubt he would have left it wrong.  I suspect this knock sensor may be bad.  Do they fail a lot?  Plan to do the hammer test.  Rev the engine until some advance occurs as seen on a timing light.  Then tap the block or head with a hammer and look for the timing to retard.  Think it'll work?
David

>>>>I think this is true for the V8's (my 95 5.0L has it in the same place) but
I think all of the 4.9L engines have the knock sensor on the side of the
block like my original post. This was about a 4.9L wasn't it?

OK I went and looked at a company truck we have here, 94 F150 with the 4.9L
and I was close the knock sensor is on the side of the block between the
distributor and the coil not in front of the coil, or at least I'm 98% sure
it's the knock sensor.

I don't remember if your original post says but why are you looking at the
knock sensor anyway?>>>>




------------------------------

From: rexbennett eibiz.net
Subject: Re: Knock Sensor
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:44:25 -0600


This should work, tap close to the sensor on the block.

Check the routing of the spark plug wires and separate them as much as
possible. Although this problem is more common on the V8's it can still
cause knock problems on the 4.9L.

Have you pulled the computer codes to see if anything is showing up?

Have you tried a different grade of gas?  The 4.9L I drove before the truck
I own now did not like regular gas and pinged when I ran regular in it.  I
don't have this problem with my 5.0, it runs fine on any gas as long as the
spark plug wires are routed correctly.

If you do decide that the knock sensors is bad they have different
calibrations for different motors and you may need the calibration code from
your truck or the old sensor.

Rex

-----Original Message-----
From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of David Anderson
(EUS)
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 12:04 PM
To: '80 Ford Truck'
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Knock Sensor


Thanks for taking the time to help me Rex and Wayne,

This is a 4.9L.  The reason I'm looking for it is because I have a bad
pinging problem.  Climbing a grade in high gear or accelerating with a load
in the bed.  I plan to first recheck timing.  A trusted mechanic worked on
it last and I doubt he would have left it wrong.  I suspect this knock
sensor may be bad.  Do they fail a lot?  Plan to do the hammer test.  Rev
the engine until some advance occurs as seen on a timing light.  Then tap
the block or head with a hammer and look for the timing to retard.  Think
it'll work?
David

>>>>I think this is true for the V8's (my 95 5.0L has it in the same place)
but
I think all of the 4.9L engines have the knock sensor on the side of the
block like my original post. This was about a 4.9L wasn't it?

OK I went and looked at a company truck we have here, 94 F150 with the 4.9L
and I was close the knock sensor is on the side of the block between the
distributor and the coil not in front of the coil, or at least I'm 98% sure
it's the knock sensor.

I don't remember if your original post says but why are you looking at the
knock sensor anyway?>>>>






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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 11:41:32 -0700
From: Robert Hansen <rhansen uwyo.edu>
Subject: Re: F350 stuff continued

This sounds familiar to anyone with a 410 gear and 460 combo.  My F-250 4X4
with the 460 runs 65 at 3,000 rpm.  It will run the 75 mph speed but I do
not feel comfortable with the engine humming away.

I think the 5 speed came with the bellhousing cast as part of it on the
newer trucks.  Anyway, my local salvage yard says it is not just an easy
switch.  They do not seem to be available either.  I am looking for a 94 or
95 3/4 ton Supercab, 460, 5 speed, fuel injection, XLT, bucket seat, combo
to replace my 87 with 83,000 miles.  I like the 460 and the ability to lug
around, but the 5 speed would certainly help going down the interstate.  I
used to drag a trailer with 3 Honda TRX 250 quads to the races and it was
fun since the cruise would hold the speed nice and steady.  I have passed
many a car on the uphill stretches between Ft. Collins and Laramie.

I am not surprised that the MPG project truck responded to these bolt on
mods.  These are the same things that Hot rodders have been doing for
years.  A good set of duals tuned for where you want the power and clean
unrestrictive air cleaner always help.  The more cubic inches the more
noticeable the change.

I found 2 steps leaner on the main jets and a power valve that opens at
about 7 on the vacuum really helped both empty and pulling the 24 foot self
contained trailer.  Make sure the accelerator pump is working good also.
The power came up, and so did the mileage.  The dealers used to set these
up so the power valve was just along for the ride.  This was the "help the
mileage" fix.  They had a big dead spot that was always right when you
asked for the power.  This made my truck respond nice and crisp.  I still
run the stock exhaust manifolds because they hold the heat and make life
easier at 7200 feet in the winter.  I did go to duals with Turbos dumping
out in front of the 33 12/16.5 rear tire.  The tail pipe is typically a
reddish brown at the tip.  If you are going to sea level then you may not
be able to go 2 steps leaner on the mains or you will increase the
possibility of smoking it.  I have found going to the Denver area and 5000
feet is no problem.

Let me know about the 5 speed conversion, and how about doing the fuel
injection also.  Retrofitting a diesel out of a super duty would also be a
nice change, and talk about pulling power!

Have a good weekend, keep the pedal off the floor.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Antipas [SMTP:aantipas sopris.net]
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 10:21 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] F350 stuff continued


Hi Gang,

I have an '85 F350, CC, 4x4, 4spd (T-18), and a stock carberated 460 w/
4.10 gears. I live in Colorado and use the truck to tow an enclosed car
trailer. Over the mountains the truck labors pulling the trailer which
weights 5,000 pounds loaded. The gap between 3rd and 4th gear is huge
which makes top speed on grades at about 35 mph (not buzzing the motor).
To go much faster makes the engine buzzy. No tach at this point...

Comfortable top speed on the flats is 65 mph. Again, this seems to be
gear limited in 4th. It will go faster in 4th, but you just don't want
to do that for an 8 hour stretch on my way to California. Fuel mileage
is about 10 mpg empty around town and 6-7 mpg over the mountains towing
the trailer.

I'm looking to replace the stock intake and try to fit a set of headers
in there, as well as add an MSD6A box. Gearing though is an expensive
problem. I know FORD made a 5spd that will bolt up to a 460, but I don't
know how do able that is? Other suggestions or ideas on gearing?

Thanks, Andy


------------------------------

From: rexbennett eibiz.net
Subject: Re: Knock Sensor
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:49:20 -0600



One thing I forgot to mention is make sure you disconnect the SPOUT plug
before setting the base timing.

Rex

-----Original Message-----
From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of
rexbennett eibiz.net
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 12:44 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Knock Sensor



This should work, tap close to the sensor on the block.

Check the routing of the spark plug wires and separate them as much as
possible. Although this problem is more common on the V8's it can still
cause knock problems on the 4.9L.

Have you pulled the computer codes to see if anything is showing up?

Have you tried a different grade of gas?  The 4.9L I drove before the truck
I own now did not like regular gas and pinged when I ran regular in it.  I
don't have this problem with my 5.0, it runs fine on any gas as long as the
spark plug wires are routed correctly.

If you do decide that the knock sensors is bad they have different
calibrations for different motors and you may need the calibration code from
your truck or the old sensor.

Rex

-----Original Message-----
From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of David Anderson
(EUS)
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 12:04 PM
To: '80 Ford Truck'
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Knock Sensor


Thanks for taking the time to help me Rex and Wayne,

This is a 4.9L.  The reason I'm looking for it is because I have a bad
pinging problem.  Climbing a grade in high gear or accelerating with a load
in the bed.  I plan to first recheck timing.  A trusted mechanic worked on
it last and I doubt he would have left it wrong.  I suspect this knock
sensor may be bad.  Do they fail a lot?  Plan to do the hammer test.  Rev
the engine until some advance occurs as seen on a timing light.  Then tap
the block or head with a hammer and look for the timing to retard.  Think
it'll work?
David

>>>>I think this is true for the V8's (my 95 5.0L has it in the same place)
but
I think all of the 4.9L engines have the knock sensor on the side of the
block like my original post. This was about a 4.9L wasn't it?

OK I went and looked at a company truck we have here, 94 F150 with the 4.9L
and I was close the knock sensor is on the side of the block between the
distributor and the coil not in front of the coil, or at least I'm 98% sure
it's the knock sensor.

I don't remember if your original post says but why are you looking at the
knock sensor anyway?>>>>








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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 13:33:12 -0700
From: Robert Hansen <rhansen uwyo.edu>
Subject: 4:10 gears and 460

I should add that I still run the 2 smog pumps on the truck.  They sure are
ugly and in the way.  This way I do not worry about crossing state lines.
I really like this truck but life would be much easier by  stepping up a
few years.  The only thing between me and a new diesel super duty is the
$500 a month I can do so many other things with.

My Explorer has become my main driver, hard to beat the mileage and its
utility.

Only three and a half hours and we can all go enjoy the mountains.  Have a
good weekend.  Keep the shiny side up!




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From: "Jared Templin" <jtemplin21 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tires again....
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 14:21:41 -0800


Chris,

I don't know an answer for sure on your tire size question.  I have a 94
F250 SC 4X4 and went with 265/75R16 tires on 16X8 wheels.  You should be
able to clear the 285's.  I could have probably fit 285's, but I have
running boards that my wife needs since she is only 5'1".  These cause
clearance problems as well as the wraparound bumpers on the 92-96/7 trucks.
The bumper can be shimmed out though if it is too close.  With an F350 you
may be have enough more clearance to fit the 295's especially if you put in
an add a leaf in the front.  The diesels use heavier springs, but also have
the extra motor weight which probably comes out about even for any height
advantage.  I do have the Tuff Country add a leaf leveling springs in the
front of my 250.  It leveled the truck out nicely since the 5 year old
springs were already sagging.  On mine the springs actually lifted it a
little to much to get the proper alignment, so I also had the 1.5-2.5 inch
lift pivot brackets installed.  You have a solid axle so this should not be
a problem.  I like the way the truck looks much better now and don't notice
much difference in ride quality which isn't really a concern if you have a 1
ton truck.

Jared


Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:10:53 -0800 (PST)
From: "Wake Junky....Chris Foye" <cfoye yahoo.com>
Subject: Tires again....


I know this has been discussed til we're blue in the face, pun intended.
I have a 97 F350 CC PSD and I'm upgrading to some Weld 16X8 and want to know
what
size tire I can stuff in the wheel wells.  I'm pretty sure a 285/75/16 will
fit
but,
would like to know if a 295/75/16 would.  I have the stock suspension setup
and
don't plan on lifting it.
Also, has anybody done the front leveling system from Tuff Country?  I'd
like to
get
the front end up and their "add a leaf" front leveling seems like a pretty
good
system.

Thanks,

Chris
97 F350 CC PSD


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From: "Jared Templin" <jtemplin21 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 89 460 F350 Wake Up
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 14:36:12 -0800


OX,

I think you may still be a little off on your truck weight.  It depends how
much gear and fuel you have when you weighed it though.  Also I think you
may have a canopy which would add a little.  The last time I weighed my
truck it was about 6200 lbs.  I'll have to put it on the scale at work again
and see what it is now.  I have been getting slightly better mileage than
you post, but much better than they post even after the gear splitter.  The
dually probably gets a little less anyway, but that was some pretty poor mpg
to start with.  So far I have not gotten below 10 mpg even on tanks with
mostly city driving and a little warmup time.

Jared
94 F250 SC 4X4

Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:04:25 -0500
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: Re: 89 460 F350 Wake Up


"Nichols, Josh" wrote:
>
>Goto www.performanceunlimited.com they did a project for four wheeler
>magazine called 'project MPG'.  Increased power by quite a bit and
>increased
>mileage alot on a four door dually F350 with a FI 460.  They didn't do
>anything to special to the motor, just bolt on stuff.  They have a few good
>charts which will at least show you what helped and what didn't do crap.
>
>Josh
>

They had some pretty sad numbers to begin with. I dropped some metal
junk off at the scrap yard the other day and my 250 and trailer came in
at 9840. Assuming trailer is no more than 3000 lbs, my 250 is close to
their weight. I back this weight guess up with a reading I did ona
certified truck scale when towing my bronc to Co. It read 3500 lb front
axle, 4760 rear axle and 16480 combined. Anyway, that would be 8260 for
entire truck, asuming 800 lbs tongue weight and 500 lbs of gear  brings
me back to about 7000 lbs for the truck itself.

 I G-tech'd (1/4 mile) my 250 a while ago and it ran a 16.9 (I've had
G-tech at the track and it comes within .1 on ET every time). Not too
far off their orignal 0-60 time. I know they added a little HP in 95 for
the 460, but sure sounds like they had a dog to begin with (easier to
improve I guess :-)). Worst city milage I have gotten is 8, with 9.5-10
being normal. I get 12.5 consistantly highway. Only mod I have is a K &
N. DT claims 30 HP for their header/Y-pipe setup. I'm hoping to get at
least half that and maybe 1/2 MPG highway out of it. With all they did
to it, they are about where I am stock. Wonder what would have happened
if they just tuned it up, fixed the fuel pressure and added the
overdrive??

                               OX

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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:05:33 -0600
From: a&b <pedalfox bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Replacing oil pan gasket on 91 F150


My big problem with it was dropping the gasket in the pan trying to snake it
around the pump pick-up. Even w/o oil in the pan it got wet in a couple of
places. Had to clean it well to get it to not squish out. Those little
doohickies that screw into the pan bolt holes in the block and retain the gasket
are priceless.It's a 6-beer, PG (mild profanity) job.
good luck
bill g



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From: "Rick Russell" <r.russell sk.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 03:07:25 -0600


don't go turning that screw!, it has a purpose in life, and it's not for
adjusting the idle.. the computer does control the idle on your truck so
there is no simple way to adjust it lower.
Rick Russell
Automotive Service Technician
1978 Bronco Ranger XLT
1978 Bronco Custom
1986 F250 Banks turbo'd 6.9
too many others
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----- Original Message -----
From: <Lwskywalk aol.com>
To: <80-96-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 7:08 PM
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade


>
> look on your throttle body and there should be a screw at that it where it
is
> on the 351 turn it counter clockwise
>
> luke
>


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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 08:45:01 -0500
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade




Rick Russell wrote:
>
> don't go turning that screw!, it has a purpose in life, and it's not for
> adjusting the idle.. the computer does control the idle on your truck so
> there is no simple way to adjust it lower.

If you want to remove computer control of idle temporarily, just
disconnect air bypass valve connector. If you do mess with idle screw,
make sure you put it back exactly where it was when you started, or when
you reconnect air bypass valve, computer may not be happy, especially if
you changed TPS voltage significantly (might start surging at idle).

                                    OX

> Rick Russell
> Automotive Service Technician
> 1978 Bronco Ranger XLT
> 1978 Bronco Custom
> 1986 F250 Banks turbo'd 6.9
> too many others
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/rrussell/
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Lwskywalk aol.com>
> To: <80-96-list ford-trucks.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 7:08 PM
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Slowing Idle for a Parade
>
> >
> > look on your throttle body and there should be a screw at that it where it ....


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