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80-96-list Digest Thu, 23 Nov 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 244

In This Issue:
Re: Spindle design inconsistency?
Alignment question
Re: Alignment question
aluminum welding
Information on?
Re: aluminum welding
Re: Spindle design inconsistency?

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From: Brazzadog aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:58:41 EST
Subject: Re: Spindle design inconsistency?

Maybe there's more of need for  8 lugs on the rear axle (where most of the
load is) and they did the same on the front so one spare would work for all.

Ben Williams
'71 Wagoneer
'78 F-250 4x4
'88 Bronco

> From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
>  Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:52:48 -0700
>
>  Ok, I got the spindle off last night, but after thinking about it, its
>  design seems rather inconsistent -- there are only 5 studs holding the
>  spindle to the steering knuckle, yet there are 8 beefy lug bolts holding
the
>  wheel to the hub.
>
>  This doesn't seem to make sense from a strength standpoint.  Why have lugs
>  that are twice the strength of the bolts holding on the spindle?  It's not
>  like the lugs aren't sprung weight and the spindle bolts are, nor is it
>  purely a matter of engine power, as I don't think the engine in my F-250 is
>  more powerful than that in the F-150's with 5 lug nuts.
>
>  Any thoughts?

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From: "John F Brock" <brocker ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Alignment question
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:21:48 -0500

I have a '95 with about 60K miles. Went to a Firestone dealer for a wheel
alignment. Was told they could only successfuly set toe in per factory spec.
Caster and camber are close, but they ran out of adjustment. Want to replace
a bushing as a result. I made sure they used th espec for a Lightning. Also
told me I need new ball joints on the left side...not an emergency, but
noticable wear. Estimate was just over $300 for the bushing and two ball
joints. Didn't do it. Want a second opinion.

Anyone know anything about a bushing that would affect alignment?
IS it normal to put ball joints on at 60K mi? I don't think so.

John


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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:45:30 EST
Subject: Re: Alignment question


In a message dated 11/23/2000 9:27:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
brocker ix.netcom.com writes:


>

Yes, On the spindle, below the spring perch, there is what is called a
Concentric Bushing. Ford put a nonadjustable bushing in there from the
factory. But with wear, there needs to be an adjustable in there for an
adjustment to be had. They sell those bushings in .5 degree increments. The
one you probably need is the 1.5 degree. A 2 degree will be too big. I will
send you a diagram of where it is, so you will know.


Better to be a racer for a moment, than a spectator for a lifetime
Later,
Wayne Foy
94 Flareside SC
NLOC #484
2000 #4 Top Truck
1999 #2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/index.html
ICQ#58060858



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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:57:52 -0800
From: scott <scott ford-trucks.com>
Subject: aluminum welding

Has anyone tried "welding"aluminum with a propane torch and aluminum
rods?
I have seen a few guys selling kits with different rods,instructions
etc.at swap meets and I even saw a infomecial for a kit.
It appears to be more like soldering,brazing or sweating than true
welding.
but it seemed to be a stromg bond.

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From: "The Casey's" <freebird2 home.com>
Subject: Information on?
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 20:14:40 -0600


Anyone have any information on a air compressor by the name of Charger Air Pro 5hp 20 gallon made by Devibiss Air Power Company. Just recieved this one in a trade it's in great condition looking for a manual so I can keep it that way Thanks for the help.


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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 22:35:14 -0500
From: Martin Horne <flatspin optonline.net>
Subject: Re: aluminum welding

Yeah, I tried them a few years ago and have a bunch of rods in the back of
a closet for emergencies. The people demonstrating are pretty good - It
isn't as easy as they make it look but with practice it works reasonably well.

The alloy melts at a fairly low temp first go around, but once it cools it
seems to take a lot more heat to melt it again. I have sucessfully "added
metal" to objects that broke and then machined the new material back down,
but bear in mind there are limitations. The end result is only as good as
the original metal, so white metal castings don't work well. Best results
are obtained from working on machined aluminum components.

In all, it is certainly  a lot easier than learning to tig weld, and much
less expensive to try. But for white metal, good old JB Weld is my preference.



At 12:57 PM 11/23/00 -0800, you wrote:
> Has anyone tried "welding"aluminum with a propane torch and aluminum
>rods?
> I have seen a few guys selling kits with different rods,instructions
>etc.at swap meets and I even saw a infomecial for a kit.
> It appears to be more like soldering,brazing or sweating than true
>welding.
>but it seemed to be a stromg bond.
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Martin Horne
'86 Bronco
Long Island, NY

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From: "Radoje Spasojevic" <rspasoje mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Spindle design inconsistency?
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:39:54 -0800

It isn't the bolts that are holding the truck up.  There is a flange on the
back of the spindle that fits into the opening on the knuckle, the bolts are
pretty much there just to keep the spindle on the knuckle.

Radoje Spasojevic
"Nerves of Steel, Brains of Chipmunk"
'90XLT-351W-AOD-BW1356-Dana44-Ford8.8(Lockright)-3.55
'83Custom-300-Clark4spd-NP208-Dana44-Ford8.8"-3.08
'76F-250 Crew Cab-390FE-NP435-NP205-Dana 60-Dana 60-4.10
'87Eddie Bauer-No engine-No tranny-No t-case-No axles-No front clip
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.2bigbroncos.org
--Rubicon tested--
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-----Original Message-----
From: Atkinson, Chip <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com' <80-96-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 7:59 AM
Subject: [80-96-list] Spindle design inconsistency?


>Ok, I got the spindle off last night, but after thinking about it, its
>design seems rather inconsistent -- there are only 5 studs holding the
>spindle to the steering knuckle, yet there are 8 beefy lug bolts holding
the
>wheel to the hub.
>
>This doesn't seem to make sense from a strength standpoint.  Why have lugs
>that are twice the strength of the bolts holding on the spindle?  It's not
>like the lugs aren't sprung weight and the spindle bolts are, nor is it
>purely a matter of engine power, as I don't think the engine in my F-250 is
>more powerful than that in the F-150's with 5 lug nuts.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Chip
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