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80-96-list Digest Tue, 07 Nov 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 237

In This Issue:
ADMIN: Please visit the FTE home page
Re: ADMIN: Please visit the FTE home page
Re: ADMIN: Please visit the FTE home page
Re: Wheel bearing question(s)
newbie greetings / first question
condenser?  nope not here
Re: condenser?  nope not here
Re: condenser?  nope not here
Re: newbie greetings / first question
Re: condenser?  nope not here
Re: condenser?  nope not here

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Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 00:06:48 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Please visit the FTE home page

I won't go into details, but I'm asking all the Ford Truck
Enthusiasts list members to please visit the main page of
the site (www.ford-trucks.com) and click on the "Scooter"
link above the opening paragraph.  Trust me, this one
deserves your attention and a couple of minutes of your time
to view.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 21:16:51 -0800
From: Bob Kennedy <bobkennedy uswest.net>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Please visit the FTE home page

A fine tribute. And a prayer for his family.


Ken Payne wrote:

> I won't go into details, but I'm asking all the Ford Truck
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> the site (www.ford-trucks.com) and click on the "Scooter"
> link above the opening paragraph.  Trust me, this one
> deserves your attention and a couple of minutes of your time
> to view.
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> Ken Payne
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From: Craig.Wallace emotors.com
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Please visit the FTE home page
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 06:51:26 -0600

A very unfortunate thing to happen.  May God be with his family and, of
course, Darrell at this time.  I'm sure Scooter would have been happy to see
the reaction on my face alone!


Craig Wallace
'94 F150 300 I-6
Brighton, Il


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From: "Dave Resch" <Dave.Resch sybase.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:20:40 -0700
Subject: Re: Wheel bearing question(s)

>From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
>
>There are two procedures.  The D50 procedure
>didn't work for me and the D44 procedure did.  This
>despite having a 50 axle.  The D50 procedure used
>huge amounts of torque and a back off of 130-150
>degrees, which resulted in a fair amount of play.  I
>suspect that the D50 that they are referring to had
>much finer threads on the axle than does mine.

Yo Chip:

Here's the D50 procedure direct from the Ford's mouth (actually, from "1980
Truck Service Highlights" #0320-212):

Install the inner wheel bearing adjusting nut and torque to 50 ft-lbs. to seat
the bearings.  Back off the adjusting nut and retighten to 30-40 ft-lbs. while
rotating the hub.  Back off the adjusting nut 135-150 degrees (approximately 3/8
turn).  Assemble lock tab and outer lock nut.  Torque outer lock nut to 65
ft-lbs.  Bend one ear of lockwasher over the inner nut and another ear of the
lockwasher over the outer nut.  Final bearing end play should be 0.001" to
0.010".

Based on their final end play numbers, I'm thinking the end play should be
barely detectable when you shake the hub by hand w/ all the nuts torqued down.

I'm thinking you should start w/ this procedure, and if the end play seems
excessive or the hub seems too tight when you rotate it by hand, try adjusting
the second back-off amount using the factory torque specs.  Since we suspect
your axle is not original on the truck, it might be hard to track down what year
it was made, etc.  It could be a later axle design that requires a different
procedure.

Dave R (M-block devotee)



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Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 14:11:47 -0600
From: "Justin Schick" <jschick aafp.org>
Subject: newbie greetings / first question

Hello all! I'm the pround new owner of an 85 F-150 4X4, 300 I6, 4 spd manual w/ granny low, etc. etc. The only other truck I've ever owned was a 77 F-100 (but I like this one MUCH better!). Currently in my stable is the truck, a 66 Mustang (drag toy project car), and a 92 SHO (my previous daily driver, now destined for the future Mrs.). I'm 24 years old and live in Blue Springs MO, an eastern suburb of KC. I do as much work on my vehicles as I can (basically everything unless it requires a machine shop). Ok, enough biography and onto the root of this e-mail...

The truck makes good power, and overall runs great. The problem I'm experiencing has to do with the idle. The timing checked out ok, so I'm thinking the problem lies with a vacuum leak or in the 1bbl carb somewhere. As soon as the truck gets warm (maybe right when the thermostat opens up), it idles fast. I don't have a tach but would guess around 1500 RPM. The idle screws (base and fast idle) are backed all the way off. I monkeyed with the mixture screw (and actually set it better than it was) but it was no help for the problem. All the vacuum lines and plugs on unused ports appear to be in place and in good condition. But, I can pull any line off of the carb and it won't affect the idle at all. I also feel no vacuum when I put my finger over the port I pull the line from.

My best guess currently is a leak at the EGR valve. The previous owner (who I would rate at about 85% knowledgeable and truthful) said he'd messed with other stuff but hadn't touched it. What do you all think? Anyway, I'll cut this long winded intro short and continue surfing the archives and whatnot. TIA for any and all replies, and I look forward to being a part of this list. And will try to post more replies than questions! =)


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From: kb9odg.mark juno.com
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:30:57 -0600
Subject: condenser?  nope not here

Ok, where does one have to go to get a simple condenser?  Nada Zone (no
big surprise here) said, or rather there computers said, that no coil was
necessary.  Napa, couldn't find one either.  Wht vehicle you ask?  1979
Lincoln Continental with a 400.  Ok, but get this, it's got the same plug
on the end of the wire, as my '88 Crown Vic does.  So I had them look up
a condenser for an '88 Crown Vic with a 5.0L.  And no one can find
anything.  Nothing!!  Nada's computer's said it wasn't necessary again.
That's the biggest bunch of BULL that I've ever heard!  So, does anyone
have a suggestion as to where I might find such an animal?  We even had
the Napa guy looking up one for a mustang, and nothing there either.  I
thought condensers were something that you just replaced every time you
did a coil or points?  Anyway, sorry to vent, but it helped.

- Mark Reimers KB9ODG
'66 Bronco 5.0L and AOD, 3.5" susp. lift, 3" body lift, 35" tires ...
'87 F-150 XLT 4x2 300 I-6, 4-speed, straight pipe ...
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Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:55:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Derek Whiteside <derekw rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: condenser?  nope not here

hmmm. Maybe ask for a set of points; on a lot of points that i've
bought, the condenser was included. You might have to pay a couple
extra bucks, but hey...

cheers,

Derek Whiteside
--- kb9odg.mark juno.com wrote:
> Ok, where does one have to go to get a simple condenser?  Nada Zone
> (no
> big surprise here) said, or rather there computers said, that no coil
> was
> necessary.  Napa, couldn't find one either.  Wht vehicle you ask?
> 1979
> Lincoln Continental with a 400.  Ok, but get this, it's got the same
> plug
> on the end of the wire, as my '88 Crown Vic does.  So I had them look
> up
> a condenser for an '88 Crown Vic with a 5.0L.  And no one can find
> anything.  Nothing!!  Nada's computer's said it wasn't necessary
> again.
> That's the biggest bunch of BULL that I've ever heard!  So, does
> anyone
> have a suggestion as to where I might find such an animal?  We even
> had
> the Napa guy looking up one for a mustang, and nothing there either.
> I
> thought condensers were something that you just replaced every time
> you
> did a coil or points?  Anyway, sorry to vent, but it helped.
>
> - Mark Reimers KB9ODG
> '66 Bronco 5.0L and AOD, 3.5" susp. lift, 3" body lift, 35" tires ...
> '87 F-150 XLT 4x2 300 I-6, 4-speed, straight pipe ...
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From: "Travis Moore" <webdoc arkansas.net>
Subject: Re: condenser?  nope not here
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:19:55 -0600

Mark,

Where does this condenser go?  If it's the one that plugs in by the coil, it
is only for radio interference.  You can get one of those from your
"friendly" ford dealer.



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From: Spruce1495 aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:08:03 EST
Subject: Re: newbie greetings / first question

Check the base to body screws. I had one a few years back and the screws were
loose and caused some strange conditions.

Bill in KY

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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:13:27 EST
Subject: Re: condenser?  nope not here


Mark,
Are you sure that its not a Noise Suppressor? Those look like condensers, and
are close to the coil. I tried to look a condenser up for my truck. They of
course told me I didn't have one. I went out, pulled it out and took it in
the store. He then showed me that the Noise Suppressor listing matched what I
had in my hand.


Later,
Wayne Foy


NLOC #484
94 Flareside SC
2000 #4 Top Truck
1999 #2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA
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ICQ#58060858



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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: condenser?  nope not here
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 08:34:23 -0800

If ya have a 79 400 their are no points or condensor  hiding in their.  They
used electronic ignition.

Josh

-----Original Message-----
From: kb9odg.mark juno.com [mailto:kb9odg.mark juno.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 3:31 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] condenser? nope not here


Ok, where does one have to go to get a simple condenser?  Nada Zone (no
big surprise here) said, or rather there computers said, that no coil was
necessary.  Napa, couldn't find one either.  Wht vehicle you ask?  1979
Lincoln Continental with a 400.  Ok, but get this, it's got the same plug
on the end of the wire, as my '88 Crown Vic does.  So I had them look up
a condenser for an '88 Crown Vic with a 5.0L.  And no one can find
anything.  Nothing!!  Nada's computer's said it wasn't necessary again.
That's the biggest bunch of BULL that I've ever heard!  So, does anyone
have a suggestion as to where I might find such an animal?  We even had
the Napa guy looking up one for a mustang, and nothing there either.  I
thought condensers were something that you just replaced every time you
did a coil or points?  Anyway, sorry to vent, but it helped.

- Mark Reimers KB9ODG
'66 Bronco 5.0L and AOD, 3.5" susp. lift, 3" body lift, 35" tires ...
'87 F-150 XLT 4x2 300 I-6, 4-speed, straight pipe ...
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