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80-96-list Digest Fri, 03 Nov 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 233

In This Issue:
Re: tire size
Re: Snow & 4x4's
Re: tire size
Re: tire size
body lift
Re: Snow & 4x4's
Steering Linkage U-joints

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From: "Kyle .." <kgoley hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: tire size
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 15:16:35 CST


I have 33x12.50x15 General Grabber MT's on my '88 F-150 4X4 with stock rims.
They fit fine, and they're a pretty aggressive mud tire.

Kyle



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From: BRIGANDBAR aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:55:09 EST
Subject: Re: Snow & 4x4's

Just to make a simple point, particularly in light of "Big Red's postings on
his Mustang and his 4x, in the states that we ranch/farm (KY & TX) , which
are not known for extreme snow conditions, the State Police/Highway Patrols
use Mustangs as traffic control pursuit vehicles, these cars are parked in
inclement weather, i.e., snow, ice and extreme rain.  Why, you may ask?
Because of their propensity to lose traction (and control) under these
conditions.  Is this true for all 2wd vehicles, absolutely not, but if you
have a vehicle with a light rear end [and an unloaded pickup truck falls into
this category as well as the Mustangs (and Camaros/Firebirds) and RWD you
will have traction and control problems under the severe weather conditions
noted.

Having also spend some time in KS, where ice and snow are a "regular" winter
occurrence, as well as the states mentioned, I would have to say that while
its not an absolute necessity, 4wd is a reasonable "personal" requirement for
adverse condition operations.  I personally used either my F-350 4x4 or my
Bronco when the going gets tough.  Best case, of course is a limited slip
differential on both axles, but even with open diffs. the 4x4 is a
significant advantage.  Remember, its like fording operations, you have twice
the chance when you only need one axle to have satisfactory traction for
forward progress.

One other point, when using gears and engine braking to slow down, 4wd does
have a significant advantage over 2wd.

And to restate the obvious, if you live in an area where these conditions
occur, and it is legal, studded snow tires (on all 4 wheels) or chains
properly installed as required are also highly recommended equipment.  When I
lived in KS, the studded snow tires went on Nov. 1 and came off Apr. 1,
without fail.

Steve

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From: "Terence Underwood" <terenceu1 prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: tire size
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:08:19 -0600

The largest you can go with stock rims on a 96 is 32x11.50 r15.  33's will
fit on some 80's models well, but on '92-'96 will rub fenders when twisted
up off-road.  33's will also require you to cut the plastic piece under your
front bumper where it wraps around to your fender, and possibly even a
little of the bumper itself.  If your front spring have any sag in them,
33's will not fit well at all.

32's look great on early 90's models IMO, and will only rub radius arms
slightly when wheels are turned all the way.  This can be remedied by
backing out the stop screws that limit your turning radius.

Terence Underwood
terenceu1 prodigy.net

'95 Bronco EB/351W/E4OD/BW1356/8.8 3.55 open/tow pack.
'94 Probe GT/K&N cone/Dunlop SP5000/Redline lubed

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[mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rozell
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:36 PM
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Subject: [80-96-list] tire size


I am looking into tires for my f150, and on the diferent sites it list sizes
that I am use to like
235/75 r 15, they also list sizes like 30x9.50R15L. The standard lettering I
am used to but the
30x numbers I am not. I have a 96 F150 with factory chrome rims, what is the
largest diameter and
width that I can go with??? Has anbody else on the list done this.

Paul

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From: "Terence Underwood" <terenceu1 prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: tire size
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:13:09 -0600

One thing I forgot to ask in the previous reply was whether your F150 is 4wd
or 2wd.  The numbers that I suggested only apply to 4wd.

Terence Underwood
terenceu1 prodigy.net

'95 Bronco EB/351W/E4OD/BW1356/8.8 3.55 open/tow pack.
'94 Probe GT/K&N cone/Dunlop SP5000/Redline lubed

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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:36 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] tire size


I am looking into tires for my f150, and on the diferent sites it list sizes
that I am use to like
235/75 r 15, they also list sizes like 30x9.50R15L. The standard lettering I
am used to but the
30x numbers I am not. I have a 96 F150 with factory chrome rims, what is the
largest diameter and
width that I can go with??? Has anbody else on the list done this.

Paul

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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 04:50:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Rozell <prozell yahoo.com>
Subject: body lift

A while back someone posted a web site for a tech article on how to make a lift kit(body) for a 2
wheel drive Ford. I have a friend with a machine shop who is going to make 3 inch aluminum blocks
for me for free. I am needing to know what size and length of hardware to purchase for the lift.
Any help would be highly appreciated.

Paul

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Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 06:04:11 -0700
From: Robert Humble <lenrob qmail.com>
Subject: Re: Snow & 4x4's

I think this thread started with a question about whether or not a 4wd is
really necessary in Colorado in the winter.  Consensus answer seems to be,
"depends on where in Colorado".

Many more people are late for or absent from work because their vehicle
does not start in cold weather than because they cannot get through the
snow and ice.  Folks with diesels are aware of the value of engine heaters,
but gas engine owners from the southern part of the country don't think
about them much.  So....if you have a gasoline engine in your truck, put in
some kind of engine heater if it doesn't already have one.  Be prepared to
plug it in at, say, 10 degrees and lower.  It will make life so much more
enjoyable.

'Course if you've got a heated garage you might not need a heater, but guys
like me living the hardscrabble life usually leave their vehicles
outside.  I believe manufacturers offer the heaters as original equipment
nowadays.  I had to add them years ago, though I think perhaps my early 80s
vehicles did have factory installed stuff.  If necessary, stick one in the
lower radiator hose.  Your truck will start quick, last longer, and your
comfort level early in the morning will be greatly enhanced.

No, I don't have one any more.  I live now in southern Arizona.

Robert


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From: "Terence Underwood" <terenceu1 prodigy.net>
Subject: Steering Linkage U-joints
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:47:11 -0600

Anyone had any experience in lubing the steering linkage u-joints?  I'm
speaking of the ones visible just under the dash after the steering column,
not the steering knuckles.  If so, please give me some insight as to how
this is done.

I've got a little 'popping' feel in the steering when returning to center
from a left-hand turn.  This could be worn tie rods, drag-link, etc., but it
feels like it's inside the steering column.
Terence Underwood
terenceu1 prodigy.net

'95 Bronco EB/351W/E4OD/BW1356/8.8 3.55 open/tow pack.
'94 Probe GT/K&N cone/Dunlop SP5000/Redline lubed



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