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80-96-list Digest Tue, 31 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 230

In This Issue:
Shock question
Re: SEMA Show / Meet the web master
Re: Motorcraft 4350 on a 351M/400
Re: Holley Carbs on Ford Trucks
4V intakes for M-blocks
High altitude
Re: High altitude
Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors
Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors
My Granny Tranny?
Re: My Granny Tranny?

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From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
Subject: Shock question
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:14:24 -0700

Greetings,

Is everyone working on their shocks this month? :-)

I was putting some new shocks on my 1980 F-250 yesterday and noticed that
the bracket that holds the bottom part of the shock and which is attached to
the spring/axle assembly seems to be at an odd angle.  When I tightened
everything up, the shaft that the shock mounts to was pointing down a bit.
In fact, it was pointing down to the extent that the rubber bushing in the
shock was nearly at its limit of flex.  This is with the weight _on_ the
axles.  This seems odd to me, but it doesn't look obviously bent.  The other
side looks pretty much the same to me too.

I'd have expected it to be such that there is little twisting when the
wheels are in a "neutral" position.  Can someone tell me what their truck is
like?  The F-250 in the parking lot here at work is gone right now, so I
can't peek at someone else's truck right now.

Thanks in advance,
Chip

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From: Fred Moreno <fmoreno dualcurve.com>
Subject: Re: SEMA Show / Meet the web master
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:35:45 -0700

The ADMIN wrote:

Ford Truck Enthusiasts will be at the upcoming SEMA show
in Las Vegas, Nevada. We will be there from Wednesday,
November 1 to Saturday, November 4. If you plan to attend
the SEMA show (its for automotive aftermarket professionals),
let me know so we can meet during the week.

Phred has one small request for the Admin:

Go bug my co-workers who got to attend the SEMA show, Russell, Mike, and
Ed, they will be the loud ones manning the MSD booth. Us real working folks
have to stay behind, gotta make the donuts.
Tell them YOU want a T-shirt and I will cover it. How about a hat? That's
the least I could do for what you have done for all of us. I can't meet you
this time but maybe they'll have a camera around. Have fun.

Wish I was in Vegas,

Phred

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From: Brazzadog aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:59:42 EST
Subject: Re: Motorcraft 4350 on a 351M/400

> From: "Serian" <serian mailandnews.com>
>  Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:40:52 -0500
>
>  First, the Ford content:
>  Does anyone make an aftermarket 4V intake for the 351M/400 ?

I think last time I checked, Edelbrock made one.

>  Does a 4V make much of a difference over a 2V in a 351M ?

A 4v should have the same potential on a 351M as it would on any other v-8.

>  I am considering the idea of putting a 4 barrel intake and Motorcraft
>  4350 4V carburetor on the 351M in my '79 Bronco, but with the low
>  geared axle ratios, I wonder if it would really do anything for it except
>  make it more fuel-thirsty.  This 351M has quite a lot of power, and is
>  bolted to a Warner T-18 4-spd and NP205 T-case.  Maybe I should
>  save that 4V carb for a bigger powerhouse ....

Any 4v will make the engine more thirsty unless you stay out of the
secondaries.  That can be a tall order.  If mileage is important you probably
should stick with the 2v.  A well tuned Motorcraft 2150 will get very
resepctable performance out of an engine.  If you want mileage and power the
Motorcraft 4350 is the ideal candidate with it's tiny primaries and
relatively huge secondaries.  But...

The 4350 is a very odd-ball carb.  It was mostly used on Ford 460 and AMC
360/401.  In both cases it was used with a unique manifold with throttle
ports designed to match the carb.  This is a weird spreadbore carb with a
squarebore bolt pattern.   I'm currently beating my head against the wall
with one on my Wagoneer.  I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but I have one
last idea I want to try.  That I know of, there is no commercial adapter that
will allow you to use the 4350 on a squarebore intake.  Trans Dapt has part
#TDP-2199 that will adapt from the 4350 specific intake to a normal
squarebore carb.  It's $50-$60 and may not work upside down since it
incorporates an EGR port.  Also, Ford no longer supports Motorcraft carbs.  I
was at the dealership a couple of weeks ago and all they could get was a
couple of jets --everything else was discontinued.

It would be easier to adapt a Quadrajet to your motor, or even easier still
to use a plain old squarebore anything.

Ben Williams
'71 Wagoneer
'78 F-250 4x4
'88 Bronco

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From: "Dave Resch" <Dave.Resch sybase.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:07:20 -0700
Subject: Re: Holley Carbs on Ford Trucks

>From: slikness mindspring.com
>
>It seems to me that some of the late '70's
>or early '80's small V-8 trucks had Holley
>carbs.  Does someone have specs or
>model numbers on these carbs?  We're
>looking for a stock Ford Holley 2 bbl. carb.

Yo Slik:

The only Holley carbs used on Ford trucks were the later model 4V carbs used on
the 460 and the 351W HO.   Although they had Motorcraft labels (and Ford part
numbers), they were OEM supplied by Holley to Ford's spec.

AFAIK, all the 2V carbs Ford used were it's own Motorcraft 2150s.

Dave R (M-block devotee)



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From: "Dave Resch" <Dave.Resch sybase.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:22:42 -0700
Subject: 4V intakes for M-blocks

>From: "Serian" <serian mailandnews.com>
>
>Does anyone make an aftermarket 4V intake
>for the 351M/400 ?

Yo Serian:

Both Edelbrock and Weiand make aluminum intake manifolds for the 351M/400 Ford
engine.  Both companies offer both EGR and non-EGR versions of their manifolds.
These manifolds allow you to use a square-bore 4V carburetor.

>Does a 4V make much of a difference over
>a 2V in a 351M?

Only if you upgrade from the OEM camshaft.  Otherwise, a well-tuned 2V carb will
do as much or more for the 351M than a 4V carb.

If you upgrade the cam, then a 4V carb and headers can make a real difference.

>I am considering the idea of putting a 4 barrel
>intake and Motorcraft 4350 4V carburetor on
>the 351M in my '79 Bronco, but with the low
>geared axle ratios, I wonder if it would really
>do anything for it except make it more fuel-thirsty.

Is the 4350 the later-model Ford/Holley unit?  If so, I'd steer clear of that
and go for an Edelbrock or Carter AFB unit.

>This 351M has quite a lot of power, and is
>bolted to a Warner T-18 4-spd and NP205
>T-case.  Maybe I should
>save that 4V carb for a bigger powerhouse ....

What's the cam in your 351M now?  What carb are you using now?

If you want a bigger powerhouse, you could convert that 351M to a 400.

Dave R (M-block devotee)



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From: "Tim Clevenger" <tclevenger hotmail.com>
Subject: High altitude
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:35:41 PST

Hi all,

Is there something I can do to make my truck run better at altitude?  I live
at about 7,000 feet altitude, and my truck spews out unburned fuel, runs
very rough in cold weather and backfires when coasting downhill.  (Boy, THAT
wakes the neighbors!)  I work at about sea level, so I can't permanently
rejet for high-altitude driving without leaning out at sea level.  I heard
that there was some kind of altitude compensator, either lever-operated or
automatic, that can be fitted to my carb.  Any ideas?


Thanks.

Tim Clevenger
'85 F-250 460 T-19
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:26:27 -0800
From: Bob Kennedy <bobkennedy uswest.net>
Subject: Re: High altitude

Some folks apply a variable adjust fuel pressure regulator that would let you
dial in the pressure needed at the altitude variations.

Bob


Tim Clevenger wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Is there something I can do to make my truck run better at altitude?  I live
> at about 7,000 feet altitude, and my truck spews out unburned fuel, runs
> very rough in cold weather and backfires when coasting downhill.  (Boy, THAT
> wakes the neighbors!)  I work at about sea level, so I can't permanently
> rejet for high-altitude driving without leaning out at sea level.  I heard
> that there was some kind of altitude compensator, either lever-operated or
> automatic, that can be fitted to my carb.  Any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim Clevenger
> '85 F-250 460 T-19
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From: Spruce1495 aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:36:36 EST
Subject: Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors

When you say "set" do you mean 8 of them complete?? Thats not a bad price for
8 of them.

Bill in KY

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From: Spruce1495 aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:44:34 EST
Subject: Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors

Luke,
       What aftermarket outfits are you referring to??  I need a complete
set.

Bill in KY

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From: "Michael Leonard" <lavidapaz hotmail.com>
Subject: My Granny Tranny?
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:44:58 PST


I wonder if I can get some advice on my transmission.  I've got a 1986 F150
EFI 5.0L 4x2.  The last time I took it on the freeway I experienced two bad
things: 1) I could only reach a maximum speed of 55 mph and 2) my
transimission doesn't respond to shifting between "drive" and "overdrive" -
it's as though I hadn't shifted at all. The truck also now has very low
overall power, even at lower speeds.  Could all this be related to a failing
transmission?  It's got 150K miles on it.  The engine is a rebuild and has
only 70K miles (mostly highway).  If it is my transmission, am I looking at
a major repair job (big $$'$) or not-so-major job (smaller $$'s)?  Any
comments or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Mike
Sacramento, CA
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From: rexbennett eibiz.net
Subject: Re: My Granny Tranny?
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:36:03 -0600

What type of transmission are we talking about here?  manual, automatic?

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Subject: [80-96-list] My Granny Tranny?



I wonder if I can get some advice on my transmission.  I've got a 1986 F150
EFI 5.0L 4x2.  The last time I took it on the freeway I experienced two bad
things: 1) I could only reach a maximum speed of 55 mph and 2) my
transimission doesn't respond to shifting between "drive" and "overdrive" -
it's as though I hadn't shifted at all. The truck also now has very low
overall power, even at lower speeds.  Could all this be related to a failing
transmission?  It's got 150K miles on it.  The engine is a rebuild and has
only 70K miles (mostly highway).  If it is my transmission, am I looking at
a major repair job (big $$'$) or not-so-major job (smaller $$'s)?  Any
comments or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Mike
Sacramento, CA
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