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80-96-list Digest Sun, 29 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 229

In This Issue:
Re: Shocks - Ranchos, Edelbrock, or what?
Holley Carbs on Ford Trucks
Re: A Question about CDRW? and a bit of Ford Content
93 5.0 fuel injectors
Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors
New Motor
Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors
ADMIN: SEMA Show / Meet the web master
Re: A Question about CDRW? and a bit of Ford
Re: A Question about CDRW? and a bit of Ford Content
Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors
Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors

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From: "Terence Underwood" <terenceu1 prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Shocks - Ranchos, Edelbrock, or what?
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:08:46 -0600


>2 front shocks 2 back shocks. If the RS 5000s
>are purchased for the correct
>lift, (none in his case) they should function
>the same as a set for the 4" lift.
>Wouldn't you think?


Well, yes, I suppose, unless your springs are of a different rate than the
stock ones.  When Rancho designs the shock, it can really only take into
consideration exact specs on the stock vehicle, not a lifted one.  Lifts are
widely varied as far as spring rate, so Rancho can only consider what length
and valving to design into the shock for a lift.  A lift with a lower lbs/in
spring rate will still ride much softer than one with a higher spring rate
using the exact same shock.

However, if your 4" lift springs have the same rate as the stock springs,
then they can be directly compared.  That is, if Rancho puts the same
valving in their stock replacement shocks as they do in their longer shocks.

Terence Underwood
terenceu1 prodigy.net

'95 Bronco EB/351W/E4OD/BW1356/8.8 3.55 open/tow pack.
'94 Probe GT/K&N cone/Dunlop SP5000/Redline lubed

-----Original Message-----
From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 5:30 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Shocks - Ranchos, Edelbrock, or what?


2 front shocks 2 back shocks. If the RS 5000s are purchased for the correct
lift, (none in his case) they should function the same as a set for the 4"
lift.
Wouldn't you think?


Bob


Terence Underwood wrote:

> They are very sturdy shocks, I agree.  But the originator of this thread
was
> looking for a smooth-riding shock for a stock vehicle, and IMHO the 5000's
> won't fit the bill.  Your longer travel may make the ride much smoother
than
> the limited travel of the stock setup.  You didn't state, do you have the
> quad front setup?  5000's work great with the 2-shock setup.
>
> Terence Underwood
> terenceu1 prodigy.net
>
> '95 Bronco EB/351W/E4OD/BW1356/8.8 3.55 open/tow pack.
> '94 Probe GT/K&N cone/Dunlop SP5000/Redline lubed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 11:57 AM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Shocks - Ranchos, Edelbrock, or what?
>
> Well, I need to toss my .02 in here. The missus has a '92 Bronco, 4" lift,
> 2"
> body lift. 35" BFG MTs. With a Trailmaster steering stabilizer on it, this
> thing
> rides down the road as smooth as a Caddy. The passenger side shock as been
> destroyed, (if you've seen her in the mud, you'd understand) and I'm going
> back
> with the RS 5000's. Either that talk with RTC and get a set of Cepek's.
The
> RS
> 5000 has ridden well and had the snot beat out of it. I'll go back to them
> in a
> minute.
>
> Bob
>
> Terence Underwood wrote:
>
> > I've heard many similar complaints on the Bronco mailing list about he
> > Rancho 5000's in the quad front setup.  Every comment I've seen says
they
> > make their truck ride like a log wagon.  Many who buy the 5000's in the
> end
> > switch to 9000's.  I think the 9000's would make a great choice, I've
> never
> > once heard a bad comment about them.
> >
> > Terence Underwood
> > terenceu1 prodigy.net
> >
> > '95 Bronco EB/351W/E4OD/BW1356/8.8 3.55 open/tow pack.
> > '94 Probe GT/K&N cone/Dunlop SP5000/Redline lubed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
> > [mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Joan and Walt
> > Posluszny
> > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 1:39 AM
> > To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: [80-96-list] Shocks - Ranchos, Edelbrock, or what?
> >
> > Some pertinent experience here.
> >
> > I have an 85 F150 4x4 with a quad shock set-up. I replaced the stock
> shocks
> > with 6 Rancho 5000's.  I took them off after about 2 years.  They were
> great
> > on smooth roads and absolutely sucked on rough roads.  You needed a
kidney
> > belt.  My wife refused to ride in the truck anymore, She said it wasn't
> > comfortable anymore.  Most of the roads around us are not tabletop
smooth,
> > not even the freeways.
> >
> > I replaced the Rancho 5000's with 4 Edelbrock IAS shocks [I made sure
the
> 2
> > front ones were for a normal 2 shock front set-up and installed them in
> the
> > correct position for a 2 shock front set-up since their so expensive.]
> I've
> > had these on for a year now and dislike them just as much except they
are
> > just the opposite feeling of the Rancho 5000's.  These are way too soft
> and
> > spongy feeling.  Frankly, I'm pissed after spending so much money on
> > supposedly good shock set-ups....namely Rancho and Edelbrock.  So far,
the
> > stock shocks, or their equivalents have felt best in my humble opinion.
> >
> > Now maybe Rancho 9000's would be different with their
adjustability...but
> > I'm tired of spending good money on bad shocks.  I'll let someone else
buy
> > them and tell me how they feel.
> >
> > My 2-cents.  Walt
> > >
> > > Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 07:47:18 -0400
> > > From: Martin Horne <flatspin optonline.net>
> > > Subject: Re: Shocks
> > >
> > > WOW! That's amazing! Thanks for the warning.
> > >
> > > I think I'm going to go with the RS9000 from Rancho. I haven't seen
> anyone
> > > with a bad word to say about them yet. Just one more question, though.
> > > Should I replace the Quad front setup with Quad Rancho's? Or will two
do
> > > the job? I dont mind spending the money if it will be "money well
> spent".
> > >
> > > Thanks again to all of you.
> >
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From: slikness mindspring.com
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:33:24 -0500
Subject: Holley Carbs on Ford Trucks

It seems to me that some of the late '70's or early '80's small V-8 trucks had Holley carbs.  Does someone have specs or model numbers on these carbs?  We're looking for a stock Ford Holley 2 bbl. carb.

Thanks,

Slik


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From: "Serian" <serian mailandnews.com>
Subject: Re: A Question about CDRW? and a bit of Ford Content
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:40:52 -0500

First, the Ford content:
Does anyone make an aftermarket 4V intake for the 351M/400 ?
Does a 4V make much of a difference over a 2V in a 351M ?
I am considering the idea of putting a 4 barrel intake and Motorcraft
4350 4V carburetor on the 351M in my '79 Bronco, but with the low
geared axle ratios, I wonder if it would really do anything for it except
make it more fuel-thirsty.  This 351M has quite a lot of power, and is
bolted to a Warner T-18 4-spd and NP205 T-case.  Maybe I should
save that 4V carb for a bigger powerhouse ....

>> Does anyone have any experience, good or bad, with Parallel Port CDRW
>> drives? My machine is an early '98 AMD K-5 166 with NO usb capability. I
>> have a CD drive and Two Hard Drives, so I'm not too sure I can use an
>> internal IDE drive. I bet someone knows all about this!!!!
>
>If you have 3 IDE devices now, then you can probably support a fourth.
> This means that you have a primary and secondary IDE interface on
> your motherboard. The issue may be whether or not you have and IRQ
> left.

The IDE interfaces on the mainboard use IRQ 14 and 15, and each can
support up to 2 devices per IDE interface.  With two hard drives, and
a CD-ROM, plus an internal IDE CD/RW, that will fill all four device
capabilities of your onboard IDE.  The issue to be worried about is
the power supply rating.  Drives require a pretty good portion of
power, and in an older system, most power supplies that came in
the system are 200 or 230 watts.  If you have a lot of expansion cards
(ISA and PCI), the power requirements of your system may exceed
the rating of the power supply, and though it may not cause immediate
problems, the extra load on the power supply may cause it to fail
eventually, possibly causing damage to other components.
A parallel connect drive will alleviate this problem, as it has its own
external power supply - however, an external drive of that nature is
more susceptible to damage from being knocked off its resting place
onto the floor, et. al. and "cable yank" to its parallel connection and
external power.  There is also a greater potential of your drive being
jarred while reading/writing, which can be hazardous to the drive.
All things considered, I would go for the internal drive, and upgrade to
a 300 watt rated power supply.
For futher discussion of computer equipment, you can contact me off-list
at: serian mailandnews.com if you need further advice/help, etc.




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From: Spruce1495 aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:54:36 EST
Subject: 93 5.0 fuel injectors

Hi all. I am checking to see if anyone has replaced the fuel injectors on the
5.0 and what would be a good per unit price. I've heard some chokers.

Thanks,
Bill in KY

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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:43:52 EST
Subject: Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors

In a message dated 10/29/2000 8:55:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Spruce1495 aol.com writes:

<< Hi all. I am checking to see if anyone has replaced the fuel injectors on
the
5.0 and what would be a good per unit price. I've heard some chokers.

Thanks,
Bill in KY >>

Bill,
If you aren't going to upgrade the ECM, then stay with the FOMOCO 19lbs. You,
having a 1993 model, will have the speed density type setup, unless you have
done the Massair conversion. The speed density setup will not support a
higher LB injector without a little help from a tuning aid such as a chip or
programmable management system.


Later,
Wayne Foy

NLOC #484
94 Flareside SC
2000 #4 Top Truck
1999 #2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/index.html
ICQ#58060858

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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:50:25 EST
Subject: New Motor

Gang,
Well for those of you who didn't know, my old little 5.0 gave up the ghost
about 2 months ago. It has been a long battle with the machine shop and the
tranny shop, but my new 310 is in the truck and running quite nicely. I still
have some exhaust leaks to tighten up and a little tuning to do with my ProM
massair meter (with Optimizer) so it is a little off, but a LOT more torque
with the custom grind cam. I put about 250 miles on it tonight and will be
putting about another 300 on it tomorrow to make sure it is good and broke in
before I pull any shenanigans, and about another 1500 miles before I put the
Nitrous to it. But thanks to all who have helped me with answers to
questions, most off lists. I will be getting all the specs on the cam and
crank this week to post on my website for all those interested.
Later,
Wayne Foy

NLOC #484
94 Flareside SC
2000 #4 Top Truck
1999 #2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/index.html
ICQ#58060858

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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:52:30 EST
Subject: Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors

Bill,
DOH!!! I forgot to post that you can usually find good used injectors on
Corral.net or nmra.com. Any good classified section online for the stang guys
will ALWAYS have full sets of the 19lbs injectors listed for very cheap.
Later,
Wayne Foy

NLOC #484
94 Flareside SC
2000 #4 Top Truck
1999 #2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/flr150/index.html
ICQ#58060858

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:18:14 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: SEMA Show / Meet the web master

Ford Truck Enthusiasts will be at the upcoming SEMA show
in Las Vegas, Nevada. We will be there from Wednesday,
November 1 to Saturday, November 4. If you plan to attend
the SEMA show (its for automotive aftermarket professionals),
let me know so we can meet during the week.

In addition to the show, we'll be in Vegas all day Saturday
and would like to meet some of the users for lunch! Let me
know and we'll make plans.

I'll be giving free FTE t-shirts to any user I meet there,
while supplies last!

Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Admin


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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:02:16 -0500
From: "Theodore D. Mills" <n3kwq martnet.com>
Subject: Re: A Question about CDRW? and a bit of Ford

At 08:40 PM 10/29/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>First, the Ford content:
>Does anyone make an aftermarket 4V intake for the 351M/400 ?
>Does a 4V make much of a difference over a 2V in a 351M ?
>I am considering the idea of putting a 4 barrel intake and Motorcraft
>4350 4V carburetor on the 351M in my '79 Bronco, but with the low
>geared axle ratios, I wonder if it would really do anything for it except
>make it more fuel-thirsty.  This 351M has quite a lot of power, and is
>bolted to a Warner T-18 4-spd and NP205 T-case.  Maybe I should
>save that 4V carb for a bigger powerhouse ....
>
Edelbrock made a Performer 2 plane manifold for the 351M/400.

I used to have a 73 LTD Coupe that had a tired 400 in it.
I had a 351M built to repalce it.  Used a Performer mainfold, 650 vacuum
secondary Holley, C6 and dual exhausts with Midas turbo mufflers.

The only downside was the 2.75 rear gear.  Wouldn't even light the tires,
but how's 105 MPH 5000 rpm in SECOND gear grab ya!

I never did find out how fast it would go......

I don't know what cam was in it, the guy who built it would never tell me.
I do know it had some good top end power though.  At about 2500 rpm you
could really feel the cam come in.....

I got about the same gas mileage as my 84 Mustang GT got.
14 city/ in the mid 20's highway....



Ted

N3KWQ
Aston, Pa

84 Mustang GT (in pieces)
85 Ranger XL 2WD 2.8L
91 F-250 XLT Lariat SC 4X4x460
94 Taurus LX wagon 3.8L

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:18:21 -0700
From: Robert Hansen <rhansen uwyo.edu>
Subject: Re: A Question about CDRW? and a bit of Ford Content

Holley made a good manifold (probably still do) that works real good with a
600cfm Holley, vacuum secondary, carb off of a 302.  The jetting was close
enough it could be bolted on and fine tuned.  I had this on a 1977 400 3/4
ton 4wd.  This setup ran the 4:10 gears and 12/16.5X33 tires.  I also had
the headers that came outside the frame rails.  My son still has this truck
in Jackson, Wy and it still runs the carb and manifold.  I think I still
have the box the carb came in.  The gas mileage improved and performance
was much better.  A nice rv cam does not hurt it either.

Good luck



-----Original Message-----
From: Theodore D. Mills [SMTP:n3kwq martnet.com]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 1:02 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: A Question about CDRW? and a bit of Ford Content

<< File: ATT00001.txt; charset = us-ascii" [64.24.240.65] claimed to be
amy.n3kwq.ampr.org >>


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From: Lwskywalk aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:02:29 EST
Subject: Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors

you can get aftermarket injectors for around 215$ for all 8 unlike autozone
and all the others that sell for 60 bucks a peice

luke
94

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From: "Radoje Spasojevic" <rspasoje mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:50:29 -0800

Or you can get new FORD injectors for $245 a set through SVO.

Radoje Spasojevic
"Nerves of Steel, Brains of Chipmunk"
'90XLT-351W-AOD-BW1356-Dana44-Ford8.8(Lockright)-3.55
'83Custom-300-Clark4spd-NP208-Dana44-Ford8.8"-3.08
'76F-250 Crew Cab-390FE-NP435-NP205-Dana 60-Dana 60-4.10
'87Eddie Bauer-No engine-No tranny-No t-case-No axles-No front clip
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lwskywalk aol.com <Lwskywalk aol.com>
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com <80-96-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, October 30, 2000 2:07 PM
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: 93 5.0 fuel injectors


>you can get aftermarket injectors for around 215$ for all 8 unlike autozone
>and all the others that sell for 60 bucks a peice
> ....


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