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the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 80-96-list Digest Fri, 27 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 227 In This Issue: Re: Shocks Re: Shocks Re: Shocks Re: Shocks Re: Shocks Tie rod ends Re: Shocks Re: Shocks 4x4 conversions Re: Shocks Re: Shocks Re: Tie rod ends ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ken Schneider" <fordemail sunsetcoast.com>
Subject: Re: Shocks Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:02:17 -0400 I can testify to the Rancho RS 5000's. I have them on the front of two of my vehicals, and I like them better then the Monroe Sensatracs that I had on (one of them) before. I considered the Edlebrock shocks, but I like to see how they perform before spending the $$$. Granted, we all hear of how good they are, but how many of us have rode in an equiped vehicle? Ken On a side note, How many of you have Ford's SuperSeal? 68 F100 Ranger 2wd 360/C6/3.25NL (Rancho Front, rear due) <Summer Cruiser> 88 Crown Victoria 5.0/AOD <Sunday Car> 89 G*C T15 Jimmy 4x4 4.3/700R4/3.42NL (Rancho Front, Monroe Sensatrac rear) <Winter Beater> >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 21:58:35 -0400 >From: Dale Grein <fordman dgtdesign.com>
>Subject: Re: Shocks > >I have some Rancho RS 5000 shocks and they are smoother on-road and >way better off-road than what was on it. (midas on front, motomaster >on back) But, if you want even smoother on-road shocks, the Rancho >RS 9000 are clicker adjustable from hard to softer. Of course if >anyone else has a better suggestion, I'm glad to here it. ------------------------------ From: "Mark Corboy" <mcorboy mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Shocks Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:32:53 -0500 I have the Rancho 9000s on a 1997 1ton F350 diesel 4WD. These replaced Rancho 5000 that broke at the stud on shock mount. The 5000's were a great compromise for control and comfort (non adjustable). The failure was not a result of a defect, just too severe of use on my part. The 9000's are set on 6 up front and 4 in the rear if the truck is empty and used on the road. Off road the front gets set turned all the way up and the rear stays the same if empty. I also have the 9000's on a F350 crew cab 2WD diesel that's is obviously a road machine (no mud). The front are set on 4 the rear's on 3. Hope this is enough info. -----Original Message----- From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Martin Horne
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:33 AM To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Shocks At 09:58 PM 10/26/00 -0400, you wrote: >I have some Rancho RS 5000 shocks and they are smoother on-road and >way better off-road than what was on it. (midas on front, motomaster >on back) But, if you want even smoother on-road shocks, the Rancho >RS 9000 are clicker adjustable from hard to softer. Of course if >anyone else has a better suggestion, I'm glad to here it. > Thanks Dale, The RS9000 is a tempting idea. Kind of expensive so, with all due respect, does any one else have any input (good or bad) on these? Thanks again. Martin Horne '86 Bronco Long Island, NY ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: Shocks Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:15:55 -0700 I'd like to know how you got the 9000's set on six being that they only have 5 settings... Josh -----Original Message----- From: Mark Corboy [mailto:mcorboy mindspring.com]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 7:33 AM To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Shocks I have the Rancho 9000s on a 1997 1ton F350 diesel 4WD. These replaced Rancho 5000 that broke at the stud on shock mount. The 5000's were a great compromise for control and comfort (non adjustable). The failure was not a result of a defect, just too severe of use on my part. The 9000's are set on 6 up front and 4 in the rear if the truck is empty and used on the road. Off road the front gets set turned all the way up and the rear stays the same if empty. I also have the 9000's on a F350 crew cab 2WD diesel that's is obviously a road machine (no mud). The front are set on 4 the rear's on 3. Hope this is enough info. -----Original Message----- From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Martin Horne
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:33 AM To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Shocks At 09:58 PM 10/26/00 -0400, you wrote: >I have some Rancho RS 5000 shocks and they are smoother on-road and >way better off-road than what was on it. (midas on front, motomaster >on back) But, if you want even smoother on-road shocks, the Rancho >RS 9000 are clicker adjustable from hard to softer. Of course if >anyone else has a better suggestion, I'm glad to here it. > Thanks Dale, The RS9000 is a tempting idea. Kind of expensive so, with all due respect, does any one else have any input (good or bad) on these? Thanks again. Martin Horne '86 Bronco Long Island, NY ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "Mark Corboy" <mcorboy mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Shocks Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:27:53 -0500 Dooo. You are correct. Homer says. I am suitably humbled. Thanks for the correction. PS: don't use needle nose vise grips to adjust. ---Original Message----- From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Nichols, Josh
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 10:16 AM To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Shocks I'd like to know how you got the 9000's set on six being that they only have 5 settings... Josh -----Original Message----- From: Mark Corboy [mailto:mcorboy mindspring.com]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 7:33 AM To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Shocks I have the Rancho 9000s on a 1997 1ton F350 diesel 4WD. These replaced Rancho 5000 that broke at the stud on shock mount. The 5000's were a great compromise for control and comfort (non adjustable). The failure was not a result of a defect, just too severe of use on my part. The 9000's are set on 6 up front and 4 in the rear if the truck is empty and used on the road. Off road the front gets set turned all the way up and the rear stays the same if empty. I also have the 9000's on a F350 crew cab 2WD diesel that's is obviously a road machine (no mud). The front are set on 4 the rear's on 3. Hope this is enough info. -----Original Message----- From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Martin Horne
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:33 AM To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Shocks At 09:58 PM 10/26/00 -0400, you wrote: >I have some Rancho RS 5000 shocks and they are smoother on-road and >way better off-road than what was on it. (midas on front, motomaster >on back) But, if you want even smoother on-road shocks, the Rancho >RS 9000 are clicker adjustable from hard to softer. Of course if >anyone else has a better suggestion, I'm glad to here it. > Thanks Dale, The RS9000 is a tempting idea. Kind of expensive so, with all due respect, does any one else have any input (good or bad) on these? Thanks again. Martin Horne '86 Bronco Long Island, NY ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:58:58 -0700 From: Marv & Marge <ae722 lafn.org>
Subject: Re: Shocks Martin Horne > The RS9000 is a tempting idea. Kind of expensive so, with all due respect, > does any one else have any input (good or bad) on these? 9000's are very good shocks. The remote kit is not a real necessity, though handy for adjusting on the fly. The lines to it can be somewhat troublesome until you get all the leaks found. The 5000's are about the same as the 9000's 3-4 setting. Depends on what you're going to do with the truck, i.e. all street, some offroad, a LOT of offroad, etc. Adjustables are great if you are varying the type of driving. Even then, you don't NEED the remote kit. -M- Marv Miller mailto:ae722 lafn.org
"Striving to be the person that my dog thinks I am". ------------------------------ From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
Subject: Tie rod ends Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:47:38 -0600 Greetings, Are the joints that connect the steering arm to the drag link and the drag link to the tie rod replaceable, or does one have to just get a whole new drag link and tie rod at that point? Thanks, Chip ------------------------------ From: Fred Moreno <fmoreno dualcurve.com>
Subject: Re: Shocks Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:08:23 -0600 Hey All, On the subject of shocks, I luv my Bilstein shocks. They are expensive but I feel worth every penny and I would buy them again. They are good'n tight so if you want the kaddy feeling steer away from these. I do appreciate how these shocks keep the tires down on the ground. Went out a couple of week-ends ago up a long steep slope made of loose rocks and the truck never once slipped or jumped sideways, just stayed right on track like it was a level runway. 4-Low is so much fun. Forgot the digital camera, sorry. Phred 1995 F-150 4X4, propane or gasoline fed 302, 5 speed, 196K miles. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 08:44:21 +1000 From: les williams <lesw cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: Shocks As a generalization, you get what you pay for, but in the world of shocks you seem to get a lot of 'advertising hype' for the money... such is the value of this group, to cut through the 'hype'. So I guess the next best thing is, what am I using and is it working, and would I use them again ? Yes. I have Koni adjustable's on the front, set at notch 5 out of 10, all(?) Koni's imported into OZ are adjustable, although on a casual inspection it is not apparent, and Rancho rs5000 on the rear. Neither brand is 'Cheap' Bear in mind that OZ roads have a history of destroying the reputation of shock's and the vehicle's (including Ford) that have not made the necessary changes. This is not the land of 'boulevard type' suspensions. ... now if we could guarantee chassis rails that won't crack ... Les Still lost in OZ, in an F100 on LPG Martin Horne wrote: > > At 09:58 PM 10/26/00 -0400, you wrote: > >I have some Rancho RS 5000 shocks and they are smoother on-road and > >way better off-road than what was on it. (midas on front, motomaster > >on back) But, if you want even smoother on-road shocks, the Rancho > >RS 9000 are clicker adjustable from hard to softer. Of course if > >anyone else has a better suggestion, I'm glad to here it. > > > Thanks Dale, > > The RS9000 is a tempting idea. Kind of expensive so, with all due respect, > does any one else have any input (good or bad) on these? > > Thanks again. > > Martin Horne > '86 Bronco > Long Island, NY ------------------------------ From: "Joel" <treefort prodigy.net>
Subject: 4x4 conversions Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:30:14 -0500 Can a 1984 body fit onto a lates 70's frame?? I need somebody with first hand knowledge. thanks, Joel Thomas ______________________________ Joel Thomas treefort prodigy.net
1996 Dodge 3500 EC Dually,2wd, 12v CumminsTurbo,NV4500HD,Dana80, 25mpg. Diesel Technician, Little Rock, AR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 04:39:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Kudulis <jimm excite.com>
Subject: Re: Shocks I have an F250 4X4 8600 GVW. I bought a set of the Edelbrock IAS. I wish I hadn't. If you get on the truck in the dirt the rear end will start hopping right now. If you stop the truck abruptly at a stop sign, it will rebound 2-3 times, just like you had bad shocks. Little bumps in the road at slow speed shake your teeth. Nothing is worse than spending more than Ford would charge for OE and having the replacement perform worse. Edelbrock says I can return them to be tested. I bought them from Shock Warehouse, they say the satisfaction and lifetime warantee is Edelbrock's. Edelbrock says, hey you bought them from Shock Warehouse they hold the warantee. Steer Clear. Jim On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:02:17 -0400, 80-96-list ford-trucks.com wrote:
> I can testify to the Rancho RS 5000's. I have them on the front of two of > my vehicals, and I like them better then the Monroe Sensatracs that I had on > (one of them) before. I considered the Edlebrock shocks, but I like to see > how they perform before spending the $$$. Granted, we all hear of how good > they are, but how many of us have rode in an equiped vehicle? > > Ken > > On a side note, How many of you have Ford's SuperSeal? > > 68 F100 Ranger 2wd 360/C6/3.25NL (Rancho Front, rear due) <Summer Cruiser> > 88 Crown Victoria 5.0/AOD <Sunday Car> > 89 G*C T15 Jimmy 4x4 4.3/700R4/3.42NL (Rancho Front, Monroe Sensatrac rear) > <Winter Beater> > > > > >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 21:58:35 -0400 > >From: Dale Grein <fordman dgtdesign.com>
> >Subject: Re: Shocks > > > >I have some Rancho RS 5000 shocks and they are smoother on-road and > >way better off-road than what was on it. (midas on front, motomaster > >on back) But, if you want even smoother on-road shocks, the Rancho > >RS 9000 are clicker adjustable from hard to softer. Of course if > >anyone else has a better suggestion, I'm glad to here it. > > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 07:47:18 -0400 From: Martin Horne <flatspin optonline.net>
Subject: Re: Shocks WOW! That's amazing! Thanks for the warning. I think I'm going to go with the RS9000 from Rancho. I haven't seen anyone with a bad word to say about them yet. Just one more question, though. Should I replace the Quad front setup with Quad Rancho's? Or will two do the job? I dont mind spending the money if it will be "money well spent". Thanks again to all of you. At 04:39 AM 10/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >I have an F250 4X4 8600 GVW. >I bought a set of the Edelbrock IAS. I wish I hadn't. Martin Horne '86 Bronco Long Island, NY ------------------------------ From: "big red" <big_red_59 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tie rod ends Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 03:45:10 GMT You will need to by the whole end part. I just went through mine and got the moog tie rod ends for about $30 each. Good price or not I don't know, but it was a necessity for me. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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