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80-96-list Digest Wed, 11 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 216

In This Issue:
Thermostat location on 6.9
Re: Propane Power.
ADMIN: Tech Article added to web site
report and steering question
Re: report and steering question
Re: report and steering question
Re: report and steering question
Re: report and steering question

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From: "Mike Miller" <mikemilr blackfoot.net>
Subject: Thermostat location on 6.9
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:25:14 -0600

I seem unable to spot the thermostat on my 6.9 - I'm sure it must be in
plain sight. Can anyone steer me in the right direction?


thanks,
mike miller
85 F250 SC 4x4 Banks turbo


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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:49:54 -0500
From: Buck Shoff <hawk sktc.net>
Subject: Re: Propane Power.

Shhhh.  If Kansas hears about that, we will be buying a $60 sticker and
paying road taxes.  Buck

Larry Schmiedekamp wrote:
>
> Hey Buck
>
> When I was running propane a few years ago, in texas you could buy a
> sticker for about 60.00 which paid the taxes for a year. It might be higher
> or lower depending on the mileage you put on in one year.
>
> Larry

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:47:18 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Tech Article added to web site

Tech Article Added to the web site:

- Installing a Mid-60's Mustang Tank In A 1953 F-100
 By John Niolon

Its a very good article with photos.  John did a great
job.  Check it out:

<a href="http://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/index.html>www.ford-trucks.com/articles/index.html</a>

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
Subject: report and steering question
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:30:26 -0600

Greetings,

Yesterday I got bitten by the bug.  For my birthday yesterday I decided to
try some off-road trails in the "new" truck.  I figured I could try some
milder trails since it seemed to be in good enough repair to get through
that at least.  I went on the switzerland trail, a little out of town
(Boulder, CO).  It was given the green circle difficulty rating so it seemed
ok.  The trail is an old railroad grade with the tracks removed.  It's
pretty narrow in some places and has some huge potholes, but nothing too
bad.  A little down the road there was a turn out and a road up a really
steep (to me anyway) hill.  Oh boy, this was what I was looking for -- a
chance to use 4 low.  Up we went, grinding our way slowly along.  I was
really impressed by how well the truck did.  No spinning or anything at all,
just "smooth" seady power to the wheels.  This is particularly amazing
considering that the tires have about 1/8" of tread left on them.
We went on along the trail a bit more and came to a fork in the road.  At
this point we stopped to look at which way would be the best to go.  When we
stopped, the engine died like it would if the idle was turned down too low,
which I don't think it was.  I figured this was a good time to turn back
before we spent the night there.  The trip back down the trail was more or
less uneventful, and we made it to the main road and started heading back
home.  The dimmer switch on the headlights died in the hi-beam position on
the way, making me popular with the oncoming traffic.

To summarize, the trip was exciting and new.  I got to try out the 4 wheel
drive for real for the first time, and nothing too serious broke except....

I'm now having a little trouble with the steering.  It seems that the wheel
doesn't center by itself and has lost its free-turning nature.  When I turn
the wheel and let go, it goes in that direction and doesn't straighten out.
I looked under the hood and truck and didn't see anything obviously broken
or bent.  Anyone have a suggestion as to what the problem could be or where
to look?

Thanks in advance,
Chip

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From: MRStace84 aol.com
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:46:54 EDT
Subject: Re: report and steering question

In a message dated 10/12/00 11:31:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
CAtkinson Circadence.com writes:

<< I'm now having a little trouble with the steering.  It seems that the wheel
doesn't center by itself and has lost its free-turning nature.  When I turn
the wheel and let go, it goes in that direction and doesn't straighten out.
I looked under the hood and truck and didn't see anything obviously broken
or bent.  Anyone have a suggestion as to what the problem could be or where
to look? >>


After months of trying to diagnose a steering problem on my 84, I found it
the be a bad universal joint in the front axle, out next to the wheel.  The
truck felt like it was running in a rut most of the time, then jump out when
I turned the wheel.  I also had a lot of play in my steering, so I replaced
the steering box with one I got at a local boneyard.. The old truck steers
like a new one now.  Don't know if this will help you or not.  You also might
want to check your aligment, ball joints, and tie rod ends.

Good Luck!
Stacy Fisher
84 F150 4x4
98 Ranger XLT 4x4

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From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
Subject: Re: report and steering question
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:06:08 -0600

Thanks for the help.  I'll start looking at those aspects of the front end.
Funny how the truck is -- I'm never out of things to do and the
prioritization is taking care of itself. :-)

All of the things you suggest got a bit of exercize yesterday, so it's good
to hear about where to check.
Thanks again,
chip

-----Original Message-----
From: MRStace84 aol.com [mailto:MRStace84 aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 9:47 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: report and steering question


In a message dated 10/12/00 11:31:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
CAtkinson Circadence.com writes:

<< I'm now having a little trouble with the steering.  It seems that the
wheel
doesn't center by itself and has lost its free-turning nature.  When I turn
the wheel and let go, it goes in that direction and doesn't straighten out.
I looked under the hood and truck and didn't see anything obviously broken
or bent.  Anyone have a suggestion as to what the problem could be or where
to look? >>


After months of trying to diagnose a steering problem on my 84, I found it
the be a bad universal joint in the front axle, out next to the wheel.  The
truck felt like it was running in a rut most of the time, then jump out when

I turned the wheel.  I also had a lot of play in my steering, so I replaced
the steering box with one I got at a local boneyard.. The old truck steers
like a new one now.  Don't know if this will help you or not.  You also
might
want to check your aligment, ball joints, and tie rod ends.

Good Luck!
Stacy Fisher
84 F150 4x4
98 Ranger XLT 4x4
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:49:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Derek Whiteside <derekw rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: report and steering question

Chip:

My suggestion is to take the truck to a front-end/alignment shop and
get an "estimate". The symptoms you describe could just mean that you
need an alignment, but the shop will check all of your
steering/suspension parts and tell you what it would cost to fix 'em.

If there's nothing wrong (ie, it just needs an alignment), you need
them to do it anyway... if there are other problems, they'll tell you
exactly what they are, at which point you can say "thanks" and take
your truck home and start planning to fix the stuff that they outlined.


If you ask real nice, you might be able to get into the shop while
they're inspecting it and see what they're looking at, how they're
checking it out, what they're talking about, etc.

best,

Derek Whiteside
92 F150 XLT Supercab 4x2 300-6
Albany, OR
--- "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the help.  I'll start looking at those aspects of the
> front end.
> Funny how the truck is -- I'm never out of things to do and the
> prioritization is taking care of itself. :-)
>
> All of the things you suggest got a bit of exercize yesterday, so
> it's good
> to hear about where to check.
> Thanks again,
> chip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MRStace84 aol.com [mailto:MRStace84 aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 9:47 AM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: report and steering question
>
>
> In a message dated 10/12/00 11:31:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> CAtkinson Circadence.com writes:
>
> << I'm now having a little trouble with the steering.  It seems that
> the
> wheel
>  doesn't center by itself and has lost its free-turning nature.  When
> I turn
>  the wheel and let go, it goes in that direction and doesn't
> straighten out.
>  I looked under the hood and truck and didn't see anything obviously
> broken
>  or bent.  Anyone have a suggestion as to what the problem could be
> or where
>  to look? >>
>
>
> After months of trying to diagnose a steering problem on my 84, I
> found it
> the be a bad universal joint in the front axle, out next to the
> wheel.  The
> truck felt like it was running in a rut most of the time, then jump
> out when
>
> I turned the wheel.  I also had a lot of play in my steering, so I
> replaced
> the steering box with one I got at a local boneyard.. The old truck
> steers
> like a new one now.  Don't know if this will help you or not.  You
> also
> might
> want to check your aligment, ball joints, and tie rod ends.
>
> Good Luck!
> Stacy Fisher
> 84 F150 4x4
> 98 Ranger XLT 4x4
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From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
Subject: Re: report and steering question
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:15:22 -0600

That's a great idea too.  I could justify it by using the best company to do
the actual alignment.
Thanks!
Chip

-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Whiteside [mailto:derekw rocketmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 10:50 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com; CAtkinson circadence.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: report and steering question


Chip:

My suggestion is to take the truck to a front-end/alignment shop and
get an "estimate". The symptoms you describe could just mean that you
need an alignment, but the shop will check all of your
steering/suspension parts and tell you what it would cost to fix 'em.

If there's nothing wrong (ie, it just needs an alignment), you need
them to do it anyway... if there are other problems, they'll tell you
exactly what they are, at which point you can say "thanks" and take
your truck home and start planning to fix the stuff that they outlined.


If you ask real nice, you might be able to get into the shop while
they're inspecting it and see what they're looking at, how they're
checking it out, what they're talking about, etc.

best,

Derek Whiteside
92 F150 XLT Supercab 4x2 300-6
Albany, OR
--- "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the help.  I'll start looking at those aspects of the
> front end.
> Funny how the truck is -- I'm never out of things to do and the
> prioritization is taking care of itself. :-)
>
> All of the things you suggest got a bit of exercize yesterday, so
> it's good
> to hear about where to check.
> Thanks again,
> chip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MRStace84 aol.com [mailto:MRStace84 aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 9:47 AM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: report and steering question
>
>
> In a message dated 10/12/00 11:31:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> CAtkinson Circadence.com writes:
>
> << I'm now having a little trouble with the steering.  It seems that
> the
> wheel
>  doesn't center by itself and has lost its free-turning nature.  When
> I turn
>  the wheel and let go, it goes in that direction and doesn't
> straighten out.
>  I looked under the hood and truck and didn't see anything obviously
> broken
>  or bent.  Anyone have a suggestion as to what the problem could be
> or where
>  to look? >>
>
>
> After months of trying to diagnose a steering problem on my 84, I
> found it
> the be a bad universal joint in the front axle, out next to the
> wheel.  The
> truck felt like it was running in a rut most of the time, then jump
> out when
>
> I turned the wheel.  I also had a lot of play in my steering, so I
> replaced
> the steering box with one I got at a local boneyard.. The old truck
> steers
> like a new one now.  Don't know if this will help you or not.  You
> also
> might
> want to check your aligment, ball joints, and tie rod ends.
>
> Good Luck!
> Stacy Fisher
> 84 F150 4x4
> 98 Ranger XLT 4x4
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