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80-96-list Digest Mon, 09 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 214

In This Issue:
Re: Propane Power.
Re: f15o 4wd 300I6 1981 duel tanks
Re: vent window - heat registers/
OP sender/need pn
Subscription to forum at http://www.ford-trucks.com/cgi-b
Re: speedometer calibration
Dash Removal
Re: OP sender/need pn
More on Fuel Pump related Code
Re: Backyard Propane Fill Stations...
Re: speedometer calibration
Re: Tune-up?
Re: More on Fuel Pump related Code
Re: More on Fuel Pump related Code
Re: speedometer calibration
Re: speedometer calibration
Re: More on Fuel Pump related Code
Re: Propane Power.
Re: speedometer calibration
Re: speedometer calibration
Re: speedometer calibration
Re: More on Fuel Pump related Code
Re: speedometer calibration
Re: speedometer calibration
Re: speedometer calibration
Re: speedometer calibration
Re: speedometer calibration
Re: speedometer calibration
Re: speedometer calibration

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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:35:59 -0500
From: Buck Shoff <hawk sktc.net>
Subject: Re: Propane Power.

Hi Tim,
Yeah, it is the same thing and you can do what you are thinking.
However, you should check your local ordinances, some cities or towns
won't let you keep a bulk tank in your back yard.  Most places also want
you to pay road tax if you run your propane vehicle on the road.  Let
your conscious be your guide.   Buck Shoff

Tim Clevenger wrote:
>
> Hi Fred,
>
> Just to clarify:  is this the same propane you fill your RV cannisters with?
>   Could I get a few-hundred-gallon tank set up in my backyard, have it
> filled at a bulk rate, and use it to fuel a propane vehicle?  That would be
> a major convenience right there.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim Clevenger

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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:35:36 -0700
From: forest barker <donorbub home.com>
Subject: Re: f15o 4wd 300I6 1981 duel tanks

the fuel filter (yes fuel filter) is located under the passengers side
frame .

Mc Gregor JAMES wrote:
>
> I am slowly working through things that can go wrong at this stage of my
> vehicles life.Surprised to find that there are no fuel filters visible in
> the engine bay.
>
> Are these in the tank , how do I maintain them ?
>
> James
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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:44:49 -0700
From: forest barker <donorbub home.com>
Subject: Re: vent window - heat registers/


I have a 93 f-150 and i am in need of the passenger side vent window.
also i am in need of a parts truck. I need to find for cheap, the
ventsilation registers for my truck.  ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRITIATE IT
THANKS.

BUBBA
(THIRD GENERATION AND THIRD OWNED.)

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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:57:48 -0700
From: Steve Deis <steve avdec.com>
Subject: OP sender/need pn

Joe, I'm running a 4.9-6, but I believe your sender is on the driver's
side forward.  Sender wire should be white with a red stripe.  Depending
on model, the sender can be screwed directly into the block, or use a
hexagonal adapter that's screwed to the block.  Look for a small
can-shaped thing with a single terminal stud on the end.

hth

Steve

> From: Nite4x aol.com
> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:15:14 EDT
> Subject: Re: Oil Pressure Sender
>
> where is the sender for the gauge?  last week my gauge slowly crapped out,
> like the sender went or wire broke/bad ground.  I want to put a mechanical
> gauge on it to make sure I have sufficent pressure before I change the
> sender...I could probally get a BW part # for ya today by around 5...
>
> Joe
> 92 F150 302

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:57:35 -0400
From: Shawn Clemons <sclemons vt.edu>
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration

Did the actual tire size or gearing change? If not, you don't need to
change the speedo gear.

If you did, go to http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4lo.com They have a couple of converters that
will help you determine how much your speedometer is off.

At 10:09 PM 10/9/00 -0400, you wrote:
>hi, i blew 2 rears with 5 lug, a 8.8 and 9". so now i have in a dana 60 with
>8 lug,. how can i calibrate the speedomoter with the wheel change. 15" to
16"
>wheels?

-------------
Shawn Clemons
'90 Bronco XLT 5.0EFI M5OD 4.10LS 4" 35's
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superford.org/users/sclemons/index.html

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From: "Al Powell" <powellae home.com>
Subject: Dash Removal
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:13:56 -0700

Shawn said:

>After 88, the 'gauge' isn't really a gauge at all -- the sending unit
>closes as soon as it sees greater than 3 psi, and a resistor across the
>gauge makes sure that the needle pops up into the 'normal' range. By
>cutting out the resistor and replacing the sending unit, you can have a
>functioning gauge.

I remember reading a similar thread a few months ago.  I'd like to retrofit
my 1993 F-150 with the 351 so that the gauge would serve as more than an
on/off reading.  However, I got stumped when trying to pull the dash
unit...so I couldn't reach the resistor.  The Chilton's manual I have
doesn't say anything helpful about pulling the dash unit.  Would someone who
knows how to pull the dash in this series post a step-by-step "how-to",
please?  (Of course, my next question will be which sending unit to use...)

Thanks in advance, friends...

Al Powell
Fort Collins, CC


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From: Nite4x aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:58:12 EDT
Subject: Re: OP sender/need pn

In a message dated 10/9/00 10:53:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, steve avdec.com
writes:

<< Joe, I'm running a 4.9-6, but I believe your sender is on the driver's
side forward.  Sender wire should be white with a red stripe.  Depending
on model, the sender can be screwed directly into the block, or use a
hexagonal adapter that's screwed to the block.  Look for a small
can-shaped thing with a single terminal stud on the end.
 >>

steve-
oh ok...  I got the #'s for a 302...  I'll check for the 6 today at
work....thanks for the info...

Joe

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From: Craig.Wallace emotors.com
Subject: More on Fuel Pump related Code
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:39:42 -0500

Hey all.

I desparately need some help here.  Found out yesterday that fuel pumps for
F150 trucks are not cheap.  $250 a piece at your trusty local Ford dealer or
$126 for front and $132 for rear thru Auto Zone.  Needless to say, I will
opt for the latter and do this myself.  However, I don't just want to jump
into this without being for sure that is my problem.  I've sent out a few
e-mails in the last week or two explaining my symptoms and received a few
responses only to find out there are others with similar problems.  The
symptoms were loss of power and added fuel consumption.  Eventually, as
truck heated up, symptoms only got worse and truck seemed to shake badly
when accelerating (especially uphill.....this is where loss of power was at
it's worst).  I replaced all the obvious parts for a tune-up only to find
out nothing fixed the problem.  Then ran codes this weekend and received the
542 continuous code which stated "Fuel Pump circuit failure - PCM to GRD".
I've since found another definition that states "Fuel pump open, bad ground
or always on - - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits".  Does anybody have experience
with this?  I need to get this fixed, but am very hesitant to just fork out
$250 only to find out it's not the problem.  Are the symptoms specified
definitely related to the fuel pump?  Or is it something in-line with the
fuel pump that needs replaced?  Has anyone else received the same code and
been able to fix the problem?  I haven't driven my truck but once in the
last week and am very anxious to get back into it.

Thanks in advance!!!!
Craig Wallace
'94 F150 300 I-6
Brighton, Il

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From: Fred Moreno <fmoreno dualcurve.com>
Subject: Re: Backyard Propane Fill Stations...
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:35:25 -0600

Tim asked;

Hi Fred,

Just to clarify:  is this the same propane you fill your RV cannisters with?

 Could I get a few-hundred-gallon tank set up in my backyard, have it
filled at a bulk rate, and use it to fuel a propane vehicle?  That would be
a major convenience right there.


Fred replied;

Hi Tim,

Its the same propane, same stuff. Most of the times when I fill my motor
fuel tank, there are at least 3-4 people fill BBQ bottles and someone asks
the question; " you mean your truck runs on BBQ fuel?..."
My standard reply is;" Sure why not? It goes BOOM also."

In a couple of emergency situations, I have filled off our residential tank
(we live out in the sticks). But as Mike in Montana correctly mentioned, it
takes a while.
BTW, its not  legal in most states because you need some certification
allowing you to handle the fuel. And most states don't test you for common
sense.
All you are doing is balancing pressures of the two tanks, so the one you
want to fill will have to have much less pressure than the one you are
trying to fill. You will never be able to actually empty one tank into the
other, only drop its pressure.
I have also gone the other way around where we ran out of propane for the
house, but had plenty in the truck's tank.

Take care and happy motoring,

Phred
1995 F-150, 4x4, 5.0L, 5-speed.




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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:22:49 -0700

It's doesn't matter what size wheel you use.....It all depends on what size
of tire you stik on the wheel.

Josh

-----Original Message-----
From: Lingus0169 aol.com [mailto:Lingus0169 aol.com]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:09 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] speedometer calibration


hi, i blew 2 rears with 5 lug, a 8.8 and 9". so now i have in a dana 60 with

8 lug,. how can i calibrate the speedomoter with the wheel change. 15" to
16"
wheels?
thankx
nick
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:42:07 -0400
From: Harold Norman <harold.norman att.net>
Subject: Re: Tune-up?

John F Brock wrote:
>
> I have a '95 Ligntning with about 56K mi. As far as I know it has never been
> tuned up. Recently it seems to miss under light loads until thoroughy warmed
> up.  Not a terrible miss, but one I can definitely feel.Think it just needs
> plugs, wires, cap , or something else?  What is the normal tune-up interval
> for these engines? Could it be an EGR valve?
>
> thanks,
> John

You might do well to check out these links.

  Linkname: NLOC
       URL: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.nloc.org/index.asp

Linkname: NLOC: Gen 1 Lightnings Discussion Forum
       URL:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://nloc.org/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Ge
         n+1+Lightnings&number=1&DaysPrune=20&LastLogin=

( That's one long URL you have to paste together. )

  Linkname: eGroups : SVT-Lightning Messages :8676-8724 of 8724
       URL: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.egroups.com/messages/SVT-Lightning/?threaded=1

HTH.

-- HN

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From: Craig.Wallace emotors.com
Subject: Re: More on Fuel Pump related Code
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:24:15 -0500

I know.  I know.  More on fuel pump?  Sorry all.  I just have to ask one
more question.

I found something on the Web at lunch that stated "My car stumbles/misses
when accelerating.  Is there a fix?".  Typical answers were spark plugs,
wires, etc.  But the one that caught my eye was this "Other possible causes
include a bad battery connection (or bad battery), leading to poor power to
the fuel pump".  Aha!  I am on the last leg of my battery and was planning
on changing prior to winter.  Noticed Saturday morning that truck didn't
want to start right away as it was 35 degrees outside.  Still have original
battery and truck was built in Oct. 93.  Could this be it?  Could the
battery not have enough juice to supply the nessecary voltage to the fuel
pump when accelerating?  Like I said in an earlier e-mail, it seems to run
better at first, but gets worse as truck heats up.  Seems best at speeds
under 30 MPH.  Once 32 MPH gets hit, engine starts shaking.  Regardless,
battery is getting replaced tomorrow.  Maybe I can save a couple hundred
dollars.  Maybe it's too late.  Don't know.  Will post my findings....

Craig Wallace
'94 F150 300 I-6
Brighton, Il


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From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
Subject: Re: More on Fuel Pump related Code
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:47:52 -0600

Once you get the engine going, you shouldn't need the battery at all, at
least in my experience.  You should be able to actually disconnect the
battery with the engine running and it should stay going.  It would probably
be an easy experiment to disconnect the battery once it's running and see
what happens.

I may be all wet though, because this experience is not Ford based, so you
should see if anyone says it would cause problems first.

Chip

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig.Wallace emotors.com [mailto:Craig.Wallace emotors.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:24 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: More on Fuel Pump related Code


I know.  I know.  More on fuel pump?  Sorry all.  I just have to ask one
more question.

I found something on the Web at lunch that stated "My car stumbles/misses
when accelerating.  Is there a fix?".  Typical answers were spark plugs,
wires, etc.  But the one that caught my eye was this "Other possible causes
include a bad battery connection (or bad battery), leading to poor power to
the fuel pump".  Aha!  I am on the last leg of my battery and was planning
on changing prior to winter.  Noticed Saturday morning that truck didn't
want to start right away as it was 35 degrees outside.  Still have original
battery and truck was built in Oct. 93.  Could this be it?  Could the
battery not have enough juice to supply the nessecary voltage to the fuel
pump when accelerating?  Like I said in an earlier e-mail, it seems to run
better at first, but gets worse as truck heats up.  Seems best at speeds
under 30 MPH.  Once 32 MPH gets hit, engine starts shaking.  Regardless,
battery is getting replaced tomorrow.  Maybe I can save a couple hundred
dollars.  Maybe it's too late.  Don't know.  Will post my findings....

Craig Wallace
'94 F150 300 I-6
Brighton, Il

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From: "Terence Underwood" <terenceu1 prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:59:31 -0500

> It's doesn't matter what size wheel you use.....It all depends on
> what size
> of tire you stik on the wheel.
>
> Josh

This is true, unless you are using P-metric tires.

Terence Underwood
terenceu1 prodigy.net

'95 Bronco EB/351W/E4OD/BW1356/8.8 3.55 open/tow pack.
'94 Probe GT/K&N cone/Dunlop SP5000/Redline lubed



> -----Original Message-----
> From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Nichols, Josh
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:23 PM
> To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: speedometer calibration
>
>
> It's doesn't matter what size wheel you use.....It all depends on
> what size
> of tire you stik on the wheel.
>
> Josh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lingus0169 aol.com [mailto:Lingus0169 aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:09 PM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [80-96-list] speedometer calibration
>
>
> hi, i blew 2 rears with 5 lug, a 8.8 and 9". so now i have in a
> dana 60 with
>
> 8 lug,. how can i calibrate the speedomoter with the wheel change. 15" to
> 16"
> wheels?
> thankx
> nick
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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:12:57 -0700

Even using P-metric sized tires, you can use any size rim you want and it
will not affect the speedo.  It's the size of the tire that will affect the
speedo.

And yes changing from a 265/75 R15 to a 265/75 R16 will change the speedo
but not because of the different rim, but because the 265/75 R16 is an inch
taller than the 265/75 R15

Josh

-----Original Message-----
From: Terence Underwood [mailto:terenceu1 prodigy.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:00 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: speedometer calibration


> It's doesn't matter what size wheel you use.....It all depends on
> what size
> of tire you stik on the wheel.
>
> Josh

This is true, unless you are using P-metric tires.

Terence Underwood
terenceu1 prodigy.net

'95 Bronco EB/351W/E4OD/BW1356/8.8 3.55 open/tow pack.
'94 Probe GT/K&N cone/Dunlop SP5000/Redline lubed



> -----Original Message-----
> From: 80-96-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:23 PM
> To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: speedometer calibration
>
>
> It's doesn't matter what size wheel you use.....It all depends on
> what size
> of tire you stik on the wheel.
>
> Josh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lingus0169 aol.com [mailto:Lingus0169 aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:09 PM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [80-96-list] speedometer calibration
>
>
> hi, i blew 2 rears with 5 lug, a 8.8 and 9". so now i have in a
> dana 60 with
>
> 8 lug,. how can i calibrate the speedomoter with the wheel change. 15" to
> 16"
> wheels?
> thankx
> nick
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From: rexbennett eibiz.net
Subject: Re: More on Fuel Pump related Code
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:33:24 -0500

Craig
I'm not sure on the code but before I went and spent the money on a new fuel
pump I would check it by connecting a mechanical pressure gauge to the fuel
rail.  It has a connection on it that looks like a valve stem on a tire.
When I did this I didn't have anything that would screw on the connection so
I removed the stem with a regular valve stem tool and slid a piece of 1/4"
rubber fuel line on the fitting and held it on with a small hose clamp. Make
sure the hose will hold the pressure (can't remember exactly what pressure
you should see but it seems like it was around 70 PSI I'm at work and don't
have a manual to look it up) I ran the line through the fire wall and
connected it to a pressure gauge so I could check it when running down the
road. If you do find that your fuel pressure is not in spec remember that
there is also a pressure regulator that works off of engine vacuum to vary
the fuel pressure I have heard of these going bad although I have never had
any problems with them and of course don't forget the fuel filter although I
think you said you changed it in a previous message.  I assume your having
this problem with both tanks which leads me to believe it's not the pumps,
it would be unlikely that both pumps went bad at the same time if this is
true I would look closely at the rest of the fuel pump electrical circuit
that the two tanks have in common.

Rex

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To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] More on Fuel Pump related Code


Hey all.

I desparately need some help here.  Found out yesterday that fuel pumps for
F150 trucks are not cheap.  $250 a piece at your trusty local Ford dealer or
$126 for front and $132 for rear thru Auto Zone.  Needless to say, I will
opt for the latter and do this myself.  However, I don't just want to jump
into this without being for sure that is my problem.  I've sent out a few
e-mails in the last week or two explaining my symptoms and received a few
responses only to find out there are others with similar problems.  The
symptoms were loss of power and added fuel consumption.  Eventually, as
truck heated up, symptoms only got worse and truck seemed to shake badly
when accelerating (especially uphill.....this is where loss of power was at
it's worst).  I replaced all the obvious parts for a tune-up only to find
out nothing fixed the problem.  Then ran codes this weekend and received the
542 continuous code which stated "Fuel Pump circuit failure - PCM to GRD".
I've since found another definition that states "Fuel pump open, bad ground
or always on - - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits".  Does anybody have experience
with this?  I need to get this fixed, but am very hesitant to just fork out
$250 only to find out it's not the problem.  Are the symptoms specified
definitely related to the fuel pump?  Or is it something in-line with the
fuel pump that needs replaced?  Has anyone else received the same code and
been able to fix the problem?  I haven't driven my truck but once in the
last week and am very anxious to get back into it.

Thanks in advance!!!!
Craig Wallace
'94 F150 300 I-6
Brighton, Il


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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:02:06 +1000
From: les williams <lesw cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: Propane Power.



Buck Shoff wrote:
>
> Most places also want
> you to pay road tax if you run your propane vehicle on the road.  Let
> your conscious be your guide.   Buck Shoff
>
>

... you don't get any tax break for using a cleaner, less polluting,
environmentally friendly fuel ??? Phew !! Tough Audience ...
Down here, the race is on to engineer & package  an LPG/NCG solution to
diesel. If you can prove you kit can reduce diesel pollution levels by
50%, the tax breaks available are very worth while. Anybody in OZ that
saw the 7.30 Report on Monday Night would now know what I am referring
to.

Regards

Les


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From: Lingus0169 aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:25:24 EDT
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration

no, i changed tire size/ wheels size, from a 15 inch wheel to a 16 inch wheel

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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:45:56 -0700

what about the diameter of the tires---are they the same???
Josh

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no, i changed tire size/ wheels size, from a 15 inch wheel to a 16 inch
wheel
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:23:54 -0700
From: Chuck Sanborn <slammer deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration

At 12:45 PM 10/10/00 -0700, you wrote:
>what about the diameter of the tires---are they the same???
>Josh

If he went from a 265/75/15  to a 265/75/16 the diameter of the tire
is 1" larger......from 30.65 to 31.65
Chuck
Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
1986 F150 six banger


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From: Craig.Wallace emotors.com
Subject: Re: More on Fuel Pump related Code
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:13:13 -0500

Rex Bennett says "before I went and spent the money on a new fuel
> pump I would check it by connecting a mechanical pressure gauge to the
> fuel
> rail."
>
Thanks, Rex!!  Will do.  I'll post my findings....
Craig Wallace
'94 F150 300 I-6
Brighton, Il



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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:59:23 -0700

That's exactly what I said in an earliear post----I simply said that the rim
size has nothing to do with the speedo being off.....It is strickly due to
the tire size.  If he kept the same OD tire he has nothing to worry about.
If he increased his tire size or decreased his tire size (w/o chaging speedo
or rear end ratio) then his speedo WILL be off.

Josh

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At 12:45 PM 10/10/00 -0700, you wrote:
>what about the diameter of the tires---are they the same???
>Josh

If he went from a 265/75/15  to a 265/75/16 the diameter of the tire
is 1" larger......from 30.65 to 31.65
Chuck
Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
1986 F150 six banger

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:24:37 -0700
From: Chuck Sanborn <slammer deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration

At 01:59 PM 10/10/00 -0700, you wrote:
>If he kept the same OD tire he has nothing to worry about.

That's the point...he went from a 265/75/15 to a 265/75/16
Same tire size, larger wheel.  Tire size (O.D.)before was 30.95 and
tire size (O.D.) after is 31.95 which is one inch larger in diameter.
Therefore his speedo is no different than before....
However, if he went with, say, a 235/75/16 then his O.D. will be
in the neighborhood of 29.875".  about an inch LESS than the
265/75/15's.
A 265/55/16 would probably be about the same as the original size tire.





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:42:12 -0700
From: Chuck Sanborn <slammer deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration

At 02:24 PM 10/10/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Therefore his speedo is no different than before....

Should have said "...is NOW different than before"




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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:53:40 -0700

only different because he changed to a larger diameter tire!

Josh

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At 02:24 PM 10/10/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Therefore his speedo is no different than before....

Should have said "...is NOW different than before"



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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:49:10 -0700

A 265/75/15 is NOT the same size tire as a 265/75/16.

A 265/75/15 is 10.4" wide and  30.65" tall

A 265/75/16 is 10.4" wide and 31.65" tall

How can you say these are the same size tire?

If these tires used the floation type measurement it would be much more
obvious they are different.

one would be a 31.5X10.5 R15
the other would be a 30.5X10.5 R16

BTW  if he wanted the same size tire just 16" rim it would be a P265/70 R16

Josh
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:25 PM
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Subject: [80-96-list] Re: speedometer calibration


At 01:59 PM 10/10/00 -0700, you wrote:
>If he kept the same OD tire he has nothing to worry about.

That's the point...he went from a 265/75/15 to a 265/75/16
Same tire size, larger wheel.  Tire size (O.D.)before was 30.95 and
tire size (O.D.) after is 31.95 which is one inch larger in diameter.
Therefore his speedo is no different than before....
However, if he went with, say, a 235/75/16 then his O.D. will be
in the neighborhood of 29.875".  about an inch LESS than the
265/75/15's.
A 265/55/16 would probably be about the same as the original size tire.




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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:11:20 -0700
From: Chuck Sanborn <slammer deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: speedometer calibration

At 02:49 PM 10/10/00 -0700, you wrote:
>How can you say these are the same size tire?

Sorry, wrong nomenclature.  Same tire width, same aspect ratio,
different rim size....





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