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80-96-list Digest Sat, 07 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 212

In This Issue:
Ignition problem
Oil pressure sender...need part number
Re: Glow Plugs
Re: Oil pressure sender...need part number
Re: Oil pressure sender...need part number
Re: Oil pressure sender...need part number
New 351W
Tune-up?
Re: Oil pressure sender...need part number
Yikes... Cold and Diesels....

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Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 16:52:06 -0500
From: Chuck Biggs <biggs flash.net>
Subject: Ignition problem

I turned the key on my 1990 F-150 to start it this morning and I felt a click when it went to "start" and the key
stopped in the start position.  It lost the "springy" resistance normally present when starting the truck.  The starter
will not turn over (nothing at all) and the shift lever is stuck in Park.  The key moves through "acc" to "off" to
"start" but it stops "hard" on start.  I have the factory manuals but I am not sure where to look.  Is this an ignition
lock cylinder problem or a switch actuator rod from the ignition lock cylinder problem or an ignition switch problem?
The steering wheel unlocks when I turn the key to "On" but the shift lever will not move out of Park.  I finally crawled
under the truck and disconnected the transmission from shift lever so I could push the truck out to the curb, unblocking
my garage.

Thanks for any advice you might have.

Chuck




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Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 17:29:23 -0700
From: Steve Deis <steve avdec.com>
Subject: Oil pressure sender...need part number

I'm trying to find a resistance-type oil pressure sender to replace the
off-on switch sender in my '88 F-150.

Somebody posted about a month or so that an '87 Bronco sender could be
used...that shows as a switch in my parts listing.

Shop manual describes a resistance sender with 9.7 ohms resistance on
the low side, and 73 ohms on the high side.

Does anyone have a NAPA/Echlin/Autolite/Delco/whatever part number??

Thanks in advance for any help.

Steve Deis

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Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 19:57:02 -0500
From: "a b" <pedalfox bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Glow Plugs

Try this guy's site. Lots of diesel info and trouble shooting stuff. He even
answered an email question about my wife's '96 F-250 stalling.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.intellidog.com/dieselmann/home.html
Bill G

WoodStck45 aol.com wrote:

> Guys,
>
>     We have a 1994 F-250 with the 7.3L non-turbo charged diesel in it.  Last
> year ar this time it kept eating glow plugs.  (It would eat like 5 or 6 at a
> time).  The guy at the ford dealer said that there was some relay or
> something that was bad.  So we put that new part on there and replaced the 2
> or 3 bad glow plugs.  The truck ran great for about a week then two more
> plugs, went out so we replaced them.  The truck gave us no more probs thru
> the whole winter season, but is acting up now.  Gots any ideas why it keeps
> eating the plugs?  I thought maybe having like 6 brand new plugs and 2 old
> plugs put alot of strain on the new ones and caused them to burn out, but
> maybe I'm wrong.  Is there another relay somewhere else we haven't found yet?
>  Should we put eight new ones in it so it will be equal pull on all of them?
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Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 22:51:23 -0500
From: Jim Cannon <jcannon SoftHome.net>
Subject: Re: Oil pressure sender...need part number

Steve-
The oil gauge sender for my 1980 F-150 is the variable resistance type you
describe, so you can ask at any parts place for one of them. I'm not sure
what you are going to do with it, though. If your truck is expecting
on/off, what will it think when it gets some voltage inbetween?


At 17:29 07-10-00 -0700, you wrote:
>I'm trying to find a resistance-type oil pressure sender to replace the
>off-on switch sender in my '88 F-150.
>
>Somebody posted about a month or so that an '87 Bronco sender could be
>used...that shows as a switch in my parts listing.
>
>Shop manual describes a resistance sender with 9.7 ohms resistance on
>the low side, and 73 ohms on the high side.
>
>Does anyone have a NAPA/Echlin/Autolite/Delco/whatever part number??


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX                            "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton                 and a helluva' engineer!"
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD              '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8


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Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 22:29:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Derek Whiteside <derekw rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Oil pressure sender...need part number

I suspect he's just going to mount it in the stock location, and then
wire in a guage of some sort.

for what it's worth,

Derek Whiteside

--- Jim Cannon <jcannon SoftHome.net> wrote:
> Steve-
> The oil gauge sender for my 1980 F-150 is the variable resistance
> type you
> describe, so you can ask at any parts place for one of them. I'm not
> sure
> what you are going to do with it, though. If your truck is expecting
> on/off, what will it think when it gets some voltage inbetween?
>
>
> At 17:29 07-10-00 -0700, you wrote:
> >I'm trying to find a resistance-type oil pressure sender to replace
> the
> >off-on switch sender in my '88 F-150.
> >
> >Somebody posted about a month or so that an '87 Bronco sender could
> be
> >used...that shows as a switch in my parts listing.
> >
> >Shop manual describes a resistance sender with 9.7 ohms resistance
> on
> >the low side, and 73 ohms on the high side.
> >
> >Does anyone have a NAPA/Echlin/Autolite/Delco/whatever part number??
>
>
> Jim Cannon
> Houston, TX                            "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia
> Tech
> '29 Ford Model A Phaeton                 and a helluva' engineer!"
> '80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD              '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
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From: "Wallace A. Gustafson" <cobra2004 earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Oil pressure sender...need part number
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 08:09:54 -0700

If you are running a 5.0 V-8 -- The part number should be F3ZZ-9278-A
(SW-2433).  Check with local Ford Dealer to verify.

Wallace A. Gustafson
1991 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 Convertible (Cobra & Police Modifications)
1991 Ford F-150 XLT Lariat (Police Modifications -- In Process)
1976 Kawasaki KZ900A4 (Restoration Project)

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Deis <steve avdec.com>
To: <80-96-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 5:29 PM
Subject: [80-96-list] Oil pressure sender...need part number


> I'm trying to find a resistance-type oil pressure sender to replace the
> off-on switch sender in my '88 F-150.
>
> Somebody posted about a month or so that an '87 Bronco sender could be
> used...that shows as a switch in my parts listing.
>
> Shop manual describes a resistance sender with 9.7 ohms resistance on
> the low side, and 73 ohms on the high side.
>
> Does anyone have a NAPA/Echlin/Autolite/Delco/whatever part number??
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Steve Deis
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>


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From: "Del quattro" <delquattro hotmail.com>
Subject: New 351W
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 15:59:21 GMT


Fellow enthusiasts:


Over the summer, I ordered a 351W from Ford-Power.com. It is balanced
(although I specified a new flywheel, Joe is somewhat disorganized and
didn't remember to balance one with the motor) and blueprinted. It has an RV
cam, Crane roller rockers, etc.
I couldn't find headers for my '83, so I ordered newer model year shorty
headers. I plan to insert an oxygen sensor (wired to a fuel mixture guage)
in the extra section of pipe that is welded to the right side header.  The
600 cfm Edelbrock sandwiches a 1" phenolic spacer with a Jet-Hot coated
intake, as well as headers.
The modification that I'm particularly proud of is a pre-lube system
I came up with before I knew about Accusump's. I ordered an aluminum
cannister from Summit Racing ($50), a set of 1/2" hose ($40) and an electric
solenoid operated valve from racerpartswholesale.com for $100. With a high
flow oil pump, my oil pressure guage runs right at the "L" in "NORMAL". When
I turn the key to on, fasten my seatbelt and wait a few seconds, the oil
that is pressurized in the cannister and 72" of hose is released to the
motor, bringing the pressure up to between the "N" and the "O". When the
motor runs, the valve is open, when the key is turned off, the valve locks
the pressure into the cannister and hose until the key is turned back "on".
My tired old motor with a Jacobs ignition used to get 10-11 mpg, now, my
new, better performing motor is getting between 12-13 mpg. At 7500ft
elevation I opted to continue with a single exhaust, but I hope to increase
the diameter to 3" as soon as I can find someone who'll eliminate the cat.
Overall, I'm happy with the motor Joe sent me. I would suggest that if you
order from him specify in writing (we talked over the phone) and you may
want to paint the motor when you get it - it isn't blue like the photos
at his website.

Later,

Del Sharp
Vail, Colorado


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From: "John F Brock" <brocker ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Tune-up?
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:57:57 -0400

I have a '95 Ligntning with about 56K mi. As far as I know it has never been
tuned up. Recently it seems to miss under light loads until thoroughy warmed
up.  Not a terrible miss, but one I can definitely feel.Think it just needs
plugs, wires, cap , or something else?  What is the normal tune-up interval
for these engines? Could it be an EGR valve?

thanks,
John


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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 14:07:07 -0400
From: Shawn Clemons <sclemons vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Oil pressure sender...need part number

After 88, the 'gauge' isn't really a gauge at all -- the sending unit
closes as soon as it sees greater than 3 psi, and a resistor across the
gauge makes sure that the needle pops up into the 'normal' range. By
cutting out the resistor and replacing the sending unit, you can have a
functioning gauge. As long as it reads above the low mark, the computer
assumes everything is fine. It won't know the difference.

At 10:29 PM 10/7/00 -0700, you wrote:
>I suspect he's just going to mount it in the stock location, and then
>wire in a guage of some sort.
>
>for what it's worth,
>
>Derek Whiteside

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Shawn Clemons
'90 Bronco XLT 5.0EFI M5OD 4.10LS 4" 35's
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superford.org/users/sclemons/index.html

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From: "Dave Harmier" <dharmier pdq.net>
Subject: Yikes... Cold and Diesels....
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:22:43 -0500

Only moderately cold and wet this am.. the Beast was cantankerous at best
about lighting off.

Needless to say, I've dug out the block heater plug, and will use it as a
religion.
Of course, once started she purred like a kitten.

Never owned a Diesel before, so I'm learning things!

Dave H.
Houston, TX (south)

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