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80-96-list Digest Wed, 04 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 209

In This Issue:
Re: f15o 4wd 300I6 1981 duel tanks
Re: f15o 4wd 300I6 1981 duel tanks
Re: f15o 4wd 300I6 1981 duel tanks
Re: f15o 4wd 300I6 1981 duel tanks
Re: Catalytic Converter
Re: Catalytic Converter
Ford V8 Swap - 302 vs. 351?

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From: Mc Gregor JAMES <MOSJMMG mossgas.co.za>
Subject: Re: f15o 4wd 300I6 1981 duel tanks
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:32:13 +0200

I am slowly working through things that can go wrong at this stage of my
vehicles life.Surprised to find that there are no fuel filters visible in
the engine bay.

Are these in the tank , how do I maintain them ?


James



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From: "Atkinson, Chip" <CAtkinson Circadence.com>
Subject: Re: f15o 4wd 300I6 1981 duel tanks
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:40:44 -0600

I know that on my '80 F250 there is a fine screen inside the tank itself,
and then there is a small filter that is attached to the carburetor where
the fuel line joins on to it.

Ideally you shouldn't have to maintain the screen in the tank because it's
in a more or less clean environment (ha ha). I just finished brazing patches
over the holes in my tank last night and did see some particulate matter in
the bottom.  Some of it is rust and some is no doubt dirt since holes are
two way ports.  My maintenance will consist of trying to sand out the rusty
spots and vacuuming out the bits of crud.  Then I'll replace the fuel filter
on the carb after the first tank.

Chip

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From: Mc Gregor JAMES [mailto:MOSJMMG mossgas.co.za]
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I am slowly working through things that can go wrong at this stage of my
vehicles life.Surprised to find that there are no fuel filters visible in
the engine bay.

Are these in the tank , how do I maintain them ?


James


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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 11:34:38 -0500
From: Larry Schmiedekamp <Larry.Schmiedekamp angelo.edu>
Subject: Re: f15o 4wd 300I6 1981 duel tanks

James

You might look along the frame of your truck.

Larry




At 04:32 PM 10/4/00 +0200, you wrote:
>I am slowly working through things that can go wrong at this stage of my
>vehicles life.Surprised to find that there are no fuel filters visible in
>the engine bay.
>
>Are these in the tank , how do I maintain them ?
>
>
>James
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From: "Wallace A. Gustafson" <cobra2004 earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: f15o 4wd 300I6 1981 duel tanks
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:04:50 -0700

The fuel filter in on the inside of the left hand frame rail -- just behind
the cab.

Wallace A. Gustafson
1991 Ford Mustang 5.0 LX Convertible (Cobra & Police Interceptor
Modifications
1991 Ford F-150 XLT Lariat
1976 Kawasaki KZ-900A4


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> James
>
> You might look along the frame of your truck.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
>
> At 04:32 PM 10/4/00 +0200, you wrote:
> >I am slowly working through things that can go wrong at this stage of my
> >vehicles life.Surprised to find that there are no fuel filters visible in
> >the engine bay.
> >
> >Are these in the tank , how do I maintain them ?
> >
> >
> >James
> >
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From: "Nelson Vasconcelos" <NelsonV mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Catalytic Converter
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:14:31 -0400

Hey Craig,
   My truck has just about the same problem your speaking of. It sometimes
idles rough and the fuel consumption is much higher. If you accelerate from
idle you can still hear and feel the roughness but it's not as noticeable.
I've troubleshot it for a few months now and I've replaced the EGR valve,
EGR valve position sensor, PCV valve and O2 sensor. I also installed a
Jacobs ignition and I did a tune up at the same time. The plugs, wires, cap
and rotor are all new. I also cleaned the throttle body and IAC. I don't
think it's the Cats, because my exhaust sounds the same as it did before.
I'm still trying to figure it out. I'm gonna do a compression and timing
check this week.

If anyone has had any experience with this problem I would appreciate any
help to get rid of this gremlin...

Thanks,
Nelson
89 Ford F150 4x4
300 L6, 5sp
4" Skyjacker lift, 3" body lift, 33" BFG AT's


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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 13:28:10 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy <bobkennedy uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Catalytic Converter

Have you ran the codes. Mine did this after sitting at a drive through for a
while. I thought it would accelerate out of it and it didn't. I managed to find
a melted vacuum line to the MAP sensor. Cut the bad piece out and it's idling
smooth again.

Bob


Nelson Vasconcelos wrote:

> Hey Craig,
>     My truck has just about the same problem your speaking of. It sometimes
> idles rough and the fuel consumption is much higher. If you accelerate from
> idle you can still hear and feel the roughness but it's not as noticeable.
> I've troubleshot it for a few months now and I've replaced the EGR valve,
> EGR valve position sensor, PCV valve and O2 sensor. I also installed a
> Jacobs ignition and I did a tune up at the same time. The plugs, wires, cap
> and rotor are all new. I also cleaned the throttle body and IAC. I don't
> think it's the Cats, because my exhaust sounds the same as it did before.
> I'm still trying to figure it out. I'm gonna do a compression and timing
> check this week.
>
> If anyone has had any experience with this problem I would appreciate any
> help to get rid of this gremlin...
>
> Thanks,
> Nelson
> 89 Ford F150 4x4
> 300 L6, 5sp
>  4" Skyjacker lift, 3" body lift, 33" BFG AT's
>
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:40:32 -0700
From: Randy Burleson <randii 4x4wire.com>
Subject: Ford V8 Swap - 302 vs. 351?

I have been accumulating info on acquiring a Ford V8 ... it needs to be
90-or-later if I want to drop it into my Amigo and still smog it in CA (I do).

I had picked the H.O. version of the 302 ... which I believe only came in
the Mustang, and a handful of full size cop sedans. I knew there are LOTS
of other donor vehicles with the same block (Grand Marquis, Crown Vic,
pickup, van, etc.) but they don't have the same power and economy package
for which the H.O. is recognized.  Heck, there's more than a few variations
of Mustang motors... Ford changed the 302 multiple times over the years.
For the 90's the big milestones are: hyperutectic slugs come stock in
93-and-up motors, and I believe Ford revised the water pump and accessory
package in 94 to make a shorter, narrower powerplant. Of course, in the
late 90's, Ford built the SOHC and DOHC 4.7 "modular" engines, but they
aren't yet sufficiently cheap for my budget, and they measure very wide
compared to the Windsor motors.

Several folks have been pushing me to go with the 351 Windsor from the
truck line, suggesting that the fuel economy won't be all that different
from a 302... but I worry. I'm thinking that the 302, in near-stock form,
will provide 100% better hp and torque than my stock inline four, and still
keep me moderately frugal with respect to gasoline. Call me a dreamer....
35" tires pretty much kill fuel economy, regardless.

So that's the intro; here are the questions:
1.) I prefer a MAF injection scheme (better adaptability and better
economy) -- did any vehicles produced after 1990 (smog gating factor for
me) come with a 351W  with MAF? I know some came with the 351W set up for
speed-density.
2.) I intend to run a manual transmission... so I believe I need to focus
on the early 90s donor vehicles, which only had OBD-1. In CA, running an
OBD-II computer requires that you use the tranny for which the computer was
built.... are there any 351W's produced after 1990 that used a manual
transmission?

I dug through the archives, but didn't find enough info for a decision, so
now I'm polling the group's collective late-model wisdom.

Randii
Randy Burleson
Managing Editor
4x4Wire, the Outdoor Recreation Network (ORN)
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4x4wire.com


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