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80-96-list Digest Wed, 27 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 203

In This Issue:
F350 opinion
Changes needed for larger tires.
Re: Changes needed for larger tires.
Touch-Ups!!
Lack of power when warm
intake manifold
ADMIN: All new 2001 Ford trucks
Re: New Displacement of Overbore
Re: New Displacement of Overbore
Re: New Displacement of Overbore
Rattle Noise
Re: Help- Need Radiator
"86 vs "87 info needed
Re: New Displacement of Overbore
Re: Rattle Noise

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:28:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Rozell <prozell yahoo.com>
Subject: F350 opinion

Hi All,
Just wanted to get some opinions on a 1995 F350. I am looking at an F350 W/ crewcab. single rear
wheel with a 351 motor. I do not do alot of heavy duty hauling at this point. I wanted to see what
the rest of your opinions might be.


thanks,
Paul Rozell
65 F100 460 C6
96 F150 SC 5.0


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From: "Kyle .." <kgoley hotmail.com>
Subject: Changes needed for larger tires.
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:34:09 CDT



Hey everyone! I sent a message awile back about a clang and shaking in my
truck, I got it fixed finally. The counterbalance weight on the flywheel
came off and I had a bad valve and a cracked head. She's running great now!!
Anyways, that not my only reason for sending a message. I want to put a set
of 33x12.50x15 Wild Country tires on Eagle 589 rims on my truck. I'm pretty
sure i'll need at least 3 inches on body lift to safely fit them. What is
the best lift to go with? And should I go for 4 inches while i'm at it? And
lastly, what kind of effect will these tires have on my speedometer
accuracy?

Kyle Goley
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K&N Air Filter
Dual Flowmaster exhuast
Alpine CD Player
Cobra CB
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:55:20 -0700
Subject: New Displacement of Overbore
From: Joan and Walt Posluszny <redstone home.com>

What the Cubic Inch Displacement of a 302 bored .030 over.  Thanks   Walt


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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:18:22 +0100
From: Shawn Clemons <sclemons vt.edu>
Subject: Re: Changes needed for larger tires.

You can fit 33x12.5 tires on a stock truck as long as your springs are
still in good shape. You might see a bit of rubbing, but probably only
off-road. I know several guys that run Broncos this way -- two of which ran
the Rubicon like this. If you run sway bars front and rear, you have even
less to worry about. You will experience rubbing on the radius arms and
front sway bar with wider tires. You can adjust the steering stops to
prevent this.

I'll be the first to tell you -- I hate body lifts. Don't like the way they
look, and think they're way more trouble than they're worth. Maybe 1-2",
but never 3". If you really want the lift, go with a 3" or 4" suspension
lift. Superlift, Rancho, and Cepek all make very high quality kits.

The speedo will need a new gear. You can buy them at Ford, they come as a
pair for about $8. Pull the speedo cable out of the xfer case (near the
rear output shaft), pull off the retainer clip, replace the gear. You need
to calculate the difference in rolling radius (or circumference, it doesn't
matter) between the new tires and the old ones. The nominal diameter isn't
what you want to go by, as most 33" tires aren't 33". The ratio between the
new and old tire should be approximately equal to the ratio of old and new
speedo gears (you'll want a gear with fewer teeth, btw)

So, old tire/new tire equals new gear/old gear.


>Hey everyone! I sent a message awile back about a clang and shaking in my
>truck, I got it fixed finally. The counterbalance weight on the flywheel
>came off and I had a bad valve and a cracked head. She's running great
>now!! Anyways, that not my only reason for sending a message. I want to
>put a set of 33x12.50x15 Wild Country tires on Eagle 589 rims on my truck.
>I'm pretty sure i'll need at least 3 inches on body lift to safely fit
>them. What is the best lift to go with? And should I go for 4 inches while
>i'm at it? And lastly, what kind of effect will these tires have on my
>speedometer accuracy?


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From: "shannon hoyt" <securluv hotmail.com>
Subject: Touch-Ups!!
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:26:49 GMT

Guys,
    I just happend to luck out getting some great deals at a Cabellas
Outfitters store in Minnesota.  I found some Diamond Plate, chrome bed-side
covers, and one for the rail just behind the cab, and also a tow package
listed for an Aerostar Van.  Total Price = $30.
The problem is the Rail covers are listed for a 94-00 Dodge.  I own a 94'
F-150, Standard cab, long bed.
Question I have for you pros/handy-men, will I be able to use these look
enhancers on my truck, or will I have to use some amazing ability to
retro-fit these parts onto my truck?  And for those of you wondering, no
they didn't have any other specific parts.  These were being clearenced and
with amazing %discounts. Hey, for $30, no scratches or dents, who would
argue that for parts that would normally total $350.26.
Thanks for your advice in advance.
94' in Iowa
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From: "Darren Fry" <frydar accessone.com>
Subject: Lack of power when warm
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:54:20 -0700

I have an odd problem I am hoping you guys can shed some light on.

I have a '96 F350 crew with a 460.

The truck runs good when cool, or when operating in cool weather, but
suffers a lack of power when it gets heat soaked.

It is most apparent when in stop and go traffic with the air conditioning
on.

The temp gauge is pretty steady and the engine does not overheat.
I have scanned for trouble codes but  there are none.
Brand new exhaust including cat and O2 sensor. ( Banks kit)

Has anyone had similar experience? Not sure where to begin my search.

Thanks in advance

Darren




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From: "Del quattro" <delquattro hotmail.com>
Subject: intake manifold
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:00:43 GMT

Hello!
So, in the course of getting my Performer intake manifold Jet-Hot coated, I
lost some dang little piece that covers a hole on the left side of the
carburetor and is held down by two bolts.  Anybody know of anything spiffy I
could put in its place, or even know of an old one?  There aren't too many
junk yards out here, near Vail - that's why I'm asking ya'll.  My engine is
an '83 351W.  Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:24:32 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: All new 2001 Ford trucks

There are several new Ford Motor Company press releases on
the FTE web site.  Ford slam dunks the competition with the
new Super CrewZer, it makes the Super Duty and Excursion
look small.  Can you say tractor-trailor rig in your driveway?

Here's the list of press releases:

2001 King Ranch F-150 SuperCrew
2001 Ford F-650 Super CrewZer
Super Duty F-Series -- One in a Million
The 2001 Platinum Edition Ford Super Duty F-250
Ford Super Duty F-Series -- The Clear Leader in Customer Choice

You can find them at <a href="http://www.ford-trucks.com">www.ford-trucks.com</a>

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:16:52 EDT
Subject: Re: New Displacement of Overbore

Walt,
That's a 306.


Later,
Wayne Foy
NLOC #484
94 Flareside SC
#2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:44:53 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy <bobkennedy uswest.net>
Subject: Re: New Displacement of Overbore

What's the formula, Wayne? I've run my 302 out .040 and would
like to know how to compute that.

Bob


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From: FLR150 aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:30:16 EDT
Subject: Re: New Displacement of Overbore

Bob,
I don't know the formula off hand. But I am in the process of having my 5.0
redone and the machine shop owner told me that was the displacement on a .030
with stock stroke and rod length, a 310 is a .040 on stock bore and rod
length.
Later,
Wayne Foy
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Atlanta GA
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From: "Obert, Scott AT3" <ObertS constellation.navy.mil>
Subject: Rattle Noise
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:08:17 -0700

Hi guys,

I have a rattle noise coming from my tranny I think.  I noticed it last
week.  It happens when I step on the gas pedal real good in any gear except
1st or reverse.  It's most noticeable when on the freeway in 5th going over
60.  I pulled the transmission out last weekend because it was time to
change the clutch anyway.  There was a lot of metal on the drain plug when I
drained the fluid, so I took the top cover off of it and took a look inside
and it was real clean all the metal sludge was only collected on the drain
plug.  Also, the input shaft had a lot of play in it, nobody open on the
weekend had an input shaft bearing besides Ford ($90) so I put the tranny
back in and went and picked up the bearing yesterday at a transmission shop
for $50.  Put the bearing in today, got the tranny back in, lots less play
in the input shaft now, but it still makes the rattle noise.  It's the M5OD
tranny.  Anybody got any clues??

Thanks,
Scott

1995 F150 4X4
302 SB

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From: "Mark Salvetti" <msalvetti mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Help- Need Radiator
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:17:54 -0400

John wrote:
> Would any of you gentlemen know of a good source to purchase a radiator
for
> my 93 E150 5.8 Club Wagon?

John, if you decide to replace, also stick with a radiator shop.  I try to
stay away from Autozone, but I needed to replace my leaky radiator over a
weekend, and they were the only place with one in stock.  Problem was, my
truck's radiator is small (no A/C, manual) and the "generic" Autozone unit
was thicker, had transmission cooler fittings, and was too tall.  So the fan
shroud wouldn't go back on.  Had to put my old radiator back in and wait for
Monday.

Ended up with an exact replacement Modine from a radiator shop, and it was
cheaper than Autozone (about $150).

By the way, I also thought mine could be fixed as some people have
suggested.  I had a crack in one of the plastic end tanks.  But none of the
radiator shops I called around here would touch it.  They all said my only
choice was to replace it.

Mark Salvetti
1986 F150 2WD 5.0L
Saugus, MA


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From: johnhfleming juno.com
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:14:51 -0700
Subject: "86 vs "87 info needed

I have an "86 F150 and am always on the lookout for "goodies" for it. I
see a lot of adds for stuff for "87-"9? and was wondering what the
difference was on certain parts. I realize the body changed then (I
think) but I mean things like "shorty headers", mechanical stuff mostly.
How about front springs? are they the same?

John

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From: Harmonybapt cs.com
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:14:42 EDT
Subject: Re: New Displacement of Overbore

In a message dated 9/27/00 10:25:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
bobkennedy uswest.net writes:

<< What's the formula, Wayne? I've run my 302 out .040 and would
like to know how to compute that. >>

It's simple geometry:
<{[(bore/2)^2]3.14}stroke># of cylinders
displacement is calculate using the above formula as follows:
divide bore by two to get radius of the cylinder, square the quotient, and
multiply by pi (3.14).  This gives you the area of a circle.  multiply that
by the stroke.  This gives you displacement PER CYLINDER , so multiply all of
that by the number of cylinders to get the total CID

A 302 is originally 4.00X3.00

stock bore:
4.000 / 2 = 2.000 ^2 = 4.000 X 3.14 = 12.56 X 3.00 = 37.68 X 8 = 301.44 CID
The 302 is actually about 301.5CID, but we lost a little by rounding to the
nearest.001 in the equation

bored .030 over:
4.030 / 2 = 2.015 ^2 = 4.060 X 3.14 = 12.748 X 3.00 = 38.244 X 8 = 305.95, or
306CID

someone asked about a .040 overbore:
4.040 / 2 =2.020 ^2 = 4.080 X 3.14 = 12.811 X3.00 = 38.433 X 8 = 307.46, or
307 CID

Of course, if the crank has been modified to increase stroke length you'd
need to factor that in as well.
Everybody understand this?  good.  There will be a test on it tomorrow.  :)

Nate

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:20:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Roger Lane <Lanero excite.com>
Subject: Re: Rattle Noise

When you replaced the clutch, did you also check/replace the pilot bearing?
My guess is, if there was a lot of play with the input bearing, maybe the
pilot bearing was also bad.

On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:08:17 -0700, 80-96-list ford-trucks.com wrote:

>  Hi guys,
>
>  I have a rattle noise coming from my tranny I think.  I noticed it last
>  week.  It happens when I step on the gas pedal real good in any gear
except
>  1st or reverse.  It's most noticeable when on the freeway in 5th going
over
>  60.  I pulled the transmission out last weekend because it was time to
>  change the clutch anyway.  There was a lot of metal on the drain plug
when I
>  drained the fluid, so I took the top cover off of it and took a look
inside
>  and it was real clean all the metal sludge was only collected on the
drain
>  plug.  Also, the input shaft had a lot of play in it, nobody open on the
>  weekend had an input shaft bearing besides Ford ($90) so I put the tranny
>  back in and went and picked up the bearing yesterday at a transmission
shop
>  for $50.  Put the bearing in today, got the tranny back in, lots less
play
>  in the input shaft now, but it still makes the rattle noise.  It's the
M5OD
>  tranny.  Anybody got any clues??
>
>  Thanks,
>  Scott
>
>  1995 F150 4X4
>  302 SB
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