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80-96-list Digest Sun, 03 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 184

In This Issue:
Re: F150 Fuel Problem - continued
Re: F150 Fuel Problem - continued
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ADMIN: New tech article
Check engine light
Re: fuel pump relay
ADMIN: Picture Gallery Additions
Re: Check engine light


From: "John S. Gaythorpe" <jsg>
Subject: Re: F150 Fuel Problem - continued
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:15:35 -0400

Thanks for hint about the shut-off - but I knew about that and was the first thing I tried. Tripped and reset it many times since.

(N.B. I lowered the truck, just my expression - dropped it.)

Of course NAPA does not carry the reservoir part, in fact they have not carried any parts I needed yet, pep-boys have been better.

Anyway back to the F150, 89 and no fuel.

I drilled out all the rusty bolts. Put the reservoir back after seeing if it worked, which it did. Installed the new high pressure fuel pump (Nasty piece to get in with the whole mounting piece.) Turned it over, no go.

Shook the reservoir seems empty.

Think the pumps just are not running. Tried shorting the EFI block, still no sounds. Checked the voltage at the shutoff switch under the drivers side footwell, 6+ volts. Think I have an electric problem, but where? Something shorted with the truck being on the jacks stands all that time?

Now to electric diagnosis...

Where next?


From: Nite4x
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:52:13 EDT
Subject: Re: F150 Fuel Problem - continued

In a message dated 9/3/00 08:13:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jsg

<< Now to electric diagnosis...

Where next? >>
just a q...  did you check the ground to the pump?  If you are not completing
the circut the pump won't run...



Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:02:50 -0700
Subject: that's all, folks
From: William G Berninghausen <berninghausen2>

Have to put the old Ford up for sale, folks.  Mom can't get in it any
more--the disability's getting worse--and she sure can't drive
it--vertical challenge is an additional complication.  Found a 93 Dakota
that fits her, with an auto tranny so she doesn't have to try to depress
the clutch and reach way out there for second gear.  And the 96 and
earlier Dakotas look a lot like the 80's Fords, for what that's worth.

Sorry to leave such a fine group of helpful and courteous folks,
especially since there doesn't seem to be a parallel Dakota group.  I
think I'll especially miss the news from down under--Les, down under the
world, as well as the gents down under the Mason-Dixon Line.

Be well, and take care of each other.

Bill in Portland
82 F100/300I6/3sp/2.47

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Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 13:25:37 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne>
Subject: ADMIN: New tech article

New tech article addition on the Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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First Generation Explorer High Performance Disk Rotor Installation
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From: "Jeff Fairbairn" <jfairbairn>
Subject: Check engine light
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:23:04 -0400

Has any had a problem with codes 172 and 175. My '96 F-150 302 V8 has these
codes coming up and I cannot find the problem. I changed the
plugs/wired/cap/rotor. They where bad so I replaced them. The light still
came on so I took it to the garage to hook it up to the scope. They gave me
the following codes. Test drove the truck and the light did not come on. I
picked the truck up and drove about 10 miles and it came on again. The said
it might be running lean so to replace the fuel filter. I replaced it but
the light still comes on. I noticed before it comes on the truck kind of
misses a bit.

'96 F-150 4x4 V8


From: "Jason Derra" <derrar>
Subject: Re: fuel pump relay
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:28:13 -0700

The EEC relay controls the fuel pump relay.  May be the EEC relay is bad.
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil" <imstobu>
To: <80-96-list>
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 12:47 PM
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: fuel pump relay

> >
> > I have been having problems with my fuel pump relay on my 91 F150. I had
> to replace it in march because it stayed on even with the truck off. It
> worked fine until the other day, the new one stayed on, when I hit the
> it shuts off. I replaced it with a new one and when I hooked up the
> it kicked the fuel pump on. I'm assuming the new relay is bad, but was
> wondering what is causing them to go bad so fast. Any suggestions?
> >
> I just took another look at the fuel pump relay, it is not the relay,
> something else is staying on and causes the relay to click on when the
> is off. Any suggestions on where to look, I'm at a loss at the moment.
> Phil Beattie
> 66 F100
> 70 F100
> 91 F150 4x4
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Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 18:43:04 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne>
Subject: ADMIN: Picture Gallery Additions

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From: FLR150
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:41:32 EDT
Subject: Re: Check engine light

In a message dated 9/4/00 5:25:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jfairbairn writes:

<< jfairbairn (Jeff Fairbairn) >>

I sent you a short rundown of the things to check from the codes you gave.
Contact me off list if you would like to buy one of the CDs like I used to
get that info.

Wayne Foy
NLOC #484
94 Flareside SC
#2 Top Truck
Atlanta GA


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