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80-96-list Digest Mon, 21 Aug 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 173

In This Issue:
Exhaust Systems.
Re: diesel engine stalling out
DIESEL ENGINE STALLING OUT
high flow cats
high flow cats
Battery size
Re: Battery size
Re: (No subject)To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Re: do we need this
Aerostar Tps

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:35:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael Pasznik Jr." <mjp hiway1.exit109.com>
Subject: Exhaust Systems.

Hey Everyone,

I just finished my exhaust job Friday afternoon, and with all the
questions coming up concerning high-flow cats, cat-back systems, etc, I
thought I'd chime in.  After 109,000 miles the original exhaust had had
it.  The truck's a '95 150 4x4 with the 302 and E4OD, and it was feeling
pretty sluggish.  After looking around for a while, and also discovering
that Borla made nothing for my truck (xcab short bed) I opted for a
Bassani complete system.  It came with all the gaskets, bolts, anti-seize,
etc, along with the equal length headers, new Y-pipe with a high-flow
catalytic converter built in, and cat-back system.  All stainless steel,
3" mandrel bent tubing, and they claim 44 horsepower and 64 lb/ft of torque
increases.
Anyway, the system went on really smoothly (aside from having to
move the tranny support out of the way to get the Y-pipe in place) and
used all the stock mounting points.  It also maintained all of the
emissions stuff, and even came with a piece of high-temp hose and clamps
to hook the new exhaust to the old (and now cut) pipe running to the smog
pump.  I thought it was a nice touch.
I'm extremely pleased with the performance increase.  Off the line
performance hasn't suffered in the least, and highway passing is far less
stressful. Since the whole system has been replaced, I can't pin down any
one particular item that gave the most results, but nothing in the kit
seemed to be a weak link.  The system as a whole was well worth the money
in my opinion.
As I see it, the only drawback is the noise.  While it sounds
great around town, it can be somewhat tiresome cruising at 65mph.
For anyone who's in the market, I'd highly recommend anything that
the company sells.  And you can order right from the web site:
www.bassani.com
For the record, I'm in no way affiliated with the company.  Just
a very satisfied (and impressed) customer.
Good luck out there.

-Mike



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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: diesel engine stalling out
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:35:54 -0700

There is a idle solenoid (for cold idle) as well as a fuel shutoff solenoid
that recieves 12V when the engine is running.  It may be losing power or the
solenoid may be failing.  My memory fails me to which one is which, but it
is one of them that connects on the top of the injection pump.  One should
be hooked to a solenoid contacting the throttle control and the other goes
into the pump itself.
Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD


----- Original Message -----
From: "Goodwin, Jerry" <Jerry.Goodwin GD-CS.COM>
To: <80-96-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 12:19 PM
Subject: [80-96-list] diesel engine stalling out


>
> Can anybody answer why this happens:
>
> Vehicle--F250 1991 with 5 speed.
>
> When shifting between gears or just pushing the clutch in and letting the
> engine go back to idle, the engine goes below idle and stops. It does not
do
> this everytime however. As long as i'm giving it fuel it runs OK.  It is
> like something is sticking in the roosamaster pump.
> Has anybody had this problem and know how to fix it??
>
> Thanks for replies.----Jerry
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From: WoodStck45 aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:22:14 EDT
Subject: DIESEL ENGINE STALLING OUT

I might have the answer to your truck stalling out.  If you have had you
injection pump rebuilt before, chances are that it is advanced a notch on the
timing gear for more power.  We did this to my dad's 94 (not a power stroke
or turbo diesel) and had the same problem.  His is an automatic though, but
when you'd be driving down the road and let of the throttle to stop at a
light or something, the damn thing would die.  Come to find out all we had to
do was idle it up about 100 or 200 rpms.  It still idle's less than 900
though.  Try adjusting the idle and see if that helps.  But, when you do this
you have to adjust the "high idle" for cold start ups too, or it will not
extend out far enough to work properly.

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From: WoodStck45 aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:34:46 EDT
Subject: high flow cats

What kind of wheel base does this truck have that you are installing the
high-flow cats on?  Ford used two different converters on the F250's and
F350's.  If it is an F-250 reg. cab long bed it will have a converter with
two air tubes going to it and true dual going to it and single coming out.
It bolts to a square plate with 4 bolts holding it.  if its an F-250 ex. cab,
or any F350 then it will have a cat with single exhaust going in and out and
a single air tube.  i have a 91 f-250 reg.cab long bed and it has the big ass
converter with true dual going in.  i took it to the muffler shop and had a
Y-pipe put behind the converter and dual straight pipes out the rear.  It
sounded pretty good , but just wasn't loud enough.  So i bought two hi-flow
cats out of Jeg's or Summit (one of the two) and cut the original one out and
put those two in its place.  MAN THAT THING SOUNDS GREAT NOW with true dual
straight pipes.  The air lines were a pain in the rear but i finally got em
hooked up.  Oh ya, one more thing make sure it is a good high flow cat, not a
cheapy.  I remember mine costing around $200 for both and were 400 cells per
square inch on the inside.

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From: WoodStck45 aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:35:06 EDT
Subject: high flow cats

What kind of wheel base does this truck have that you are installing the
high-flow cats on?  Ford used two different converters on the F250's and
F350's.  If it is an F-250 reg. cab long bed it will have a converter with
two air tubes going to it and true dual going to it and single coming out.
It bolts to a square plate with 4 bolts holding it.  if its an F-250 ex. cab,
or any F350 then it will have a cat with single exhaust going in and out and
a single air tube.  i have a 91 f-250 reg.cab long bed and it has the big ass
converter with true dual going in.  i took it to the muffler shop and had a
Y-pipe put behind the converter and dual straight pipes out the rear.  It
sounded pretty good , but just wasn't loud enough.  So i bought two hi-flow
cats out of Jeg's or Summit (one of the two) and cut the original one out and
put those two in its place.  MAN THAT THING SOUNDS GREAT NOW with true dual
straight pipes.  The air lines were a pain in the rear but i finally got em
hooked up.  Oh ya, one more thing make sure it is a good high flow cat, not a
cheapy.  I remember mine costing around $200 for both and were 400 cells per
square inch on the inside.

my 2 cents

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From: "Sam Means" <smeans inetport.com>
Subject: Battery size
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 06:44:49 -0500

I understand the desire to have the highest CCA you can buy in a battery,but
there is also a consideration for physical size. Such a  consideration had
never occurred to me until mentioned to me by a battery salesman for a
battery manufacturer. He said:" always get the largest (physically largest)
battery that can be made to fit in your vehicle which has sufficient
cranking power for the vehicle".
The size comes into play when recognizing that positive and negative charges
attract  each other. The more charge stored in a small box,the greater the
attraction forces and the stronger the box must be. Repeated
discharge-charge cycles flex the mechanical structure of the battery and it
is less likely to last out the warranty period because of structural
failure. So said the battery salesman.
Sam Means




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From: soffiler centraltools.com
Subject: Re: Battery size
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:17:09 -0400

> -----Original Message-----
>
>.... The more charge stored in a small
> box,the greater the
> attraction forces and the stronger the box must be. Repeated
> discharge-charge cycles flex the mechanical structure of the
> battery and it
> is less likely to last out the warranty period because of structural
> failure. So said the battery salesman....

Um, I'm struggling to swallow this one, and I'm just shy of running to my
college Physics text to do some calculations.  However I'm just too busy
here with real work.  Rather, I'll mention there exists a line of batteries
somewhere that is supposedly rated for "Light Truck/RV" duty, where they
claim a more robust housing construction.  NOT to counteract the forces of
attraction from the positive and negative charges, but rather, to better
survive the shock and impact loading that the typical stiffly-suspended
truck will encounter, especially in offroad situations.  Now THIS I can
believe.  Not sure which battery manufacturer(s) offer these but I'm sure
I've seen them.

Steve Offiler
soffiler centraltools.com
'97 F250HD XL 4x4, 351, E40D, 4.10's


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From: Lingus0169 aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:09:58 EDT
Subject: Re: (No subject)To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com

hey. i have done alittle thinking about theses brackets and evenutally
figured them out..
nick
82 351w 400hp
85 f150HD XL 4x4 T-18 NP-208 3.55's in dana 44, ford 8.8"

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From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:40:59 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: do we need this

guys, i was about to speak up about this but someone beat me to it.  i
don't like it at all, BUT, if it means a couple of extra minutes to
browse through stuff so that Ken can get some much needed extra help
then i'm all for it.  this list/site has to be one of the most informing
and friendly around.  i'm on many Cavalier mail lists because of my race
car and i can say that none of them is anywhere near the scope that this
list is on.  no i don't like it, but if it means more good info in the
future then more power to you Ken!  i support it 100%.

David
85 F-150 300 I6 C-4 3 speed auto
91 Cavalier RS <-- autocross car


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From: "Nelson Vasconcelos" <NelsonV mediaone.net>
Subject: Aerostar Tps
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:38:08 -0400

Hi,
   I need to know the procedure for checking out the throttle position
sensor on a 93' Aerostar with a 3.0L V6.

Thanks

Nelson


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