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From: owner-80-96-list-digest  ford-trucks.com (80-96-list-digest) To: 80-96-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: 80-96-list-digest V4 #13 Reply-To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-80-96-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-80-96-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk 80-96-list-digest Saturday, January 15 2000 Volume 04 : Number 013 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980-1996 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 80-96-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 80-96 - limited slip question/dual exhaust comment FTE 80-96 - Am I covered in the dual tank "recall" FTE 80-96 - Convert 2WD to 4WD RE: FTE 80-96 - help! RE: FTE 80-96 - help! Re: FTE 80-96 - Convert 2WD to 4WD Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers Re: FTE 80-96 - DI propane? FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers Re: FTE 80-96 - Convert 2WD to 4WD Re: FTE 80-96 - DI propane? Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? FTE 80-96 - Underheating? FTE 80-96 - Torsen Differential Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? Re: FTE 80-96 - Underheating? Re: FTE 80-96 - Underheating? Re: FTE 80-96 - Underheating? Re: FTE 80-96 - Torsen Differential Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? Re: FTE 80-96 - Underheating? Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? RE: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not ? Re: FTE 80-96 - help! ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:23:44 -0600 From: BAH NWC.EDU Subject: FTE 80-96 - limited slip question/dual exhaust comment With the discussion on limited slips...has anyone had experience with the new Detroit "gearless" locker? It looks interesting, but I haven't heard any reports from the real-world. I'm just looking for increased (winter) rear axle traction...don't do hard core off-roading, don't need the ultimate pull (or want the noise and racheting) of the original Detroit locker, or the Lock-Rite and E-Z locker drop-ins. Have also heard good things about the Auburn cone-style clutch limited slip diff (like the earlier post). Re: dual exhaust, I'm running a "Heart Throb" system. Y-pipe from the cat back to glass-pack style stainless tips. It REALLY sounds nice...a little louder than stock (my wife would say a lot louder), no bark or snap, just a beautiful deep rumble. Bruce Hanson '86 F-150 Apple Valley, MN == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:44:14 +0500 From: "James" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Am I covered in the dual tank "recall" Ken, You could call the NHTSA "hotline" and let them know you have a problem. It seems like they may widen the "recall" if they get enough complaints; the # is 800-424-9393 HTH, James Hiers > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:50:05 -0500 (EST) > From: Ken Woods > Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Am I covered by the dual tank "recall" > > Yup, been there, done that. > > They say that I'm not covered. > > Seems rather strange to me. > Ford recognizes that there is a problem. > I have all the symptoms of said problem. > Yet, I'm not covered. > > Suggestions? > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:56:25 +0500 From: "James" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Convert 2WD to 4WD Hi Guys, I have a 1989 F150 2WD with the 300 six and mazda 5 speed. I found an 83 4x4 with a 4 speed and 300 sixt. So how much different is the 89 2WD chassis from the 83 4WD chassis? Would the 4WD components "bolt up" to the 2WD frame or is fabrication work involved? Another avenue I've considered is to find a 70's straight axle 4x4 and use that as a donor to convert my 2WD; I understand that this approach would be much more involved. So what do you guys think? Thanks, James Hiers == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:27:24 -0800 From: Eric Sneed Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - help! I had a similar experience with an Escort last summer. That vehicle however did not have a tilt wheel, so it took about three hours to finish the job. My truck is a floor shifted manual, so I hope that might save me some time. Thanks again to everyone for all of the great info! Eric S 89 F150 -----Original Message----- From: Harris, Scott [SMTP:SHarris dfwairport.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 8:35 PM To: '80-96-list ford-trucks.com' Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - help! The part that breaks is connected with that rod up by the key tumbler. It's actually a odd-shaped linkeage that interconnects the shifter lock, steering lock and ignition switch. If it is like my 85, look around where the tumbler is and there is a little hole with a recessed pin. Stick something pointed in there with the key in the "on" position and your entire tumbler "should" pull right out. If the tumbler ass'y has the little tab that moves the linkeage attached its the interlock that is broken, just fish the broken piece out. If the tumbler is in good shape, get ready.....disassemble your steering column from the wheel down to the shifter and I do mean disassemble! I have a tilt wheel and I spent about 6 hours replacing the broken piece. Actually I didn't know what was broken at first, I just started taking it apart. The replacement was I think about $12 at Ford and it is a common failure because the parts guy just reached in a drawer and tossed it to me. I had to drop the column from the instrument panel to get to all the nuts and bolts. You also have to work on the bottom side of the shifter, it has 3 allen bolts that hold the shifter ass'y onto the column. When reassembling run through the shift ranges to make sure that everything is working before having to go back in. Also while you are there and you have a tilt wheel check the hinge points for the tilt. Mine was out on one side and I didn't even realize it. Mine works great now but do better than me.....I had only 2-3 extra pieces left over! Scott Harris '85 F150SC -----Original Message----- From: Michael D. Mitchell [mailto:mdm peppersnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 7:18 PM To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - help! ESneed reil.com wrote about his broken ignition actuator switch. Talk about timely! The same thing happened to me yesterday on my '88 F-250. Key spins way around and no start. My steering column is already busted up since someone stole the truck before I bought it (I didn't buy it from the thieves!) and I found the rod that runs down the steering column but pushing it doesn't do any more than turning the key. Mine will still turn to the On position though. Haven't tried hotwiring it yet. I've got some questions though. Where is the part that breaks? At the end of that rod? How to get to it? Probably more importantly in my case, since I need to replace the steering column anyway, wouldn't this be part of the package? Since I live in a remote part of the Southwest Texas Badlands, my local mechanic can't seem to find a used steering column for me. Anyone out there have one for a reasonable price? Maybe even in San Antonio (I don't know if shipping costs would be practical for this). This is an '88 F-250 with 5 speed standard tranny. Thanks a bunch. Great list! Mike Mitchell Uvalde, TX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:49:45 -0600 From: Andy Norris Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - help! >Also while you are there and you have a tilt wheel check the hinge points >for the tilt. Mine was out on one >side and I didn't even realize it. I have a little wiggle in my steering wheel. It's a tilt column. I wonder if the hinge points you're referring to might be what's going on? Andy == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:06:40 EST From: Lingus0169 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Convert 2WD to 4WD wel from the trucks i looked at...4x4 and 2x4 , to get my 351w, for my swap, the frames are the same, at least up front, ..i'd like to be informed on if your gonna do it..see how it goes nick 85 f150 4x4 351w 4spd == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:17:36 EST From: Lingus0169 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers well for my truck, im gonna go full length headers then glaspacks then straight pipes out the side, for now at least..it will be loud but thats what i want until i get a new exhuast system from flowmaster. and for the cops, does anyine know how much they'll ticket you for no cats....no cops around me have a desable (sp?) reader so they cant get you for too laud exhuast. at least for now anyway. i live in mohrsville pennsylvannia. in the country, == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:06:21 -0800 From: Chris McKinnon Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - DI propane? >Hi Chris, >Please pardon my ignorance, but what's a DI head ? And what are you trying to >accomplish - more details, Please. >If it's what I think you mean, it already been done - how many do you want? > >One of the wonderful things about the Auto Industry, there is no such thing as a >crazy idea, just ideas that don't quite work the way you expected!! It doesn't >matter how hairbrained and left of field it may sound to you, someone, >somewhere, has, or is trying it !!! > DI or direct injection where the fuel is added directly to the cylinder just prior to the spark. This is the same (almost) system that diesels use. The differance bieng in the diesel there is no spark... A DI head would have an extra hole in each combustion chamber for the injector. I'm not sure if there is space in the head for an injector or if it would come out somewhere under the rockers. The idea behind DI is that compression ratios canbe higher without any pre-detonation problems, not to mention that the engine computer can really control the mixture based on driving habits. Chris '84 F150 351W on propane NP 435 NP 208 284K Km == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:36:39 -0500 From: Blake Malkamaki Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? How can I test my fan clutch? My original's bearings went bad on my 88 F-150/302 so I replaced it with one from AutoZone. Everything seemed to be fine and it cooled ok until driving with my snowplow on this winter. Snowplows are notorious for overheating due to blocking airflow to radiators. But last winter, with the old fan clutch, I never had any heating problem. Last week I even made a scoop out of part of a bug shield to direct air right down into my grill. This helped some, but I still think my fan just does not want to grab ahold and pull some air. Can you guys tell when your fan clutch locks up? At what temperature should it? The fan clutch on our diesel Ford locks up whenever the temperature gauge reaches about 1/3 of the way up the scale, then unlocks when the gauge drops a few degrees. When it locks up you can hear it roar and it puts a pretty good load on the engine. The fan clutch on my F-150/302 never makes any noise or creates any perceivable load. So is it not working right? Thanks. Blake Little Mountain Concord, Ohio Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake "Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed." "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:24:47 -0500 From: Blake Malkamaki Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers >well for my truck, im gonna go full length headers then glaspacks then >straight pipes out the side, for now at least..it will be loud but thats what >i want until i get a new exhuast system from flowmaster. and for the cops, >does anyine know how much they'll ticket you for no cats....no cops around me >have a desable (sp?) reader so they cant get you for too laud exhuast. at >least for now anyway. i live in mohrsville pennsylvannia. in the country, I don't think cops generally care about cats. That is usually the EPA or some other environmental extremist gestapo group. If you don't live in an area that requires emmissions testing, then I doubt anyone would care if you have them on or off. Don't ask any professional shop to take them off for you because it is illegal for them to do it. Blake Little Mountain Concord, Ohio Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake "Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed." "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:21:34 -0500 From: Blake Malkamaki Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Convert 2WD to 4WD >Hi Guys, > >I have a 1989 F150 2WD with the 300 six and mazda 5 speed. I found >an 83 4x4 with a 4 speed and 300 sixt. So how much different is the >89 2WD chassis from the 83 4WD chassis? Would the 4WD components >"bolt up" to the 2WD frame or is fabrication work involved? > >Another avenue I've considered is to find a 70's straight axle 4x4 >and use that as a donor to convert my 2WD; I understand that this >approach would be much more involved. > Do the 70s straight axle one. Even Ford learned that straight axle is the way to go. Have someone that's good make a video of the whole process. Then you can sell the tapes. Blake Little Mountain Concord, Ohio Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake "Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed." "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:40:20 -0500 From: Blake Malkamaki Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - DI propane? >DI or direct injection where the fuel is added directly to the cylinder just >prior to the spark. This is the same (almost) system that diesels use. The >differance bieng in the diesel there is no spark... A DI head would have an >extra hole in each combustion chamber for the injector. I'm not sure if >there is space in the head for an injector or if it would come out somewhere >under the rockers. The idea behind DI is that compression ratios canbe >higher without any pre-detonation problems, not to mention that the engine >computer can really control the mixture based on driving habits. 300SL Mercedes sports cars had direct injection in the 50s. Blake Little Mountain Concord, Ohio Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake "Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed." "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:05:35 -0800 From: Bob Kennedy Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? Blake Malkamaki wrote: > snip. > > The fan clutch on my F-150/302 never makes any noise or creates any > perceivable load. So is it not working right? > > Thanks. > > Blake > Little Mountain > Concord, Ohio > Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake > "Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed." > "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...." > > Turn the fan with the engine cold, then run the engine to operating temperature. Shut it off and turn the fan again, there should be a noticeable difference. The fan clutch should make it harder to turn. Good Luck. Bob == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:50:31 -0500 From: S Spaulding Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? Blake, I've been through the bad-clutch-with the plow routine. It would be fine at low speeds while plowing, but between jobs, over 20MPH or so, it would overheat. After I replaced the clutch, you could definitely hear a change in the roar of the fan as it heated up. Steve == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:48:17 -0800 From: Chris McKinnon Subject: FTE 80-96 - Underheating? The recent talk of overheating reminded me of my current problem. Right now my truck is "underheating" ie not moving far above C on the temp gauge and not getting much warm air from the heater. What could cause this? I'd like to fix this problem because this rolling fridge thing is getting old. And yes my cooling system is full. Chris '84 F150 351W on propane NP 435 NP 208 284K Km == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:05:44 -0800 From: "Mark Behling" Subject: FTE 80-96 - Torsen Differential Looks like there has been allot of discussion lately about Limited Slip Diffs and have been in the market for one as well. The best source I've found so far for them, believe it or not is the Ford SVO catalog. Which unfortunately isn't available on line, but there is some dealer in Texas who has an on-line SVO P/N and price list at: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://oemfordparts.com/partslist.asp?CategoryID=40 From the catalog Ford offers 4 different types of LS Diffs for the 8.8" axle: Auburn Diff 8.8 M-4204-A31 Trak-Lok Diff 8.8 M-4204-F318 Aub Pro Diff 8.8 M-4204-P31 Torsen Diff 8.8 M-4204-T31 After reading Matt's Email concerning the Trak-Lok and that you have really gas it to get it to work. I don't think it will work for me, as I need something that will work in slick conditions using a light throttle. According to the SVO Catalog, it states the Torsen Diff is the finest Diff made. So I did a search on the internet to find out more, and found some info at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.zhome.com/ZCMnL/tech/Torsen/Torsen.htm (which is actually way too much info on the unit) Anyhow, right now I'm deciding between the Auburn or Torsen and was wondering if anyone out there had any experience with the Torsen unit? Mark '96 F150 I6 5sp San Diego, CA >Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:55:31 -0500 >From: Blake Malkamaki >Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs > >>I was unaware that Ford put Limited Slip diffs in the front from the >>factory. I knew they used to in the 70's but the '80's & '90's? Auburn >>gear makes a great replacement limited slip. I had one in my '89 GT > >Mine is an 88 and has factory front limited slip. Not sure if you can still >order it, but I don't know why not. > >Blake >Little Mountain >Concord, Ohio >Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake >"Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed." >"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...." > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:15:42 -0500 From: Blake Malkamaki Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? >Blake, > >I've been through the bad-clutch-with the plow routine. It would be >fine at low speeds while plowing, but between jobs, over 20MPH or so, it >would overheat. After I replaced the clutch, you could definitely hear >a change in the roar of the fan as it heated up. > >Steve It sounds like my clutch is no good. AutoZone said it has a lifetime guarantee and they would replace it or give my money back - whichever I want. I think I will try Bob's advice too and see how the fan turns after running my truck with the plow on and the temperarture gauge up. If I take it back, is there a better brand to buy? Blake Little Mountain Concord, Ohio Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake "Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed." "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:18:01 -0500 From: Blake Malkamaki Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Underheating? >The recent talk of overheating reminded me of my current problem. Right now >my truck is "underheating" ie not moving far above C on the temp gauge and >not getting much warm air from the heater. What could cause this? I'd like >to fix this problem because this rolling fridge thing is getting old. And >yes my cooling system is full. >Chris >'84 F150 >351W on propane >NP 435 >NP 208 >284K Km > It sounds like you need a new thermostat. Blake Little Mountain Concord, Ohio Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake "Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed." "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 22:08:41 -0600 From: Jim Cannon Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Underheating? Most likely thermostat stuck (failed) open. At 19:48 14/01/00 -0800, you wrote: >The recent talk of overheating reminded me of my current problem. Right now >my truck is "underheating" ie not moving far above C on the temp gauge and >not getting much warm air from the heater. What could cause this? Jim Cannon Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech '29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!" '80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:30:35 -0500 From: S Spaulding Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Underheating? Most likely, either the thermostat is sticking open, or it is a low temperature thermostat. Chris McKinnon wrote: > > The recent talk of overheating reminded me of my current problem. Right now > my truck is "underheating" ie not moving far above C on the temp gauge and > not getting much warm air from the heater. What could cause this? I'd like > to fix this problem because this rolling fridge thing is getting old. And > yes my cooling system is full. > Chris > '84 F150 > 351W on propane > NP 435 > NP 208 > 284K Km > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:21:24 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Woods Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Torsen Differential Get an ARB, and be done with it. On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Mark Behling wrote: > Looks like there has been allot of discussion lately about Limited > Slip Diffs - -- Ken Woods kwoods kens.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:42:49 -0600 From: "Dennis Thompson" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? If your vehicle overheats, and you have any doubt... replace it. They're not that expensive. SPECTRE == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:07:55 -0500 From: Blake Malkamaki Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? >If your vehicle overheats, and you have any doubt... >replace it. >They're not that expensive. > >SPECTRE The problem is... this one is brand new. I want to know if it is working or not before I replace it. And if this new one is not working, I want to replace it with a better made one that will work. Blake Little Mountain Concord, Ohio Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake "Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed." "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:08:26 -0600 From: "Mike Persell" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Underheating? Propane burns cooler and requires a cooler thermostat. Mike Persell '85 F150 Stepside - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Cannon To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com <80-96-list ford-trucks.com> Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 10:24 PM Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Underheating? >Most likely thermostat stuck (failed) open. > >At 19:48 14/01/00 -0800, you wrote: >>The recent talk of overheating reminded me of my current problem. Right now >>my truck is "underheating" ie not moving far above C on the temp gauge and >>not getting much warm air from the heater. What could cause this? > > >Jim Cannon >Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech >'29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!" >'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8 >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:09:47 EST From: FULSZBRONC aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? << It sounds like my clutch is no good. AutoZone said it has a lifetime guarantee and they would replace it or give my money back - whichever I want. I think I will try Bob's advice too and see how the fan turns after running my truck with the plow on and the temperarture gauge up. If I take it back, is there a better brand to buy? >> You can save $$ at discount parts houses on lots of things like oil, filters, spark plugs and chemicals, but when it comes to the hard parts like fan clutches, in-tank fuel pumps, off-brand brake components, rebuilt starters and alternators, clutches etc., I prefer to use either dealer stock or CarQuest / NAPA depending on what it is..... lifetime warranty on parts doesn't mean s**t if I spend my lifetime taking them off, hauling them back just to re-install them for free. I guess doing it for a living has taken some the joy out of skinning my knuckles. ;)~To make a short story long (sorry), my best advise to would be to either get a name-brand fan clutch (from Ford - less than $60 for heavy duty) or consider going to electric fans....I've been running them for years and love the many advantages, and can't think of even one disadvantage. (I've got a really neat way to control them that is tidier and more dependable than the control kits that are available) Alex == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:14:30 EST From: FULSZBRONC aol.comSubject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? << The problem is... this one is brand new. I want to know if it is working or not before I replace it. And if this new one is not working, I want to replace it with a better made one that will work. >> BTW, the ''roar test'' when the engine is hot is a valid test to see if the fan clutch is operational...... know what I mean? Alex == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:22:06 -0500 From: Jarl Skogsholm Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not ? Use boiling water and a thermometer to test your thermostat. - -----Original Message----- From: Blake Malkamaki [mailto:blake little-mountain.com]Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 12:08 AM To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.comSubject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fan clutches: how to tell if they are good or not? >If your vehicle overheats, and you have any doubt... >replace it. >They're not that expensive. > >SPECTRE The problem is... this one is brand new. I want to know if it is working or not before I replace it. And if this new one is not working, I want to replace it with a better made one that will work. Blake Little Mountain Concord, Ohio Early Oil Well Historian http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/oilwell http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake "Society is safest when the criminals don't know who's armed." "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject...." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:13:53 -0600 From: "DannyF" Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - help! > > ESneed reil.com wrote about his broken ignition actuator switch. Talk> about > timely! The same thing happened to me yesterday on my '88 F-250. Key spins > way around and no start. > My steering column is already busted up since someone stole the truck > before I bought it (I didn't buy it from the thieves!) and I found the rod > that runs down the steering column but pushing it doesn't do any more than > turning the key. Mine will still turn to the On position though. Haven't > tried hotwiring it yet. > I've got some questions though. Where is the part that breaks? At the > end > of that rod? How to get to it? Probably more importantly in my case, since > I need to replace the steering column anyway, wouldn't this be part of the > package? > Since I live in a remote part of the Southwest Texas Badlands, my local > mechanic can't seem to find a used steering column for me. Anyone out > there > have one for a reasonable price? Maybe even in San Antonio (I don't know > if > shipping costs would be practical for this). This is an '88 F-250 with 5 > speed standard tranny. > > Thanks a bunch. Great list! > Mike Mitchell > Uvalde, TX San Antonio is full of wrecked late 80's, 90,s F-150/F250s. You'll have to check w/them on shipping. But if you can get there, most of them will pull it and have it ready for you. And on the SW part of the city too. Heres some places that will have the column, all on New Laredo Hwy: Brothers-210-924-8591 Drive In Truck Salvage-210-924-6551 National Truck Salvage 210-623-2000 Danny fitz011 ev1.net== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of 80-96-list-digest V4 #13 ******************************* +---- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1980 through 1996 Trucks And Vans -----+ | Send posts to 80-96-list ford-trucks.com, || List removal information is on the web site. | +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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