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In this issue:

RE: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs
RE: FTE 80-96 - help!
FTE 80-96 - Am I covered by the dual tank "recall"
Re: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs
FTE 80-96 - Airlift Air Bags
Re: FTE 80-96 - Am I covered by the dual tank "recall"
RE: FTE 80-96 - Airlift Air Bags
FTE 80-96 - Re - Front LSDs
Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers
RE: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs
Re: FTE 80-96 - Airlift Air Bags
FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs
Re: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs
Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers
Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers
FTE 80-96 - Straight Pipes out of the Rear???
Re: FTE 80-96 - Straight Pipes out of the Rear???
FTE 80-96 - Headers
Re: FTE 80-96 - help!
FTE 80-96 - DI propane?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Airlift Air Bags
RE: FTE 80-96 - help!
FTE 80-96 - another exhaust tip
FTE 80-96 - Ign. actuator replace .instructions
Re: FTE 80-96 - DI propane?
Re: FTE 80-96 - DI propane?

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:03:09 -0500
From: "Chapman, David P" unisys.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs

My 95 F150 (that I've since sold for my 95 Bronco) was ordered with the
limited slip front and rear. It's kind weird steering it with the front
hubs locked. The limited slip creates more force to center the wheel so you
have to steer a little harder. It also reduces the turning diameter a
little. Add that to the extra cab length and it took extra work to park it
and make tight corners. But it was a great truck.

Hey - has anyone heard of OK Auto, 4wd & Tire in New Jersey. Supposed to be
a great 4wd shop and accessories. I'm going to take the Bronco there to
have the wandering front-end checked out. Probably sometime in the next
week or so. Talked to them on the phone and they seemed knowledgeable.

Dave
95 Bronco

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From: Joe [mailto:jeeps angelfire.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 6:15 PM
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Subject: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs


I was unaware that Ford put Limited Slip diffs in the front from the
factory. I knew they used to in the 70's but the '80's & '90's? Auburn gear
makes a great replacement limited slip. I had one in my '89 GT stang, and
have one in my '89 ranger. Works super! You can also rebuild the factory
l.s. and add and extra clutch plate. This preloads it more, so it takes more
torque before it slips.
My 2 cents...
Joe
'89 ranger 4X4
'89 F350 460 4X4
'96 E.b. Bronco *4SALE*
'93 Corvette


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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:17:38 +0600
From: "Michael D. Mitchell" peppersnet.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - help!

ESneed reil.com wrote about his broken ignition actuator switch. Talk about
timely! The same thing happened to me yesterday on my '88 F-250. Key spins
way around and no start.
My steering column is already busted up since someone stole the truck
before I bought it (I didn't buy it from the thieves!) and I found the rod
that runs down the steering column but pushing it doesn't do any more than
turning the key. Mine will still turn to the On position though. Haven't
tried hotwiring it yet.
I've got some questions though. Where is the part that breaks? At the end
of that rod? How to get to it? Probably more importantly in my case, since
I need to replace the steering column anyway, wouldn't this be part of the
package?
Since I live in a remote part of the Southwest Texas Badlands, my local
mechanic can't seem to find a used steering column for me. Anyone out there
have one for a reasonable price? Maybe even in San Antonio (I don't know if
shipping costs would be practical for this). This is an '88 F-250 with 5
speed standard tranny.

Thanks a bunch. Great list!
Mike Mitchell
Uvalde, TX


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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:17:14 +0500
From: "James" colstate.edu>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Am I covered by the dual tank "recall"

Ken,

Here is the Ford hotline to find out if your truck is covered:

1-800-392-3673 and you'll need your VIN #

HTH,
James H.


> > FWIW, I'm also having problems with the dual tanks on my 1989 F150.
>
> As am I, but I'm in a 250.
>
> Now, here's the best part.
>
> Ford says, yes, there's a problem, yes, you have all the symptoms on the
> problem. No, your truck is not covered.
>
> When pushed, they say that the check valve problem only covered _some_
> trucks, and not mine.
>
> My truck is doing exactly what the recall says is wrong.
> - --
> Ken Woods
> kwoods kens.com
>



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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:07:40 -0500
From: James Oxley thecore.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs

Chapman, David P wrote:
>
> My 95 F150 (that I've since sold for my 95 Bronco) was ordered with the
> limited slip front and rear. It's kind weird steering it with the front
> hubs locked. The limited slip creates more force to center the wheel so you
> have to steer a little harder. It also reduces the turning diameter a
> little. Add that to the extra cab length and it took extra work to park it
> and make tight corners. But it was a great truck.
>
> Hey - has anyone heard of OK Auto, 4wd & Tire in New Jersey. Supposed to be
> a great 4wd shop and accessories.

Where are they??

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:30:33 -0600
From: Steve Randa ch-advertising.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Airlift Air Bags

Has anyone on the list installed airbags for additional load assist.
I've got a set and am clueless where I'm going to mount the compressor.
Instructions say to mount it away from the elements. I've got a SuperCab
so behind the drivers seat is not an option and it's too tall to fit
under the rear seat. The engine compartment is cluttered enough. So, I'm
thinking about putting in in the bed ahead of the rear wheels and build
a small box for it. Sure would like to hear someone else's experience or
opinion. :)

Steve Randa
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:50:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Woods kens.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Am I covered by the dual tank "recall"

Yup, been there, done that.

They say that I'm not covered.

Seems rather strange to me.
Ford recognizes that there is a problem.
I have all the symptoms of said problem.
Yet, I'm not covered.

Suggestions?


On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, James wrote:

> Ken,
>
> Here is the Ford hotline to find out if your truck is covered:
>
> 1-800-392-3673 and you'll need your VIN #
>
> HTH,
> James H.
>
>
> > > FWIW, I'm also having problems with the dual tanks on my 1989 F150.
> >
> > As am I, but I'm in a 250.
> >
> > Now, here's the best part.
> >
> > Ford says, yes, there's a problem, yes, you have all the symptoms on the
> > problem. No, your truck is not covered.
> >
> > When pushed, they say that the check valve problem only covered _some_
> > trucks, and not mine.
> >
> > My truck is doing exactly what the recall says is wrong.
> > - --
> > Ken Woods
> > kwoods kens.com
> >
>
>
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- --
Ken Woods
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:50:55 -0500
From: "Michael R. Dunbar" vtc.vsc.edu>
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Airlift Air Bags

Typically, you will want to install the compressor to the inside of one of
the frame rails under the bed. As soon as summer comes around again, I'm
going to be installing airbags in all four corners, replacing my coils and
leaf springs as my suspension. So, while I wait and , I've been looking
into the process for a while, seeing what I have to go through. From what
I've learned, you bolt the compressor and reserve air tank inline with each
other, making sure you have enough clearance from any major components such
as your drive shaft, make sure the air hoses don't touch the exhaust, etc.
Attempting to run the compressor in the cab of your truck would be a
headache waiting to happen, as it would kick in periodically, and since
they're not too quiet, you would wish you hadn't or perhaps look into buying
stock in Tylenol. Under the hood would also be a mistake as it typically is
cluttered and you would have to run 15 feet or so of hose, and also take
into consideration that the engine compartment and components generally get
very hot, thus risking burning holes in the hoses. Hope this helped
somewhat. Good luck

Mike Dunbar
89 F-150 XLT Lariat
White River Jct., Vermont

"Just remember, the wheel's spinning but the hamster's dead"

Pet Peeve of a Goldfish:
"Just because I have a three-second memory, they don't think I'll mind
eating the same fish flakes ... Oh boy! Fish flakes!"


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Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 10:31 AM
To: FTE 80-96
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Airlift Air Bags


Has anyone on the list installed airbags for additional load assist.
I've got a set and am clueless where I'm going to mount the compressor.
Instructions say to mount it away from the elements. I've got a SuperCab
so behind the drivers seat is not an option and it's too tall to fit
under the rear seat. The engine compartment is cluttered enough. So, I'm
thinking about putting in in the bed ahead of the rear wheels and build
a small box for it. Sure would like to hear someone else's experience or
opinion. :)

Steve Randa
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:15:19 -0800
From: Nathaniel Ingersoll packetengines.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re - Front LSDs

>I was unaware that Ford put Limited Slip diffs in the front from the
>factory. I knew they used to in the 70's but the '80's & '90's? Auburn
>gear makes a great replacement limited slip. I had one in my '89 GT

Mine sure feels like it has one; when you're "out" of 4wd, but haven't
backed it up yet [auto-lock hubs], the steering is pretty funky until you do
get the hubs disengaged. Then again, praps I just don't know what I'm
talking about, but it certainly does seem like the diff is interfering.

N
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:27:37 -0800
From: John Jensen - Ericsson ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers

DK....

I just purchased a GIbson header. Basically a revamped Thorley.

When you buy headers, you usually get what you pay for. I've had to
warranty headers over and over because I bought cheap. And the worst part
is, to warranty a header I had to take it off. And that's a pain!

And be careful on the CATless system. It's a major fine. Wouldn't want to
upset the folks on this list (mind you I have, and they may take this and
say your going to kill the wildlife or create too much smog or start a
fire. Let alone get a ticket for "no CAT".)

Either way, I like my truck "throaty". And headers do do the trick. But
ya.. they do bring a resonance into the cab. Even from the header itself
and the exhaust pinging off the tubes of the header. But hey... you like it
loud. RUN IT!

See ya,
John

At 05:36 PM 1/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Sorry about not saying anything in awhile but i had to go to chicago to see
>my aunt & uncle's new baby. (he was getting baptized)Anyway. .
>to Lingus-
> i saw 351 headers in the JEGs mag i got. under $100 dynomax ones. there
>are LOTS of different header/exhaust products in the aftermarket mags like
>JEGs, SUMMIT, JC WHITNEY, and the like. i was going to go true duals with
>flowmasters but decided against it because that would be an additional $110+
>and shipping. So i'm just going to get it straight-piped instead.
>to Blake-
> I was planning on running it straight out the back from the headers with
>an h-pipe probably. no cats or mufflers. loud? i would think, but me being a
>17 year old and all, loud exhuast is still cool to me. I have a friend with
>a dual exhaust(not true duals i'm pretty sure) straight piped dodge. I heard
>before and after he took off the cat and wow. it sounds great. never rode
>inside though to see the interior resonance of it, but outside it sounds
>great.
>
>I'd like to get some Thorly headers but the price is a little out of my
>range. I haven't heard a bad thing about them so maybe if my "cheapie"
>Dynomax headers don't work i'll get a pair of Thorlys.
>
>thanks for the exhaust info i got and thanks for listenin to my ramblins.
>
>DK
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:34:36 -0500
From: "Chapman, David P" unisys.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs

Their Web site is:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ok4wd.com/

their address is:
2621 State Route 57
Stewartsville, NJ 08886

and their phone number is:
(908) 454-6973

Dave


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From: James Oxley [mailto:luxjo thecore.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 10:08 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs


Chapman, David P wrote:
>
> My 95 F150 (that I've since sold for my 95 Bronco) was ordered with the
> limited slip front and rear. It's kind weird steering it with the front
> hubs locked. The limited slip creates more force to center the wheel so
you
> have to steer a little harder. It also reduces the turning diameter a
> little. Add that to the extra cab length and it took extra work to park
it
> and make tight corners. But it was a great truck.
>
> Hey - has anyone heard of OK Auto, 4wd & Tire in New Jersey. Supposed to
be
> a great 4wd shop and accessories.

Where are they??

OX
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:38:47 -0800
From: John Jensen - Ericsson ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Airlift Air Bags

Steve...

I have these on the front and rear of my 2x F350. My trucks lowered about 5
and 5 so I needed the extra support.

If your concerned with noise, keep that noisy little compressor out of the
cab! And you can mount it in the framerail under the truck. It works well
there. Mine is in my bed, under the carpet kit. I can still here it when I
air up or it drops below 10psi.

I simply love the little bags I have. My truck is useless without them. I
tow a tongue trailer (not a 5th wheel) that has a hitch weight of about 800
lbs. And with only a few inches of down travel, I air up to about 30psi
(max pressure is 100psi) and run it all day. I never bottom out and the
truck rides a little firm, but controllable. Actually keeps it from swaying
somewhat with the added support.

But ya.. sorry for going on and on... but mount that thing under the truck.
You can even mount it upside down under the bed. It's not really
recommended, but you can do it. It's not too prone to weather, unless you
live by the beach. So I think you'll do alright.

Hope that helps,
John


At 09:30 AM 1/13/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Has anyone on the list installed airbags for additional load assist.
>I've got a set and am clueless where I'm going to mount the compressor.
>Instructions say to mount it away from the elements. I've got a SuperCab
>so behind the drivers seat is not an option and it's too tall to fit
>under the rear seat. The engine compartment is cluttered enough. So, I'm
>thinking about putting in in the bed ahead of the rear wheels and build
>a small box for it. Sure would like to hear someone else's experience or
>opinion. :)
>
>Steve Randa
>'84 F150
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:27:35 -0700
From: Fred Moreno dualcurve.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs

'Ello All,

My '95 F-150, 4X4, 302, 5 slotted manual tranny (No Les, not what you're
thinking!) has front and rear Limited Slip differentials from the factory.
Each axle housing or has "LS" in the model/partnumber stamping.
These are great. Has better performance off-roading than the '85 Nissan I
use to own, but of course there's a big difference betweent the two trucks,
so let's not go there...
I love when you can 'feel' the strenght of the front differential pulling
you and working with the rear differential to get you through some mess
(while I'm making deals with God - "...okay God, get me outa here safely and
I'll start behaving right after this one!!!").

While on the subject, Joe (in Angelfire, NM? Hello neighor?) writes;

You can also rebuild the factory l.s. and add and extra clutch
plate. This preloads it more, so it takes more torque before it slips.

Have you done this yourself? Is there a need for specialized tools? An all
week-end job or 15 minutes? Did you experience a significant improvement
off-roading? Source for the clutch plate? I am interested. This inquiring
mind wants to know more please. TIA.

Phred
La Union NM



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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:37:01 -0500
From: "Matt Fitzsimmons" idirect.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs

>
> My '95 F-150, 4X4, 302, 5 slotted manual tranny (No Les, not what you're
> thinking!) has front and rear Limited Slip differentials from the factory.
> Each axle housing or has "LS" in the model/partnumber stamping.

I worked at the Oakville truck plant during '92 & '93. We installed Limited
Slip front diffs in F150, only manual hubs, only 3.55 gears.
There were all sorts of different front axles on the line, but this was the
only combination with L.S.


> You can also rebuild the factory l.s. and add and extra clutch
> plate. This preloads it more, so it takes more torque before it slips.
>
> Have you done this yourself? Is there a need for specialized tools? An all
> week-end job or 15 minutes? Did you experience a significant improvement
> off-roading? Source for the clutch plate? I am interested. This inquiring
> mind wants to know more please. TIA.
>
> Phred
> La Union NM

I've rebuilt a few 8.8 limited slip rear axles, I've never been able to get
any more plates in there than came in the kit. There is only so much room
between the side housing and the spider. I one case we got a shim plate in
(on each side), but it was only about .030 thick. There used to be a
difference between the springs for the trucks and cars, we installed the
truck spring, it had a little more pre-load.

You can count on spending a few hours at this job. While you're at it, you
might think about changing the axle seals and the diff cross pin. Get a pin
retainer bolt as well, they always seem to break. This a much easier job if
the axle is out of the vehicle, you can put it up on stands with the pinion
down. This stops things from falling out on you. A helper comes in handy
too. Get you helper to turn the pinion back and forth while you try to line
up the axle shafts with the clutch plates. Remember to lube the clutches
before you install them, they're pretty tough to align dry.

To get the Limited Slip to realy work you have to get some torque through
the real axle. This applies pressure to the spiders that in turn clamp
harder on the clutches. My Mustang will easily spin one tire on the loose
stuff, but if I launch hard it'll spin both on dry pavement.

Matt

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:47:15 -0500
From: slikness mindspring.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers

>And be careful on the CATless system. It's a major fine.....<

I just wanted to ask, has anyone on this list ever been fined for removing their cat? I know that some mechanics and exhaust shops have received fines, but has any individual out there ever gotten one of those "steep" or "major fines? And, if so, who issued it? (The cat police??)

Just a thought,

Slik
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:08:05 -0800
From: John Jensen - Ericsson ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers

I'm not sure of "how much", but a couple aquaintances got caught at the
smog station.... :(

At 03:47 PM 1/13/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>And be careful on the CATless system. It's a major fine.....<
>
>I just wanted to ask, has anyone on this list ever been fined for removing
>their cat? I know that some mechanics and exhaust shops have received
>fines, but has any individual out there ever gotten one of those "steep" or
>"major fines? And, if so, who issued it? (The cat police??)
>
>Just a thought,
>
>Slik
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:26:22 -0700
From: Fred Moreno dualcurve.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Straight Pipes out of the Rear???

Keith wrote in reply to the header issue:

If you plan on doing a lot of rockcrawling-type stuff,
do not run it out the back. I scrape my rear bumper
constantly (even my custom one which sits flush w/the
body, more like a roll pan) and if I had tips coming
out right there, well the truck would not run too well
w/crushed tips. Bogging or just street driving should
be no problem, though.

I could not agree more with Keith.
I have the factory rear bumper on my '95 F-150 (short wheeled base) and
have scraped (graded?) a lot of "roads" coming out of some hole.
If I had the exhaust running straight out the back, the tips would of been
history miles ago. I dread the day I install a frame mounted hitch because
of the loss of clearance! Sure I could get a lift kit, but I don't have the
extra time and money to do it right. Donations are being accepted as we
speak.
Even if you don't live in a rock-crawlin part of the country, I would still
run the pipes out the side anyways because you never know when and if you'll
ever come down for a visit. It could happen!!

Phred, KD5AQB
1995 F-150 4X4, Petrol or Propane fed 5.0L, 5-speed, PolyShield Sprayed on
Bed liner.
La Union, New Mexico
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:03:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Keith Lawyer yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Straight Pipes out of the Rear???

Hey, at least someone agrees w/me! As for the hitch
issue, have you considered a roll pan hitch? You
might be able to get it to come out from behind where
the license plate currently sits. . . maybe? Mucho
better departure angle if it works.

Later,
Keith L.

- --- Fred Moreno dualcurve.com> wrote:
>
> Keith wrote in reply to the header issue:
>
> If you plan on doing a lot of rockcrawling-type
> stuff,
> do not run it out the back. I scrape my rear
> bumper
> constantly (even my custom one which sits flush
> w/the
> body, more like a roll pan) and if I had tips
> coming
> out right there, well the truck would not run too
> well
> w/crushed tips. Bogging or just street driving
> should
> be no problem, though.
>
> I could not agree more with Keith.
> I have the factory rear bumper on my '95 F-150
> (short wheeled base) and
> have scraped (graded?) a lot of "roads" coming out
> of some hole.
> If I had the exhaust running straight out the back,
> the tips would of been
> history miles ago. I dread the day I install a frame
> mounted hitch because
> of the loss of clearance! Sure I could get a lift
> kit, but I don't have the
> extra time and money to do it right. Donations are
> being accepted as we
> speak.
> Even if you don't live in a rock-crawlin part of
> the country, I would still
> run the pipes out the side anyways because you never
> know when and if you'll
> ever come down for a visit. It could happen!!
>
> Phred, KD5AQB
> 1995 F-150 4X4, Petrol or Propane fed 5.0L, 5-speed,
> PolyShield Sprayed on
> Bed liner.
> La Union, New Mexico
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:20:22 -0800 (PST)
From: 2insane excite.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Headers

- ---------------- blake says
I like a nice sounding truck, but loud is not it. It sounds like a piece of
junk that the muffler just fell off of. And in addition, it will draw cops
like flies. And at 17, you don't need that.
There are lots of nice sounding mufflers out there that do quiet it down.
Or, do like I did and try just cats. See how it sounds. My truck has tandem
cats and pretty well gets rid of the loudness.
- ---------------- me says
Right now I have the 2 stock cats with no muffler out the side, it sounds
good right now but I'd like to go with duals and tips to make it look good
as well as sound good.
When I get the headers(might be a little while, i've decided to get lights
for my grille guard i got for christmas first, KC Hillites maybe) i thought
i'd get everything new as well and put on the true duals to help the power
output a little, from what i hear about true duals with h-pipe.
I'd like to keep the costs down so thats one of the reasons why i want it to
be just straight piped. I figured 2 new cats(i don't think the stock ones
would work since each are for different air pollutants and one being a 2
in-1 out cat) would up the cost a little, but i'm not sure how much the
muffler shops would charge for those. Maybe I'll just use 2 turbo mufflers
instead and no cats. I think those are only about $15 each.
i'm not sure how its all going to come together either. i'd like to put the
headers on myself but am going to take it to a muffler man to get the duals
on. i'm hopin the headers will match up nice to the stock y-pipe or else
i'll end up with it straight out from the headers. now that would be a VERY
low backpressure exhaust. truck probably wouldn't even run close to being
right.
I think maybe i'll take off the cats and get a pipe welded in there and see
how it sounds now with my pipe out the side. Then i'll know how it sounds
and can decide from there. I have to wait another 1 1 week to do that
though because i already had a little run in with the law and a ticket that
says loud exhaust or any ticket would kind of screw me over. i'd tell the
story but would most likely be lit on fire with the flames i'd get. lets'
just say i'm not too fond of state cops anymore. Anyway .. .. .
I think these are my plans for now as money comes in
- -Get some lights to put in my push bar
- -weld in pipe instead of stock cats and see what that sounds like
- -get headers
- -get the true split duals out the back
- -pray it works right
After it starts coming together i'll e-mail the group here with my results
and probly change what i will end up doing.

DK -ramblin on and on-





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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:54:09 EST
From: LGRanch aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - help!

The broken part is in the steering column at the base of the ignition switch.
The part will come with a new steering column.
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:35:25 -0800
From: Chris McKinnon cnx.net>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - DI propane?

Here's a good one for you. Does anyone make a DI head for the 302-351 group
of engines? And if nobody does is there space on the head for an injector
port? This sound like the ultimate summer project shaping up. Lets see ... A
PIII 500 for an engine computer, enough sensors and gauges to run the space
shuttle, injectors stolen off a GM 710 engine (5000HP from the V16)... Talk
about a one of a kind truck!
Just some crazy idea,
Chris
'84 F150
351W on propane
NP 435
NP 208
284K Km

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:46:47 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki little-mountain.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Airlift Air Bags

>Has anyone on the list installed airbags for additional load assist.
>I've got a set and am clueless where I'm going to mount the compressor.
>Instructions say to mount it away from the elements. I've got a SuperCab
>so behind the drivers seat is not an option and it's too tall to fit
>under the rear seat. The engine compartment is cluttered enough. So, I'm
>thinking about putting in in the bed ahead of the rear wheels and build
>a small box for it. Sure would like to hear someone else's experience or
>opinion. :)
>

I have Air Lift brand air bags in the front of mine. With them, my truck
handles my super duty Boss plow just fine. I don't have a compressor on
mine, but have hoses routed to the radiator support. I can air up each bag
separately. 40-50 psi when loaded, or 10 psi when unloaded works fine. A
small bicycle pump only takes a few strokes to get the air up.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:35:29 -0600
From: "Harris, Scott" dfwairport.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - help!

The part that breaks is connected with that rod up by the key tumbler. It's
actually a odd-shaped linkeage that interconnects the shifter lock, steering
lock and ignition switch. If it is like my 85, look around where the
tumbler is and there is a little hole with a recessed pin. Stick something
pointed in there with the key in the "on" position and your entire tumbler
"should" pull right out. If the tumbler ass'y has the little tab that moves
the linkeage attached its the interlock that is broken, just fish the broken
piece out. If the tumbler is in good shape, get ready.....disassemble your
steering column from the wheel down to the shifter and I do mean
disassemble! I have a tilt wheel and I spent about 6 hours replacing the
broken piece. Actually I didn't know what was broken at first, I just
started taking it apart. The replacement was I think about $12 at Ford and
it is a common failure because the parts guy just reached in a drawer and
tossed it to me. I had to drop the column from the instrument panel to get
to all the nuts and bolts. You also have to work on the bottom side of the
shifter, it has 3 allen bolts that hold the shifter ass'y onto the column.
When reassembling run through the shift ranges to make sure that everything
is working before having to go back in. Also while you are there and you
have a tilt wheel check the hinge points for the tilt. Mine was out on one
side and I didn't even realize it.

Mine works great now but do better than me.....I had only 2-3 extra pieces
left over!

Scott Harris
'85 F150SC

- -----Original Message-----
From: Michael D. Mitchell [mailto:mdm peppersnet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 7:18 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - help!


ESneed reil.com wrote about his broken ignition actuator switch. Talk about
timely! The same thing happened to me yesterday on my '88 F-250. Key spins
way around and no start.
My steering column is already busted up since someone stole the
truck
before I bought it (I didn't buy it from the thieves!) and I found the rod
that runs down the steering column but pushing it doesn't do any more than
turning the key. Mine will still turn to the On position though. Haven't
tried hotwiring it yet.
I've got some questions though. Where is the part that breaks? At
the end
of that rod? How to get to it? Probably more importantly in my case, since
I need to replace the steering column anyway, wouldn't this be part of the
package?
Since I live in a remote part of the Southwest Texas Badlands, my
local
mechanic can't seem to find a used steering column for me. Anyone out there
have one for a reasonable price? Maybe even in San Antonio (I don't know if
shipping costs would be practical for this). This is an '88 F-250 with 5
speed standard tranny.

Thanks a bunch. Great list!
Mike Mitchell
Uvalde, TX


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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:42:19 -0600
From: "Harris, Scott" dfwairport.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - another exhaust tip

You have been discussing mufflers or not on exhaust systems. I have
mufflers that are built into the chrome tips,(still look good after 4 years)
they are basically glass-pacs and provide a nice deep rumble without being
annoying. When I got them they came in 3 sizes depending on what you liked.
Only problem is that I can't remember the brand. You might ask your muffler
shop and see if they know what I am talking about.

Scott Harris
'85 F150SC
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:59:53 -0700
From: "Jim Flinchbaugh" onyx.digisys.net>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ign. actuator replace .instructions

>

ok Here is the deal on the Ignition actuator link. You
have to remove steering wheel, remove turn signal switch,
remove lock cylinder (the part you stick the key in ) and
the link is on top of the steering column and connects the
lock cylinder to the rod that goes down thru the column
to the switch it self. the lower end of the actuator has a
SMALL pin in it that retains it to the rod. you will need a
very small pin punch to remove the pin, and for god's
sake don't drive it all the way thru or you will never see it
again. to reinstall the pin use a needlenose pliers and
squeeze it back into position .(BTW. If you get under the
dash and loosen the harness to the turn signal switch it
will allow you to pull the switch up and out of the way) If
you never replaced one before plan on about 2-3 hours
last one took me 45 min, and I've done several. part costs
about 10-12 bucks at the ford store. You will also need a
little tool called a lock pin remover. once you get the turn
signal switch out , if you look on each side of the column
(3&9 oclock) you will see a little pin. It is pressed in and
the remover ,of course , pulls the pin out. there is slight
springy tension on the housing once the pins are
removed.With much patience and a resonable amount of
common sense and you can do it yourself. Flag down
your local Cornwell or Snap-on truck to get the removal
tool. ( I have a spare actuator in my glove box just in
case). This part was designed by the same schmuck that
made the tailgate handles(how many broke those so far?)
Good luck

Jim Flinchbaugh 87 F150 4x4EFI EX cab 5.0
"it would have been cheaper to unbolt the plates and
drive a new one in between"
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:03:18 -0700
From: "Jim Flinchbaugh" onyx.digisys.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - DI propane?

Date sent: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:35:25 -0800
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
From: Chris McKinnon cnx.net>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - DI propane?
Send reply to: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com

> Here's a good one for you. Does anyone make a DI head for the 302-351 group
> of engines? And if nobody does is there space on the head for an injector
> port? This sound like the ultimate summer project shaping up. Lets see ... A
> PIII 500 for an engine computer, enough sensors and gauges to run the space
> shuttle, injectors stolen off a GM 710 engine (5000HP from the V16)... Talk
> about a one of a kind truck!
> Just some crazy idea,
> Chris
> '84 F150
> 351W on propane
> NP 435
> NP 208
> 284K Km
>
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sounds like you need to quit inhaling that propane , But
what great fun you must be lighting farts at a party!!!
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:03:30 +1100
From: les williams cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - DI propane?

Hi Chris,
Please pardon my ignorance, but what's a DI head ? And what are you trying to
accomplish - more details, Please.
If it's what I think you mean, it already been done - how many do you want?....


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