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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid
Re: FTE 80-96 - swap
RE: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?
FTE 80-96 - 85 F350 vin number
FTE 80-96 - Re: U-Joint Replacement / wheel bearing
FTE 80-96 - Tires for comfortable road ride? - 86 F250 2wd extra-cab
Re: FTE 80-96 - Tires for comfortable road ride? - 86 F250 2wd extra-cab
FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs
Re: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs
FTE 80-96 - F150 weight
RE: FTE 80-96 - F150 weight
Re: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs
FTE 80-96 - F-250 motor
Re: FTE 80-96 - F-250 motor
Re: FTE 80-96 - F-250 motor
Re: FTE 80-96 - F-250 motor
Re: FTE 80-96 - Excessive Oil Loss Thru Breather Tube
Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Tires for comfortable road ride? - 86 F250 2wd extra-cab
Re: FTE 80-96 - Late model Auto Hubs (Removal)
RE: FTE 80-96 - F150 weight
Re: FTE 80-96 - Tires for comfortable road ride? - 86 F250 2wd extra-cab
Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cummins B 2 Diesel
Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?
Re: FTE 80-96 - F-250 motor
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Power stuff in a non power vehicle...
RE: FTE 80-96 - F150 weight

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 06:16:57 -0600
From: "Sam Means" inetport.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid

The mystery fluid probably is automatic transmission fluid. A small leak in
the vacuum modulator will allow the engine vacuum to import fliud into the
vacuum lines,and it accumulates in low paces in the lines. After a while,the
lines start swelling and deteriorating..then leak or fall off due to being
too loss.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:50:37 -0500
From: slikness mindspring.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - swap

> hey slik...when you swaped your 300 i6 for a 351w..did you have clutch problems..? the linkages...i might have to put a mechanical clutch in, instead of keepong the hydralic one.

I had a C6 automatic and I had not linkage problems except for the kickdown from the carb to the tranny.

Slik
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:56:14 -0600 (CST)
From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?

luckily(for now) i am single and have no kids, so nothing could have
been spilled. besides, if i did have kids, i doubt i would have tasted
the fluid!!

David
85 F-150 300 I6

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:14:00 -0700
From: Andrew Antipas sopris.net>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 85 F350 vin number

I paid $4,000 for the truck. I live in western colorado about 3 hours
west of Denver. The truck needs paint, tires, the right valve cover
leaks oil and their is coolant leak somewhere. The truck also has AC and
cruise control both of which need to be fixed.

Good to know the truck came with a limited slip. I'm dissapointed that
it has 4.10s. I was hoping they were higher because I it will be a long
distance highway truck. When I test drove it I found it to be much
quieter than my 77 F250 4x4. I will have to try it on a local trip?

Thank you for the information!

Andy

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:42:23 -0600
From: Andy Norris allenpress.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: U-Joint Replacement / wheel bearing

At 09:45 AM 1-8-2000 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, les williams wrote:
>
> > Being an F250, it's more likely to be Dana rear end, so
>
>Ford 10.25 in the rear, Dana 44 up front.
>At least that's what most of the F250's are.
>
>--
>Ken Woods
>kwoods kens.com


Thanks, David, Jim, Les, and Ken,

Yep. It was a Ford 10.25. I took it apart Saturday, as the differential
needed looked at anyway... had the obligatory "wet look" across the bottom
of the back of the rear hood. Needed a new gasket. Wanted to look at the
gears in there, too. The axle shaft looked good, and everything else seemed
fine. Replaced the outer bearing while I had it apart, for good measure.
Inner bearing moved fine... too much work to replace it for good measure,
eh :). It took looking at both the Haynes and the Chiltons manuals to piece
all the info together...

The good news is that I had it all together to drive to work today.

The bad news is that I've probably got part of next weekend booked
replacing U-joints, as the noise is still there.

Other good news, though, is I learned quite a bit taking it apart and
getting into the differential. New gear lube in the differential to replace
the black "tar" that came out... Another mysterious part of the truck no
longer such a mystery...

Thanks for the suggestions on replacing the U-joints, David and Les. I will
put them to good use next weekend!

Andy Norris


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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:31:00 +500
From: "Bob Berto" somerset-nj.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tires for comfortable road ride? - 86 F250 2wd extra-cab

Hello all!

I just purchased my truck and joined the list & could not figure how to research
the archives so I'll risk asking --

I'd like to hear recommendations on what is a good road tire
to provide the best ride. The truck will not be used off-road
and will seldom be loaded. I have 16" inch wheels with 8 lugs.
The current size is 235-85x16LT I believe. "Sport" recommendations are also
welcome.

The seller put Sears Trailhandler APTs on that seem to be more of an on/off
road tire ( for sale, Central NJ ).

Thanks in advance,

Bob
Somerset, NJ
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:22:08 -0600
From: "Michael Shepler" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tires for comfortable road ride? - 86 F250 2wd extra-cab

Welcome. what engine did you get with that f-250? I am real leary of oil
pressure problems. I have a fleet and all of them have the problem. I have
talked to others more knowledgable than I who say Fords have that low
pressure problem. I have a 351m, two 351w's, and one 300 six.

I am having a high pressure oil pump put in one right now.

Mike
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Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tires for comfortable road ride? - 86 F250 2wd
extra-cab


> Hello all!
>
> I just purchased my truck and joined the list & could not figure how to
research
> the archives so I'll risk asking --
>
> I'd like to hear recommendations on what is a good road tire
> to provide the best ride. The truck will not be used off-road
> and will seldom be loaded. I have 16" inch wheels with 8 lugs.
> The current size is 235-85x16LT I believe. "Sport" recommendations are
also
> welcome.
>
> The seller put Sears Trailhandler APTs on that seem to be more of an
on/off
> road tire ( for sale, Central NJ ).
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bob
> Somerset, NJ
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:17:31 -0800
From: Nathaniel Ingersoll packetengines.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs

I've got a '97 F350 4x4 (CC, PSD, SRW) with a 4.10 limited slip rear (VIN
1FTJW36F4VEA80655 - I can't at the moment find a decoder for this...).

Question is - sometimes on ice, going up my driveway, it seems that only a
single rear wheel will spin, and the other will just sit there (until 4x4 is
engaged, then the whole truck moves...).

Is this reasonable lim-slip behavior?

Thanks.
N
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:40:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Woods kens.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs

ARB.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4x44u.com/pub/k2/am4x44u/video/arbpage2.htm


On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Nathaniel Ingersoll wrote:

> I've got a '97 F350 4x4 (CC, PSD, SRW) with a 4.10 limited slip rear (VIN
> 1FTJW36F4VEA80655 - I can't at the moment find a decoder for this...).
>
> Question is - sometimes on ice, going up my driveway, it seems that only a
> single rear wheel will spin, and the other will just sit there (until 4x4 is
> engaged, then the whole truck moves...).
>
> Is this reasonable lim-slip behavior?
>
> Thanks.
> N
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:17:45 -0500
From: Jarl Skogsholm esgear.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F150 weight

How much does my truck weigh?
I have a 95 F150 XLT extended cab, 6cyl, short bed.

Thanks

Jarl Skogsholm
Essential Surfing Gear Inc.

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:25:42 -0600
From: "Moore, Jimmy" zymetx.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - F150 weight

My truck weight, of course it is on an '81 F150 Long bed 6cyl, is on the
door when you open it up. I don't remember if it is on the door, by the
lock, or on the frame where the door closes into. But mine weighs around
3700 pounds.

Jim Moore
1981 Ford F-150 300 Six
1964 Ford F-100 292
Oklahoma City, OK


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From: Jarl Skogsholm [mailto:jarl esgear.com]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 5:18 PM
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Subject: FTE 80-96 - F150 weight


How much does my truck weigh?
I have a 95 F150 XLT extended cab, 6cyl, short bed.

Thanks

Jarl Skogsholm
Essential Surfing Gear Inc.

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:02:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Keith Lawyer yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Limited Slip diffs

I have personally never seen the Ford Trak-Lok do much
of anything. I'm also told that the clutch paks are
only good for roughly 30k miles, so if you've got more
than that, chances are that your l/s is not doing
much. But as I said, I've seen one on a new (at the
time) '97 F-150 allow one wheel to spin and the other
to just sit there on a mildly slimy hill.

Keith L.

- --- Nathaniel Ingersoll packetengines.com>
wrote:
> I've got a '97 F350 4x4 (CC, PSD, SRW) with a 4.10
> limited slip rear (VIN
> 1FTJW36F4VEA80655 - I can't at the moment find a
> decoder for this...).
>
> Question is - sometimes on ice, going up my
> driveway, it seems that only a
> single rear wheel will spin, and the other will just
> sit there (until 4x4 is
> engaged, then the whole truck moves...).
>
> Is this reasonable lim-slip behavior?
>
> Thanks.
> N
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:39:20 -0600
From: "a b" uab.campuscwix.net>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - F-250 motor

My wife went to look at '96 F-250 today and didn't know if it was a
diesel or not. She says it had two batteries. Apparrently the person
salesman didn't know either. Said he only dealt with cars. So, does Ford
put two batteries in 351 gas F-250?

thanks,
Bill

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:46:21 EST
From: Lingus0169 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F-250 motor

NOT THAT I KNOW OF... 2 BATTERIES ARE PRETTY MUCH ONLY USED IN DIESEL ONLY
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:50:51 PST
From: "barry mitchell" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F-250 motor

I know the diesels definately have dual batteries.
Barry
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:28:34 -0800
From: "Kevin Moore" earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F-250 motor

In 96, the dual batteries was an option. It came most often with the camper
package.
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Subject: FTE 80-96 - F-250 motor


> My wife went to look at '96 F-250 today and didn't know if it was a
> diesel or not. She says it had two batteries. Apparrently the person
> salesman didn't know either. Said he only dealt with cars. So, does Ford
> put two batteries in 351 gas F-250?
>
> thanks,
> Bill
>
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:34:19 -0600
From: "DannyF" ev1.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Excessive Oil Loss Thru Breather Tube

Next step is a compression test.

All it takes is 1 cyl. to be an oil pumper for you to accumulate oil in
the little filter/air filter housing. Or just check the plugs for an oiled
one.

Danny

> As you guys remember i was losing alot of oil thru the breather tube coming
> from the oil filler neck going to the airbox. I checked the PCV valve and it
> rattle and seemed ok, but i went ahead and replaced it and the rubber grommet
> anyway. The line that the pcv hooks to has ALOT of suction coming from it.
> When i took the PCV valve off with the motor running the motor reved up.
> Threre was no smoke or anything coming out the pcv valve hole so i guess
> that's good. Are there any other lines that could be clogged or could one of
> those little tanks be messed up? I refuse to believe that the motor is worn
> out (compression rings bad or something) because before this all started it
> only used about a 1/2 of quart of oil every 3000. Actually this really
> didn't start doing this till i pulled my trailer loaded full of scrap iron.
> (35 ft goosneck). This truck before i owned it pulled a trailer the same
> dimensions its whole life and always ran good.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:55:25 -0800
From: "Kevin Crandall" anv.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?

David, I have been watching this post and I need to say DON'T TASTE ANY
FLUIDS. It's just not worth it. I hope you can figure it out. Good luck to
you.

Kevin

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Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 5:56 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?


> luckily(for now) i am single and have no kids, so nothing could have
> been spilled. besides, if i did have kids, i doubt i would have tasted
> the fluid!!
>
> David
> 85 F-150 300 I6
>
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:07:00 EST
From: Spruce1495 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tires for comfortable road ride? - 86 F250 2wd extra-cab

I have had Dayton Wilderness A/Ts on my F150, and the ride very well and wear
even better. I started using Daytons about 15 years ago and have had them
on both truck and car since.

Bill in KY
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:32:37 EST
From: Animule43 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Late model Auto Hubs (Removal)

I am looking for a wiring ha nest for flue injection for 87 88 ranger 2.9 L.
I would like to have phone Num to greenbaypartsworld.com or the right e mail
so I can get a hold of them. part num. is E6TZ9A451A thanks
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:08:58 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki little-mountain.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - F150 weight

>My truck weight, of course it is on an '81 F150 Long bed 6cyl, is on the
>door when you open it up. I don't remember if it is on the door, by the
>lock, or on the frame where the door closes into. But mine weighs around
>3700 pounds.
>

That number is the GVW. F150's weigh more than that. Figure around 5,000 lbs.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:02:16 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki little-mountain.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tires for comfortable road ride? - 86 F250 2wd extra-cab

>I have had Dayton Wilderness A/Ts on my F150, and the ride very well and wear
>even better. I started using Daytons about 15 years ago and have had them
>on both truck and car since.
>

I have Kelly Springfield MSR 33" and I really like them. Ride well. Good in
mud and snow. Wear well. Quiet.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:05:31 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki little-mountain.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?

>David, I have been watching this post and I need to say DON'T TASTE ANY
>FLUIDS. It's just not worth it. I hope you can figure it out. Good luck to
>you.

Could be from mouse living under dash.


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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:15:49 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki little-mountain.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cummins B 2 Diesel

>Hey Blake, Are these cummins engines used in something other than Dodge
>trucks? Are they turbos?
>

They are used in Case-International tractors, many delivery trucks and
motorhomes, and Ford F-600 trucks.


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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:27:28 -0600 (CST)
From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?

dat blame it i thought i had removed all the evidence from the dead
body........ did i say that out loud? hehehehe i'm going to look a
little closer at it tommorrow to see if i can find the origin of it.

David
85 F-150 300 I6

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:45:38 -0800
From: Chris McKinnon cnx.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - F-250 motor

Some of the trucks with camper packages might have 2 batteries, one for
starting, one deep cycle for running the camper lights...
Chris
'84 F150
351W on propane
NP 435
NP 208
281K Km

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:58:18 PST
From: "Jared Templin" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Power stuff in a non power vehicle...

I assume you read my writeup about my installation. I would think it would
be pretty expensive to buy the whole doors, but maybe you can get a good
deal. Don't forget the crossover wiring harness either.

Jared

snip----

Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:04:23 EST
From: Lingus0169 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: Power stuff in a non power vehicle...

well i was figuring that if i bought somw good condition doors with the
the
power locks and windows in them..i could just swap the doors .. at least
that
is what i am planning to do.
nick

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:52:03 -0800
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