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80-96-list-digest Monday, January 10 2000 Volume 04 : Number 008



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?
FTE 80-96 - Excessive Oil Loss Thru Breather Tube
Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?
Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?
Re: FTE 80-96 - swap
FTE 80-96 - 85 F350 vin number
Re: FTE 80-96 - 85 F350 vin number
FTE 80-96 - Fuel tank selector switch or valve?
Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Fuel tank selector switch or valve?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Blow-By, Bad Compression
RE: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?
Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?
FTE 80-96 - Re: Headers
Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Blow-By, Bad Compression

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 09:08:57 -0500
From: "slik" mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?

Could be A/C oil leaking. That oil circulates through the entire system.

Slik
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Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 3:03 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?


> hey guys, i noticed tonight that there is a fluid of some sorts coming
> from under and in the center of my dash. i thought it was a heater core
> leaking, but i tasted the fluid and it is not sweet, and it is colored
> like light tranny fluid, and feels almost like motor oil. any ideas on
> what this might be?
>
> David


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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:59:28 EST
From: WoodStck45 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Excessive Oil Loss Thru Breather Tube

As you guys remember i was losing alot of oil thru the breather tube coming
from the oil filler neck going to the airbox. I checked the PCV valve and it
rattle and seemed ok, but i went ahead and replaced it and the rubber grommet
anyway. The line that the pcv hooks to has ALOT of suction coming from it.
When i took the PCV valve off with the motor running the motor reved up.
Threre was no smoke or anything coming out the pcv valve hole so i guess
that's good. Are there any other lines that could be clogged or could one of
those little tanks be messed up? I refuse to believe that the motor is worn
out (compression rings bad or something) because before this all started it
only used about a 1/2 of quart of oil every 3000. Actually this really
didn't start doing this till i pulled my trailer loaded full of scrap iron.
(35 ft goosneck). This truck before i owned it pulled a trailer the same
dimensions its whole life and always ran good.
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:11:13 -0600 (CST)
From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?

it has an analog oil pressure gauge. but there are no oil lines that go
into the cab to my knowledge. and it didn't taste like oil.

David
85 F-150 300 I6

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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 18:18:52 -0600
From: Jim Cannon gtalumni.org>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?

Rusty water from small windshield leak?

At 12:11 09/01/00 -0600, you wrote:
>it has an analog oil pressure gauge. but there are no oil lines that go
>into the cab to my knowledge. and it didn't taste like oil.


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!"
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 19:29:09 EST
From: Lingus0169 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - swap

hey slik...when you swaped your 300 i6 for a 351w..did you have clutch
problems..? the linkages...i might have to put a mechanical clutch in,
instead of keepong the hydralic one.
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 18:24:35 -0700
From: Andrew Antipas sopris.net>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 85 F350 vin number

Hi Listers,

Just bought a 1985 F350 XL 4x4 crewcab w/ a 460 and 4spd with 120,000
miles. Was wondering if anyone could help me decode the vin number and
axle code or point me in the right direction. The local ford dealer was
no help....

Vin = 2FTJW36L9FCA52279

WB = 168
Type GVW = W361
Body = LDD
Trans = P
Axle = G2
Tape = 3

Wondering if anyone out there has one of these and what there experience
has been. Also wondering what kind of gas mileage folks have been
getting as well as any suggested modifications. The truck is pretty much
stock at this point and has spent its life pulling a 5th wheel horse
trailer.

Thanks in advance!

Andy A.

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 20:54:58 EST
From: FULSZBRONC aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 85 F350 vin number

I pulled this info right from the factory Ford Truck Manual, 1985. A very
nice rig. Can I ask how much you paid and what part of the country you're in?


>
> Vin = 2FTJW36L9FCA52279

2FT = COMPLETE VEHICLE (CANADA) <<<<<<<<<<<<<
J = HYD. BRAKES 9,001-10,000 POUNDS <<<<<<<<<<<<<
W36 = F350 4X4 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
L = 460 ENGINE <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
9 = CHECK DIGIT <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
F = 1985
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
C = OAKVILLE, ONTARIO TRUCK PLANT <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
A52279 = PROUCTION SEQUENCE NUMBER <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

> WB = 168-----------------------------SELF EXPLANATORY
> Type GVW = W361----------------9300 GVW
> Body = LDD---------------------------RED CLOTH & VINYL BENCH SEAT,CREW CAB
STYLESIDE P/U
> Trans = P------------------------------MANUAL T-18 4 SPEED WARNER T-19
> Axle = G2------------------------------DANA LIMITED SLIP, 6300# CAPACITY,
4.10 RATIO
> Tape = 3--------------------------------BITTERSWEET/SILVER
>

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:01:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Woods kens.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fuel tank selector switch or valve?

After a very confusing afternoon, I've figured out when the switch is in
the "F" position, the front fuel pump is on, but fuel is still being
delivered from the REAR tank.

When the switch is the "R" position, everything works as it should.

Sounds like there's a problem with the selector valve, correct?
I remember reading about "SOMETHING" going wrong with the system, and I
think it was the acutal valve, but I just can't recall.

In any case, how much does this valve cost, and how much of a pain in the
ass is it to replace?


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kwoods kens.com
'89 F250
www.kens.com/truckpics


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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 20:51:45 -0600 (CST)
From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?

thats a real good possibility Jim, thanx. it has been misting/raining
the last couple of days so i will keep an eye on it and see. otherwise
i think the air conditioner oil is the best bet. thanx guys......

David
85 F-150 300 I6

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 19:01:31 -0800
From: "Pinson" speakeasy.org>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Fuel tank selector switch or valve?

Hope this helps
Britt Pinson
pinson speakeasy.org


Here's a story from a reader about a problem with hard starting and fuel
tank woes on Ford F250s.
Okay, here's the story. There is a recall kit for several years of F-250
trucks (including 93) which consists of two in-line check valves and a new
fuel pressure regulator. The valves go in the supply line from the fuel
pumps to the tanks and prevent fuel from flowing into the tanks from the
supply lines. This kit was issued by Ford to prevent two problems: fuel
flowing from one tank into the other through the supply lines, and long
cranking times due to fuel running back into the tanks after the vehicle was
shut off.

The pressure regulator was included as good practice. In my case, I had the
two valves and the pressure regulator installed. Sure enough, the long
cranking time stopped, but I still had fuel going from one tank to the
other. Yes, I verified that fuel was flowing from one tank to the other. The
final solution was to replace one of the fuel pumps (only one because Ford
wants ~$250 for the things and if that WASN'T the problem, I wasn't out
$500). Voila! I replaced the front tank fuel pump, and fuel would still flow
from the rear to the front, but NOT from the front to the rear. I will
replace the rear pump in a couple of weeks, and the problem will go away
completely. The problem seems to be that the fuel pumps were going bad, and
not putting out enough pressure to open the return valves in their own
tanks, but putting out enough pressure to flow through the return valve in
the OTHER tank.

Let me explain. In one of Ford's "better ideas", some turkey decided that
each fuel pump should have its return line flow through the pump assembly
through a valve. Okay. Not how I would have done it, but okay. However, to
make the valve open only when that pump was activated, a minimum amount of
pressure must be maintained in order to open the valve sufficiently so that
fuel can return ONLY through that valve. The problem is that when that
minimum amount of pressure is not available, fuel will flow through the
*other* tank's return valve, which is what was happening to me. I suppose
it's another way to indicate that a fuel pump is going bad, but it seems
like a simple pressure sensor would be better. And cheaper. Anyway, that's
what it was. Runs great now. I highly recommend anyone who has one of these
trucks and is experiencing the long start-up time to get the valves placed
in the lines. It solves the problem immediately.

Thanks for the time. --Dana Burgess


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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:13:26 EST
From: Spruce1495 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Blow-By, Bad Compression

If you are getting a huffing noise from tailpipe I would think it could be a
burned or cracked exh. valve, noise from carb could be a burned or cracked
intake valve. Just a thought.

Bill in KY
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:18:00 -0400
From: "Brad Watts" nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?

How about the kids spilling something on the dash and down through the
defroster vent?
Brad Watts / AMT
E-mail wattsb nbnet.nb.ca
Web www.amt.nb.ca


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[mailto:owner-80-96-list ford-trucks.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cannon
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 8:19 PM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?

Rusty water from small windshield leak?

At 12:11 09/01/00 -0600, you wrote:
>it has an analog oil pressure gauge. but there are no oil lines that go
>into the cab to my knowledge. and it didn't taste like oil.


Jim Cannon
Houston, TX "A Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech
'29 Ford Model A Phaeton and a helluva' engineer!"
'80 Ford F-150 300 I-6 2WD '63 Buick Riviera 401 V-8
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:53:54 EST
From: Spruce1495 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?

Kids don't do that do they ???
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 23:28:55 -0600
From: Ezekial galstar.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Headers

I have a set of Headmans on my 93 F-150 5.8. They were only like $100
bucks and included a lifetime warranty. They fix PERFECTLY and are an
awesom fit. I would recommend them to anyone wanting headers and on a
budjet. However, you will have to disconnect some of your smog stuff
because they do not have the passages on them. But this was ok for me,
cause I recently completed the Re Re-build and removed most of the smog
equipment.

If anyone wants to see pictures or info look at my website
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.galstar.com/~derrick/index.html
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:58:59 +1100
From: les williams cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - mystery fluid?

Check the speedo cable for under dash wettness, it could be a worn or shot
seal at the G/box.

regards

Les
Lost in the Land of OZ

David Trowbridge wrote:

> hey guys, i noticed tonight that there is a fluid of some sorts coming
> from under and in the center of my dash. i thought it was a heater core
> leaking, but i tasted the fluid and it is not sweet, and it is colored
> like light tranny fluid, and feels almost like motor oil. any ideas on
> what this might be?
>
> David
> 85 F-150 300 I6
>
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:59:27 +1100
From: les williams cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Blow-By, Bad Compression

BanksRVA aol.com wrote:

> Ok, so how do I determine what is wrong with the truck?
>
> 8. Compression test numbers are cylinders 1-6, 110,170,165,180,180,180.

Hmmm.... More than 10% variation, No.1 is there for the ride!!...... As the Queen
of Hearts said to the Court about Alice, in the story of Alice in Wonderland,
'Off with her head .... Off with her head!!' ...... ;-))

When you do lift the head, try not to mutilate the headgasket, and take it to who....


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