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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - C...Y vs. Ford
FTE 80-96 - More Carb Icing Updates
Re: FTE 80-96 - C***y vs Ford
FTE 80-96 - Dual tanks again
FTE 80-96 - Tranny probs
Re: FTE 80-96 - Tranny probs
Re: FTE 80-96 - update bad coil?
FTE 80-96 - RE:C***y vs Ford
[none]
Re: FTE 80-96 - Lubing the Chassis
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:Exhaust Leak
Re: FTE 80-96 - C***y vs Ford
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE:C***y vs Ford
Re: FTE 80-96 - C***y vs Ford
FTE 80-96 - Re: Lubing the Chassis / Funny Story
FTE 80-96 - Tranny
FTE 80-96 - Major Front end Drag....
Re: FTE 80-96 - Exhaust leak
FTE 80-96 - Re:
FTE 80-96 - Engines????
FTE 80-96 - Headers
FTE 80-96 - Re: f 150 worth
FTE 80-96 - Re: ford 9"
Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers
Re: FTE 80-96 -
Re: FTE 80-96 - C***y vs Ford
Re: FTE 80-96 - C...Y vs. Ford
Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers
Re: FTE 80-96 - Tranny probs
Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engines????
Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers
FTE 80-96 - power windows and doors
FTE 80-96 - Late model Auto Hubs (Removal)
Re: FTE 80-96 - C...Y vs. Ford

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 06:53:43 -0500 (EST)
From: DBblueboy webtv.net (Jerome Kelly)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - C...Y vs. Ford

I can remember when we put bon animi in the 265 cu in to stop oil
burning. They did
well for a while in the early sixties. In the
seventies it got so bad that the federal trade commission had to
intervene with GM. The soft cams in the engines, and the 600 metric
tranny. The little four cylinders that couldnt take heat and blow.
Yes, they ripped me off one to many times. How bout the chevy 350s they
put in Oldsmobiles. The plugged gas
engines they passed for deseils. They
are criminal type people in my book. To
buy one of their products is to support crime. Yes they had to pay some
people
back and reimburse some. But with the
money already in the bank, the interest would more than cover that.
Ford has
their problems and need to address the
cracked manifold problems. The trade
comission should require them to replace
the manifolds at no cost. Being that the government sticks their nose
in on free trade. They set a limit on big truck production and have a
large tax on import trucks. If one needs a pickup truck, the consumer
only have three to pick from.
They have a captive market and could make an even worse product. All
three
have special problems. I stay with Ford
because they don't lie as much as GM.



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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 07:58:23 -0400
From: "Bowman, John A" mtt.ca>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - More Carb Icing Updates

Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:51:13 -0600
From: "DannyF" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Carb Icing Update

> > > I live in eastern Canada and we have a lot of cold and damp winter
> weather.
> > > This is the season I dread as it makes cold start up and driving a
> pain....
> > > let me explain.
> > >
> > > I have an '83 F100 with a 302, 2 BBL, automatic that is completely
> stock.
> > > The choke works well under all conditions except one... when it is
cold
> (32F
> > > to about 40F) and damp. When starting the truck for the first time in
> the
> > > morning it starts fine. However when I drive away and come to a stop
at
> an
> > > intersection the truck usually stalls and is difficult to keep idling
> for
> > > the first 5 minutes of operation. After that, the idle speed picks up
to
> a
> > > normal level and for the rest of the day works OK.
> > >
> > > The choke operation is fine and the wires and cap are OK. If the
> temperature
> > > is above 40F and raining, no problem so I don't think it is an
> electrical
> > > problem. I am told that is a problem that is called carburetor icing
the
> > > happens on a cold engine under certain environmental conditions.
> > >
> > > My question... what can I do to eliminate or minimize the problem?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > John Bowman
> > >
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> > Hey John Your carb is most likly icing. It does not have
> > to be below 32 F for the carb to ice. We all know that a
> > pressure drop results in cooler temps right? well how
> > much cooler do yo think it is inside the carb where the
> > pressure is 15-178 inches BELOW atmosphere? Cold
> > enough to form ice crystals when it is damp! if you still
> > have the stock air cleaner installed, The little flapper door
> > in the snorkel portion is designed to shut off out side air
> > and draw from the flex hose up from the ex manifold
> > introcucing warmer air to give the under hood temp
> > enough time to come up. There is a small sensor
> > mounted inside your air cleaner that allows or disallows
> > vacuum to the door motor. in this era I believe they called
> > this a thermactor air system. If all the parts are there
> > check out theoperation of each piece, suck on the
> > controler for the door does it move? if so and all the
> > hoses are installed properly replace the sensor/switch.
> > Good luck!
> > Jim Flinchbaugh 87 F150 4x4 EFI5.0
>
> Your climate makes your truck very dependent on 3 systems to
> work properly on startup and pre-warmup operation: choke(seems
> your covered here), intake air preheat(very important and Jim's
> covered that) and int. manifold "crossover" heat. This heats up the
> int. manifold during cold operation by diverting hot exh. gas thru a
> passage in the int. manifold. It will assist in warming the carb also
> by conduction.
>
> See that little canister on the exh. manifold/header pipe w/a vac
> line? Thats controlling exh. flow to the intake man. If you have a
> bad vac. switch, stuck valve or bad diaphram, it won't work
> correctly.
> Danny
> danf01 worldnet.att.net
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>
> I really appreciate all the help so here is an update.
>
> OK... Here is what I found. The choke seems to be working OK.
>
> The "flapper" on the end of the air cleaner closes while cold and draws
> warm
> air from the plenum around the exhaust manifold. However it remains
> closed
> when the truck warms up! What gives? If I trace the vacuum line from it
> goes
> to a module in the side of the air cleaner. I removed the vacuum line
> from
> the module and the "flapper" snapped open so the "flapper" seems to be
> working OK. The module on the air cleaner seems to be the problem but
> that
> is not an issue when cold.
>
> Now I see the valve that is on the end of the exhaust manifold. When the
> engine is cold that valve should be closed thus preventing exhaust gasses
> to
> pass to the tail pipe. Now you say that these gasses are routed to heat
> the
> intake manifold but how do they get there and once through the intake
> manifold, where are the gasses routed? I have yet to test this valve but
> will watch it on the next cold start up.
>
> Anything else I should be checking?

Yes, sounds like your "module" on the air cleaner housing is bad.
Its nothing but a vacuum switch. When it senses cold temps, it
opens diverting vac to the flapper diaphram and the flapper closes
diverting hot/warm air to the intake. With warm temps there is no
vac to the diaphram and the flapper stays open.

Onto the "crossover" heat operation: Once again, on your truck
operated by a vacuum switch(screwed into an water passage or
water outlet). When cold the switch opens diverting vac to the
"canister"(diaphram housing) and a "flapper" closes diverting hot
exh. gas into a separate passage in the middle of the intake man.
This will warm up the intake and carb area for manageable
driveability when cold.

The exh. gas is merely passed through the pass. side head, into a
separate intake "crossover" port, into the driver's side head thats
ported out to the driver's side exh. manifold. Theres no mixing of
exh/int gasses here.

If all this checks out(you've already found 1 problem) a choke adj
might be in order.
Danny
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Danny,

Thanks for your help. Here is the latest...

I checked the operation of the module on the exhaust manifold and it snapped
shut when engine was cold and slowly opened when as the engine warmed. This
looks OK.

This morning the temp was 12c (approx. 55F) and raining; the truck started
fine and ran with no Carb Icing symptoms... yesterday it was 8c (46F) and
raining in the morning and all the symtoms were there for the first 5
minutes of operation.

As for the choke; I recently had the choke pull back module replaced and it
seems my problems started around then.

Any further thoughts?



*************************
J.A. Bowman
'83 F100; Big Red
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 06:06:30 -0600
From: Bill G beapsy1.his.uab.edu>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - C***y vs Ford

This is still a possibility. It probably needs a trans too. Last I listened it
had what sounded like an input bearing raising cain. I figure another $1500 on
top of the Jasper motor $2500 installed. So $4000 is reasonable. But then I
think what if emission, injection, computer stuff starts going south; and the
paint looks like hammered sh*t ( you know, "Ford gray don't stay") and I get up
to $5,000 with other assorted parts and a cheapo paint job... and I go hmmm.

BanksRVA aol.com wrote:

> Why not put another engine in the truck you already have? If the rest of the
> truck is in good shape then it is probably a safer bet to stick with it
> instead of buying a truck you know nothing about.
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:50:45 +0500
From: "James" colstate.edu>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Dual tanks again

Hi Guys,

I have a 1989 F150 with the 300 six / Mazda 5 speed and dual gas
tanks. The fuel system seemed to be working fine until I replaced
the vent seal in the top of the rear tank and now the rear tank shows
empty even when it's full plus the engine draws from the front tank
even if the rear tank is selected? Got any ideas what I may have
done wrong?

Thanks,
James Hiers



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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 07:16:49 -0800 (PST)
From: michael lopez excite.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tranny probs

Hey all,
I have my dad's work truck 88 f150 4wd 5spd 5.0 EFI, and upon moving it to
get more cars in the drive, put the truck in reverse let teh clutch out and
the damn thing popped outta gear. i put it in first moved forward(to
synchronize reverse gotta do it in the SHO most of the time)then tried
reverse, same thing happens he gear grinded adn popped into netrual again.
so my question here is, did reverse bite the proverbial dust or is it a
linkage problem? if it's a linkage problem could someone e-mail me offlist
with a quick lesson on how i can do it myself? I have done a little bit of
reg maintence to this truck, it's normally on the job site so it gets the
living daylights beat out of it i suppose. any help appreciated thaks
Mike lopez jr.





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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:11:45 -0600 (CST)
From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tranny probs

i suppose it could be the linkage, but i had a 73 F-100 a while back
that did the same thing you are describing. i later found out that the
reverse gear had actually cracked and required a complete rebuild of the
tranny. it was a 3 speed manual. unfourtunately, i am not sure how to
go about adjusting the linkage if that is the problem.

David
85 F-150 300 I6

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:20:38 -0600 (CST)
From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - update bad coil?

it is a carb on the truck. i swapped the coil out yesterday for an MSD
coil. a friend of mine gets huge discounts on parts so i got it for
$35, i couldn't pass it up. so the truck starts perfectly fine now, but
once it warms up it runs like crap. i am thinking the choke is stuck.
i am about to get my haynes manual and see if i can see whats going on.

David
85 F-150 300 I6

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:25:28 -0700
From: Fred Moreno dualcurve.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE:C***y vs Ford

Hey Mr. Bill,

Now that someone mentioned pulling horse trailers and all (a horse - the
original riding lawn mower?), we have friends with a 3/4ton C***y truck,
towing package with the 350 auto. When they originally bought the truck,
their idea was to pull their horse trailer with two riding lawn mowers in
it. Out on the open flat roads it is not a problem for their truck to pull
that loaded trailer. But around here we have lots of beautiful mountains and
they like to go out on trail rides a lot in the high country.
Their truck (85Kmiles and well taken care of) just will not do over 35 mph
on the steep grades with the trailer and horses. So he ends up having
traffic pile up behind him while negotiating the winding twisting roads.
I cannot count the number of times I heard 'ol Joe has say '...damn!!! I
wish I had a diesel...' -he's a retired Railroad engineer. Ol'Joe dreams of
owning a Dudge (I know, I know...) or Ford with a diesel.
'Nuff said, and those are my two pesos.

Phred, KD5AQB (How about that Ham restructuring issue?Yahoo!)
La Union NM/El Paso TX

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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 13:20:54 CST
From: "ben gerhold" hotmail.com>
Subject: [none]

Can anyone tell me how much a 1989 F150 with a 300 engine and the 5 speed
manual transmission is worth? It also has tilt steering wheel, power
steering, cruise control, air conditioning, and a cd player with great
quality sound(not bass, just clarity). The engine was rebuilt and only has
15,000 miles on it. The whole front end brake system was replaced. It has
a new rear end. I also just spent a $1,000 on fixing the air conditioning.
I can go on and on about all of the things a replaced on it. If anyone is
interested email me at bgerhold hotmail.com, if not then just email with a
suggested price.
Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 06:51:40 +1100
From: les williams cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Lubing the Chassis

Andy Norris wrote:

> Don't laugh.

I'm not.....

>
> Before anyone responds with RTFM or anything like that, I use my Chilton's
> manual a lot. And it's pretty sad how much it doesn't cover. Regarding
> chassis lubrication, there are two small paragraphs. And it refers me to
> the "lubrication chart". But I can't find any "lubrication chart" in my
> Chilton's.
>
> What do I need to do this? And where are the grease fittings on an '89 F250
> 2WD SC?
>
> There are a lot of things I'm probably neglecting since I've started doing
> more of the work myself.
>

Hey, look on the bright side, you could be paying sombody else to 'neglect' it
for you.
On the 2WD Twin-I-Beam front end of your era, the fortunate thing is there is
not many lube points, some of those depend on the type of b/joint used. I
wouldn't expect to find anymore than 4 on the rod and link assembly. The other
place to look is the tailshaft, and the number depend if it is a 1 or 2 piece
shaft. Look at the uni joints and the slip yoke. That should be about all. Now
how much do you pay for sombody to do that?
It's certainly nothing like the trucks of an earlier era, when you would expect
to find 30-35 points and use 1/2 bucket of Lube, just on the front end. Hmmm,
The wonders of Nolathane!

regards

Les
Lost in the Land of OZ

>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Andy Norris
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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 06:51:56 +1100
From: les williams cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:Exhaust Leak

Joe,
Try a shot or two of engine oil into the carby, and look for the blue oil
smoke, but more importantly, find and seal up the cracks/holes/rust etc, in
the floor or firewall, before you kill yourself !!
This list can't afford to loose active subscribers thru monoxide poisoning,
and/or hitting something bigger than you are.

regards

Les
Lost in the Land of OZ


BanksRVA aol.com wrote:

> Hey Folks, I got in my truck today, drove for about 30 minutes
> and my cab stunk of exhaust fumes. I tried, but can't find the
> leak. Any suggestions?
> Thank You,
> Joe
> 82 300 I-6
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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 06:52:30 +1100
From: les williams cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - C***y vs Ford

Hi Bill,
I note with interest, it was 'She' who found the C***Y. After some of the
comments that have preceded me, I guess you are now going to have to take
her aside for a little 're-education' concerning her, and the horses' future
mode of transport. ;-))
OK jokes aside, would you be offended if I inquired how much money was
involved ?
Purchase price of the C***y ? Purchase price of the F250 ?

Regards
Les
Lost in the Land of OZ

"a b" wrote:

> My wife's F-150 didn't make the millennial change-over I think due to a
> rod not being Y2k compatible. Anyhow, she has found a '96 C***y 1500
> with 350 5speed and 3:42 rear, as well as '94 125k mile F-250 diesel.
> I'm trying to figure out if the C***y will pull her horse/trailer at
> 2500lbs and can't remember what the rear ratio was in the F-150 (3:73
> maybe), and/or trying to find out what the final ratios are for the
> F-150 vs 1500. Somebody posted a link for ratio info once. I'm kinda
> leery of the F-250 'cause of the miles. Somebody once told me they last
> forever. I know the suspension would be better, but she puts probably
> 35k a year on a vehicle so it wouldn't be long till it was up to where
> the F-150 gave up (230,000). Which truck would you get?
> thanks,
> Bill
>
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 13:48:27 -0600
From: Bill G beapsy1.his.uab.edu>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - RE:C***y vs Ford

Thanks Fred! The consensus is leaning toward a diesel. Unfortunately, the one my
equestrian has in mind is a GMC with 6.5. Seems I recollect bad press over
converted gas to diesel 350ci cranks and heads. Maybe since this is a 400 (?) it
was made to be a diesel. It doesn't seem there is a GM list, certainly not as
helpful as this one. I have ruled out Dodge, but my criteria is whatever does
the job.
Bill G

Fred Moreno wrote:

> Hey Mr. Bill,
>
> .. cannot count the number of times I heard 'ol Joe has say '...damn!!! I
> wish I had a diesel...' -he's a retired Railroad engineer. Ol'Joe dreams of
> owning a Dudge (I know, I know...) or Ford with a diesel.
> 'Nuff said, and those are my two pesos.
>
> Phred, KD5AQB (How about that Ham restructuring issue?Yahoo!)
> La Union NM/El Paso TX
>
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 13:55:36 -0600
From: Bill G beapsy1.his.uab.edu>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - C***y vs Ford

'96 Cheyenne 1500 w/50K miles $11k; '94 F-250 w/125k miles $7k; '94 GMC 2500
6.5L w/64k $ 10k.

les williams wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> I note with interest, it was 'She' who found the C***Y. After some of the
> comments that have preceded me, I guess you are now going to have to take
> her aside for a little 're-education' concerning her, and the horses' future
> mode of transport. ;-))
> OK jokes aside, would you be offended if I inquired how much money was
> involved ?
> Purchase price of the C***y ? Purchase price of the F250 ?
>
> Regards
> Les
> Lost in the Land of OZ
>
> "a b" wrote:
>
> > My wife's F-150 didn't make the millennial change-over I think due to a
> > rod not being Y2k compatible. Anyhow, she has found a '96 C***y 1500
> > with 350 5speed and 3:42 rear, as well as '94 125k mile F-250 diesel.
> > I'm trying to figure out if the C***y will pull her horse/trailer at
> > 2500lbs and can't remember what the rear ratio was in the F-150 (3:73
> > maybe), and/or trying to find out what the final ratios are for the
> > F-150 vs 1500. Somebody posted a link for ratio info once. I'm kinda
> > leery of the F-250 'cause of the miles. Somebody once told me they last
> > forever. I know the suspension would be better, but she puts probably
> > 35k a year on a vehicle so it wouldn't be long till it was up to where
> > the F-150 gave up (230,000). Which truck would you get?
> > thanks,
> > Bill
> >
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 14:08:15 -0600
From: Andy Norris allenpress.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Lubing the Chassis / Funny Story

Thanks, Les.

Hopefully I can get this done tonight. Part of the reason I'm doing more
work on it myself these days comes from a sort of funny story from a couple
years ago...

I took my former truck to Wal-Mart to have them do the ~20 point oil change
service they have there... When it was done, the fellow behind the counter
rattled off a checklist of things they'd done to my truck:

him: Looks like we changed your oil, topped off the brake fluid, added air
to your tires, and topped off your power-steering fluid.

me: Did you charge the freon in my A/C?

him: That truck doesn't have air.

me: That truck doesn't have power steering, either! You have any idea where
you might have topped off the power steering I don't have???

Kinda scary.

Thanks again. More stupid questions to follow.

Andy Norris
North Oz



At 06:51 AM 1-6-00 +1100, you wrote:
>Andy Norris wrote:
>
> > Don't laugh.
>
>I'm not.....
>
> >
> > Before anyone responds with RTFM or anything like that, I use my Chilton's
> > manual a lot. And it's pretty sad how much it doesn't cover. Regarding
> > chassis lubrication, there are two small paragraphs. And it refers me to
> > the "lubrication chart". But I can't find any "lubrication chart" in my
> > Chilton's.
> >
> > What do I need to do this? And where are the grease fittings on an '89 F250
> > 2WD SC?
> >
> > There are a lot of things I'm probably neglecting since I've started doing
> > more of the work myself.
> >
>
>Hey, look on the bright side, you could be paying sombody else to 'neglect' it
>for you.
>On the 2WD Twin-I-Beam front end of your era, the fortunate thing is there is
>not many lube points, some of those depend on the type of b/joint used. I
>wouldn't expect to find anymore than 4 on the rod and link assembly. The other
>place to look is the tailshaft, and the number depend if it is a 1 or 2 piece
>shaft. Look at the uni joints and the slip yoke. That should be about
>all. Now
>how much do you pay for sombody to do that?
>It's certainly nothing like the trucks of an earlier era, when you would
>expect
>to find 30-35 points and use 1/2 bucket of Lube, just on the front end. Hmmm,
>The wonders of Nolathane!
>
>regards
>
>Les
>Lost in the Land of OZ
>
> >
> > Thanks for your help,
> >
> > Andy Norris
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:33:25 -0600
From: Mark E Reimers juno.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tranny

Christopher,

I've heard that if you put brake fluid in an auto, run it for a little
while, then change the fluid to rid the brake fluid, then the seals will
swell and you will be able to make it for a while. I've heard of one guy
that has put off a rebuild for two years now. Not sure how much brake
fluid you'd want to put in there though. Someone else on the list should
be able to help on that.

- - Mark Reimers KB9ODG
'66 Bronco 170 I-6, 3-speed, 3.5" suspension lift, 3" body lift, 35"
tires ...
'87 F-150 XLT 4x2 300 I-6, 4-speed, two working fuel tanks!(finally)


> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 20:54:38 PST
> From: "Christopher Worley" hotmail.com>
> Subject: FTE 80-96 - Tranny
>
> Greetings,
> My '93 F150 SC has a E40D that is slipping, my question is, is
> there
> anything such as an aditive that would prolong the life for a few
> more
> months, I know the end result will be a new tranny but I just can't
> afford
> it right now and my '67 F100 isn't road worthy yet.
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
> Christopher Worley
> Waxahachie, TX
> '93 F150 SC 351
> '67 F100 LWB 352
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:28:26 -0500
From: "The Lublin Family" tir.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Major Front end Drag....

Howdy.

On my '82 F-250 4X4 with the "twin traction beam" front end, I have noticed
that when the hubs are locked, the front end has a considerable amount of
drag....It acts like I am trying to push a brick wall down...The guy I
bought the truck from said he put new Warn hubs on the front... But it just
seems like its too tight in the front somehow...Any suggestions?

There is a guy I go to Church with who last winter swapped in a Dana 60
straight axle into a '90 F-250 4X4..He said it is a bolt in deal...Would it
be a bolt in deal if I stuck one of them in the truck?

Thanks for the Help!

Chris "Lube" Lublin
Lube's Auto.
lublin tir.com


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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:10:10 EST
From: BanksRVA aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Exhaust leak

Thanks for the "put a little oil in the carb" idea. The funny thing is that I
have been over the cab of this truck and I have fixed any rust there was. I
must have missed something that is allowing the exhaust to enter the cab.
Thanks for the advice!
Joe 82 F100 300 I-6
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:27:15 -0600
From: "Steve Schmeckpeper" sol.ee.lsu.edu>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re:

Ben.........Whatcha wanna sell it for if it's in good shape??
IMHO it's worth keeping 8^)
Smeck 87F150 (paid for)

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From: ben gerhold hotmail.com>
To: <80-96-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 1:20 PM


> Can anyone tell me how much a 1989 F150 with a 300 engine and the 5 speed
> manual transmission is worth? It also has tilt steering wheel, power
> steering, cruise control, air conditioning, and a cd player with great
> quality sound(not bass, just clarity). The engine was rebuilt and only
has
> 15,000 miles on it. The whole front end brake system was replaced. It
has
> a new rear end. I also just spent a $1,000 on fixing the air
conditioning.
> I can go on and on about all of the things a replaced on it. If anyone is
> interested email me at bgerhold hotmail.com, if not then just email with a
> suggested price.
> Thanks.
> ______________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:14:23 -0500
From: gary.lee juno.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Engines????

< Or put a 460 in your old F-150.>>

Hi Listers,
I have an 86 F250/460/auto. King cab and actually its in Great
condition. I love this truck. I spent the Holiday weekend replacing the
water pump. What a treat.
Aside from a few minor idle problems,(its in the shop for inspection
anyway. {NYC}
My enjoyment of this truck is only dampened by the LOW mileage I get in
the metro area. Or any area for that matter. I'm faced with selling the
truck this spring which I don't want to do. I know I won't be able to buy
as much truck as I'm selling with what I will get for it.
Its it out of the realm of reality to consider a diesel swap for the
460?. What is the short list of misery I would be faced with assuming I
could find an engine locally.
Other than that, is anyone looking for a great tow vehicle/loaded/brake
module etc etc?
Happy Ford New Year to ALL!!!!!!!

Gary
mailto:gary.leejuno.com

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:40:06 -0800 (PST)
From: 2insaneexcite.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Headers

With all this talk about headers i've decided to get a pair. I'm so far set
on a pair of Dynomax ones that i saw in JEGs. supposed to "designed for
lower rpm torque" and are about $95 i think excluding shipping.(not ceramic
painted). Any opinions about these? I think Blake (sorry if i'm wrong) said
something about these. Good? Bad? worked out ok?
After this i'd like to go split dual exhuast. h-pipe after the headers.
probobly 2 1/4 pipe out to 3 inch nice shiny tips. any opinions about this?
engines a 89 302. thanks much for any info or opinions.

DK





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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:16:53 EST
From: DJ250raol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: f 150 worth

i have a x cab 95 f.i.300 5 speed and its clean i wanted to trade it in and
dealre only wants to give me get this !!!! 5000. thats it so i know
how u feel 8(
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:19:42 EST
From: Lingus0169aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: ford 9"

hi can anyone tell me how much a used 9" rear would cost...estimate..it for a
friend..he has a do**e...i convinced him to run a 9"..
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:27:05 EST
From: Lingus0169aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers

hi DK,
i am also looking for cheap$ headers for a 351w...i am looking to reun dual
flowmaster 30's 0r 40's..bout 3" also..i prefer them to be "shorties", do to
the fact of them fitting right..any suggestions on which ones to use will be
appreciated
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:39:19 EST
From: Lingus0169aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 -

well my project is underway..but i have a question... how hard would it be
to put the flywheel and clutch in, if i already put the engine in?... and has
anyone put in power door locks and power windows in their truck, which had
neither? im curious to how hard it would be to do this..im working on making
my truck the beast...and being a beauty(for the ladies ,of course)
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:51:14 -0800
From: "Isaac Godsey" prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - C***y vs Ford

He said that his Ford did not make the millenium change over. Problem is,
C***y didn't make any change over, including the one from cars to trucks,
and if you want to own a truck that you have to be careful hauling stuff in,
and isn't reliable, and people laugh at, sure, take the c***y, but as for
me, I'm keepin my f-150!!!!



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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:53:30 -0800
From: "Isaac Godsey" prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - C...Y vs. Ford

You confused me with that one!!! lol

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From: Jerome Kelly webtv.net>
To: <80-96-listford-trucks.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 3:53 AM
Subject: FTE 80-96 - C...Y vs. Ford


> I can remember when we put bon animi in the 265 cu in to stop oil
> burning. They did
> well for a while in the early sixties. In the
> seventies it got so bad that the federal trade commission had to
> intervene with GM. The soft cams in the engines, and the 600 metric
> tranny. The little four cylinders that couldnt take heat and blow.
> Yes, they ripped me off one to many times. How bout the chevy 350s they
> put in Oldsmobiles. The plugged gas
> engines they passed for deseils. They
> are criminal type people in my book. To
> buy one of their products is to support crime. Yes they had to pay some
> people
> back and reimburse some. But with the
> money already in the bank, the interest would more than cover that.
> Ford has
> their problems and need to address the
> cracked manifold problems. The trade
> comission should require them to replace
> the manifolds at no cost. Being that the government sticks their nose
> in on free trade. They set a limit on big truck production and have a
> large tax on import trucks. If one needs a pickup truck, the consumer
> only have three to pick from.
> They have a captive market and could make an even worse product. All
> three
> have special problems. I stay with Ford
> because they don't lie as much as GM.
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:44:38 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki little-mountain.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers

>With all this talk about headers i've decided to get a pair. I'm so far set
>on a pair of Dynomax ones that i saw in JEGs. supposed to "designed for
>lower rpm torque" and are about $95 i think excluding shipping.(not ceramic
>painted). Any opinions about these? I think Blake (sorry if i'm wrong) said
>something about these. Good? Bad? worked out ok?
>After this i'd like to go split dual exhuast. h-pipe after the headers.
>probobly 2 1/4 pipe out to 3 inch nice shiny tips. any opinions about this?
>engines a 89 302. thanks much for any info or opinions.
>

Mine are JBA shorty headers. Not that cheap though. I am happy with them.

Are you going to run dual cats or no cats? I am running a 351 Y-pipe and
tandem cats that originally came on the Y-pipe. No muffler at all and it is
quiet.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:37:02 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki little-mountain.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Tranny probs

>Hey all,
> I have my dad's work truck 88 f150 4wd 5spd 5.0 EFI, and upon moving it to
>get more cars in the drive, put the truck in reverse let teh clutch out and
>the damn thing popped outta gear. i put it in first moved forward(to
>synchronize reverse gotta do it in the SHO most of the time)then tried
>reverse, same thing happens he gear grinded adn popped into netrual again.
>so my question here is, did reverse bite the proverbial dust or is it a
>linkage problem? if it's a linkage problem could someone e-mail me offlist
>with a quick lesson on how i can do it myself? I have done a little bit of
>reg maintence to this truck, it's normally on the job site so it gets the
>living daylights beat out of it i suppose. any help appreciated thaks
> Mike lopez jr.
>

There is no linkage, so I doubt it could be adjusted.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:08:16 EST
From: Lingus0169aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers

well i am going to run dual exhuast throughout, and ill probably have
cats..im just looking for an exhuast thats laud outside..but quiet
inside...gotta hear what the lady says..and the music
nick
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:42:00 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki little-mountain.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engines????

><
>Or put a 460 in your old F-150.>>
>
>Hi Listers,
> I have an 86 F250/460/auto. King cab and actually its in Great
>condition. I love this truck. I spent the Holiday weekend replacing the
>water pump. What a treat.
> Aside from a few minor idle problems,(its in the shop for inspection
>anyway. {NYC}
>My enjoyment of this truck is only dampened by the LOW mileage I get in
>the metro area. Or any area for that matter. I'm faced with selling the
>truck this spring which I don't want to do. I know I won't be able to buy
>as much truck as I'm selling with what I will get for it.
> Its it out of the realm of reality to consider a diesel swap for the
>460?. What is the short list of misery I would be faced with assuming I
>could find an engine locally.
> Other than that, is anyone looking for a great tow vehicle/loaded/brake
>module etc etc?
>Happy Ford New Year to ALL!!!!!!!

If you use the Ford/International engines, you may not see too much fuel
milage increase. If you are going to do a complete swap, look for a B model
Cummins, such as used in a Dodge.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:36:39 -0500
From: Blake Malkamaki little-mountain.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Headers

>well i am going to run dual exhuast throughout, and ill probably have
>cats..im just looking for an exhuast thats laud outside..but quiet
>inside...gotta hear what the lady says..and the music
>nick

The tandem cats with no muffler gives a nice bark under load, but basically
quiet.


Blake
Little Mountain
Concord, Ohio
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http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://little-mountain.com/blake
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:46:21 -0600
From: "Harris, Scott" dfwairport.com>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - power windows and doors

I know I've seen aftermarket power units(can't recall where) for manual
windows but you might check wrecking yard for the assemblies and if ends up
being complicated try changing the whole door!(of course calls for a paint
job...)

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From: Lingus0169aol.com [mailto:Lingus0169aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:39 PM
To: 80-96-listford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 -


well my project is underway..but i have a question... how hard would it be
to put the flywheel and clutch in, if i already put the engine in?... and
has
anyone put in power door locks and power windows in their truck, which had
neither? im curious to how hard it would be to do this..im working on making

my truck the beast...and being a beauty(for the ladies ,of course)
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 23:43:06 -0800
From: Pat Brown sonic.net>
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Late model Auto Hubs (Removal)

Hi All,

I'm trying to find an intermittent squeal in my '96 Bronco,
which I'm thinking is the auto hubs. I'm planning on some
Warn premium hubs soon, but Friday I'm headed off to the
Sierras for three days of skiing, so tonight I went out
to check the existing hubs out (~40k miles).

Armed with instructions on hub disassembly, I quickly
realized I had the wrong instructions. After removing
the cover (three torx screws), there was no apparent way
to remove the drive hubs from the wheel hub. No clips,
no screws, not even any holes in the casting to see
what's going on :-(.

Anyone know the secret?

These are the late model hubs (95-ish and up), three screw
cover as opposed to the earlier models with 5 screws.

Thanks Much,
- --
Pat Brown sonic.net> '70 F250 Crew Cab FE360/T18
Sebastopol, California '96 Bronco EB 351/E4OD '87 Baby Bronco 2.9l
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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 20:40:14 +1100
From: les williams cyber.net.au>
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - C...Y vs. Ford

Hi Jerome,
Now, don't hold back, will you ! Tell us, - exactly whats wrong with GM ?
;-))

regards
Les
Lost in OZ

Jerome Kelly wrote:

> I can remember when we put bon animi in the 265 cu in to stop oil
> burning. They did
> well for a while in the early sixties. In the
> seventies it got so bad that the federal trade commission had to
> intervene with GM. The soft cams in the engines, and the 600 metric
> tranny. The little four cylinders that couldnt take heat and blow.
> Yes, they ripped me off one to many times. How bout the chevy 350s they
> put in Oldsmobiles. The plugged gas
> engines they passed for deseils. They
> are criminal type people in my book. To
> buy one of their products is to support crime. Yes they had to pay some
> people
> back and reimburse some. But with the
> money already in the bank, the interest would more than cover that.
> Ford has
> their problems and need to address the
> cracked manifold problems. The trade
> comission should require them to replace
> the manifolds at no cost. Being that the government sticks their nose
> in on free trade. They set a limit on big truck production and have a
> large tax on import trucks. If one needs a pickup truck, the consumer
> only have three to pick from.
> They have a captive market and could make an even worse product. All
> three
> have special problems. I stay with Ford
> because they don't lie as much as GM.
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://community.webtv.net/DBblueboy/DayBreakblueboyblue
>
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