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80-96-list Digest Thu, 25 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 097

In This Issue:
Starter or Snakebit pt.2
Vacuum gauge uses
Re: Towing with an F-350
Temp Sending Unit
Re: Towing with an F350
Re: Engine Swap
Re: Engine Swap
Re: Starter or Snakebit pt.2
Dome light remains on
Re: Towing with an F350
Re: Towing with an F350
Re: Towing with an F350
Re: Starter or Snakebit pt.2
Re: Starter or Snakebit pt.2
Re: 4.9L gas mileage

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From: "Moe Gendron" ev1.net>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 21:49:24 -0500
Subject: Starter or Snakebit pt.2

Dangit!
Well crap, my starter just quit. Some of you might
remember I was havin a hellofatime with rebuilt starters (went thru 7)
and I bought a new "superstarter" ($200+) from Ford about 6 mos.
ago. Thought my problem was over but the other day she turned
over a little slow but I didn't think anything of it. Well tonite I was
havin trouble (carb. adjustment was useless) with the idle and I
wanted to check the distributor at TDC and to see if the timing was
off any, so I hooked up my remote starter switch to the selinoid on
the fender, bumped it a couple of times and noticed the ground
cable coming off the battery was gettin warm, then I noticed the
ground wire to the fender was smoking! (small 16 gauge wire off the
ground cable to the back of the selinoid) I took of that wire and tried
the key, clickedy click click, like a dead battery would sound,
checked the voltage on the battery and she reads 13vdc. I shut the
hood and came inside, before I got the gas can and caused a
neighborhood scene. The motor, for those who don't remember is a
95 crate 302HO, new AFB, new everything I could replace, there
are no junky parts on this truck and I'm gettin tired of workin on it. I
guess I should have left the 300/6 in it and just burnt it up. There's a
late model "Chebby" down the street for sale that's starting to look
pretty good, if it was a extended cab I'd stop and check it out.
Shame on me Huh?

Any Ideas? I've got 5000mi. on the superstarter, It's most likely the
selinoid on the starter, but why? and "why me?"

Moe
pissed off in Houston

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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 20:36:16 -0700
From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Vacuum gauge uses

Just found out tonight that the blvd I have been driving for the past 13 years
has a slight drop when traveling East. The vacuum gauge I just put in the
truck the other night reads 15" at 45mph steady when going to the auto store.
It reads 20" at the same speed when coming back from said store.
Doncha just love little tidbits and newfound uses for gadgets??
Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
86 F150 300 cu in six banger
FAX 1-310-822-6815


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From: BRIGANDBAR aol.com
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 23:48:14 EDT
Subject: Re: Towing with an F-350

In a message dated 5/25/2000 9:51:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
listar ford-trucks.com writes:

<< If my stepson's car is ready I'll be towing that back too. The car is a 67
Porsche 912(?). >>

Tim:

After trailering cars around the country behind my F-350 (4x4CC Powerstroke)
many times, I would have to say, without question, trailer the P-car. I
wouldn't even consider a tow dolly or flat towing.

Steve

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Subject: Temp Sending Unit
From: craig n eggerman juno.com>
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 00:13:33 EDT

Anybody know where the temp sending unit is on an 89 460 fuel injected
E350? I want to replace it with a new temp gauge and sending unit. Ford
service tech said the temp gauge and sender might control some of the
emissions stuff. anybody in the know on this? He said too T the new one
in with the old one or put the new sender in a different spot. Anybody
done this?
Craig
Eggermanjuno.com
Casper,Wyoming
O|||||O

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From: "Mark Salvetti" mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Towing with an F350
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 01:12:26 -0400

Hi Tim. When you say your stepson's 912 will be "ready", do you mean
restored? At the very least I would go with a flatbed trailer, but you have
to be careful loading the car to get it balanced properly, with the engine
in the back and all. You might consider backing it on.

You might also consider having it shipped. May not be as much as you think,
especially considering the nuisance of doing it yourself, and the additional
fuel you'll need. Check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.buxtonmotorsports.com/links.htm
(about half way down) for some companies to try.

And make sure your stepson visits http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rennlist.org/ and joins the 912
mailing list. There's also one for early 911's ('65-'73, almost identical
to his 912). I don't know how much traffic those lists have, but I suggest
starting in digest mode. The digest for the main 911 list (1965 to present)
is usually over 100 messages a day.

Have a good trip.

Mark Salvetti
1986 F150
1979 911SC Targa


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From: "Bruce C. Anderson" cableone.net>
Subject: Re: Engine Swap
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 20:57:50 -0700

Howdy Bob

----- Original Message -----
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Engine Swap


> 29" from bell housing flange to harmonic balancer pulley.


Thanks, Just went out and measured the Trooper, its 30 inches from the
firewall to the radiator mount.

See Ya

Bruce

Prescott Valley, AZ USA

www.cableone.net/bcanderson


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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 23:21:12 -0700
From: Jason Derra internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: Engine Swap

Pulley mount? Do you mean water pump? I can measure tomorrow for you if you'd
like.
I've got my 5.0 out of the Bronco hanging on my hoist ready to go back in
tomorrow night.
Jason

Bruce C. Anderson wrote:

> Howdy Bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Engine Swap
>
> > It's holding up very nicely in our family truckster, Ford Explorer XLT,
> 1993,
> > 4.0L A4LD transmission, 101K miles.
>
> Hey, don't get me wrong, I really don't know a thing about it. A guy at
> a shop told me that. Since I have no personal experience, I have to ask.
>
> But while I have you, do you know the length of an assembled 5.0L
> engine, from the back of the cylinder head, to the front of the Pulley
> mount?
>
> Bruce
>
> Prescott Valley, AZ USA
>
> www.cableone.net/bcanderson
>
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From: "Steve Schmeckpeper" home.com>
Subject: Re: Starter or Snakebit pt.2
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 06:58:36 -0500

Moe,
The odds of getting that many 'bad' starters are astronomical. You probably
got a voltage drop across one or more of your battery/starter cables.
Replace 'em with BIG ones!
And, since cables are cheap...........why not replace them all? Low voltage
will burn out a starter motor EVERY time.

My .02
Smeck

-----Original Message-----
From: 80-96-list-bounceford-trucks.com
[mailto:80-96-list-bounceford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Moe Gendron
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:49 PM
To: 80-96-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Starter or Snakebit pt.2


Dangit!
Well crap, my starter just quit. Some of you might
remember I was havin a hellofatime with rebuilt starters (went thru 7)
and I bought a new "superstarter" ($200+) from Ford about 6 mos.
ago. Thought my problem was over but the other day she turned
over a little slow but I didn't think anything of it. Well tonite I was
havin trouble (carb. adjustment was useless) with the idle and I
wanted to check the distributor at TDC and to see if the timing was
off any, so I hooked up my remote starter switch to the selinoid on
the fender, bumped it a couple of times and noticed the ground
cable coming off the battery was gettin warm, then I noticed the
ground wire to the fender was smoking! (small 16 gauge wire off the
ground cable to the back of the selinoid) I took of that wire and tried
the key, clickedy click click, like a dead battery would sound,
checked the voltage on the battery and she reads 13vdc. I shut the
hood and came inside, before I got the gas can and caused a
neighborhood scene. The motor, for those who don't remember is a
95 crate 302HO, new AFB, new everything I could replace, there
are no junky parts on this truck and I'm gettin tired of workin on it. I
guess I should have left the 300/6 in it and just burnt it up. There's a
late model "Chebby" down the street for sale that's starting to look
pretty good, if it was a extended cab I'd stop and check it out.
Shame on me Huh?

Any Ideas? I've got 5000mi. on the superstarter, It's most likely the
selinoid on the starter, but why? and "why me?"

Moe
pissed off in Houston
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:48:00 -0400
From: Allen Baldwin sentex.ca>
Subject: Dome light remains on

Same problem with my 95 Ranger which turned out to be the electrical
switch inside the drivers side door at the latch had become unplugged
from its electrical harness. Not too difficult to correct.
Allen


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From: Lwskywalkaol.com
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 11:16:17 EDT
Subject: Re: Towing with an F350

dont use a dolly i towed a thunderbird with one wasnt fun. i used u haul get
a trailer if you can alot better

luke
94 f150
351

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From: Lwskywalkaol.com
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 11:16:02 EDT
Subject: Re: Towing with an F350

dont use a dolly i towed a thunderbird with one wasnt fun. i used u haul get
a trailer if you can alot better

luke
94 f150
351

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From: "Mark Corboy" mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Towing with an F350
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:30:02 -0500

2 cents worth,
Don't use a dolly.
Everything under a Porsche is extreamly expensive.
The age of porsche makes it a valuable car.
When we tow something that expensive (our scca race car) we use a 4 wheel
trailer that has a shield for the front of the trailer. Looks like a wind
blocker
Uhaul has these in Texas.
-----Original Message-----
From: 80-96-list-bounceford-trucks.com
[mailto:80-96-list-bounceford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Ledskiaol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 3:31 PM
To: 80-96-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [80-96-list] Towing with an F350


Well, little more than I week and I fly out to Washington State from Ohio to
buy my father-in-laws truck and camper. A 94 F 350 SC dually with the 460
(get this..14,000 miles) and a 12 ft Caribou camper (3000 lbs?) in the bed.
If my stepson's car is ready I'll be towing that back too. The car is a 67
Porsche 912(?).
Anyone have any good advice on how to tow that? With a Dolly, or Trailer
(Penske? or Uhaul?)
The Hitch has a 48" extension and according to the camper manual the
extension can be bolted to the bottom of the camper bumper. There are holes
there; I looked last time out.

With just the camper we got 8 1/2 mpg last month so I'll probably have to
get
a loan to buy gas on the trip back.

Tim
94 EB Explorer
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From: Spruce1495aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 20:28:33 EDT
Subject: Re: Starter or Snakebit pt.2

And by all means check all connections. Sandpaper or scotchbtite any bolted
connections and use some non oxidizing paste on them. DC is odd stuff,
voltage drop, amperage and all that stuff!

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From: Spruce1495aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 20:28:50 EDT
Subject: Re: Starter or Snakebit pt.2

And by all means check all connections. Sandpaper or scotchbtite any bolted
connections and use some non oxidizing paste on them. DC is odd stuff,
voltage drop, amperage and all that stuff!

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From: kb9odg.markjuno.com
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 19:18:21 -0500
Subject: Re: 4.9L gas mileage

I'm getting anywhere from 12 to 14 with my '87 300 EFI. I have a really
bad exhaust problem though, it pops like something else, so I'm thinking
I need to fix something.

- Mark Reimers KB9ODG
'66 Bronco 170 I-6, 3-speed, 3.5" suspension lift, 3" body lift, 35"
tires ...
with an '88 5.0L and AOD waiting to go in!
'87 F-150 XLT 4x2 300 I-6, 4-speed, straight pipe...


> Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:56:25 -0700
> From: chuck sanborn deltanet.com>
> Subject: 4.9L gas mileage
>
> Can I get the six banger groups gas mileage...?
> I have filled this truck now 4 times since getting
> the carb rebuilt and smogged and I am averaging
> 10.5 MPG. This sux! I'd be better off putting in
> a 351W.
> Thanks,
> Chuck
> Chuck Sanborn
> Torrance, CA
> 86 F150 300 cu in six banger
> FAX 1-310-822-6815
>
>
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