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80-96-list Digest Wed, 24 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 096

In This Issue:
Re: Dome light remains on
Re: Dome light remains on
Re: Dome light remains on
Engine Swap
Re: Engine Swap
Re: Engine Swap
Re: Engine Swap
Re: Dome light remains on
Re: MSD 5 and potential modifications
Towing with an F350
Re: Towing with an F350
Re: Towing with an F350
Re: Towing with an F350
Re: MSD 5 and potential modifications
Re: Engine Swap
Re: Engine Swap
Re: Engine Swap
Re: Engine Swap

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Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 20:13:45 -0700
From: Marv & Marge lafn.org>
Subject: Re: Dome light remains on

Emil, AKA flagship worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> The dome light (and outside back light) on my 94 F-150 remains on even
> with the doors closed.

Let's try it the easy way first.
You haven't, inadvertantly, rotated the headlight switch knob to the full
counter-clockwise (or anti-clockwise) position, have you?
-Marv-

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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 00:43:13 -0400
From: flagship worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Dome light remains on

Yep, made sure that wasn't a problem.

Marv & Marge wrote:
>
> Emil, AKA flagship worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > The dome light (and outside back light) on my 94 F-150 remains on even
> > with the doors closed.
>
> Let's try it the easy way first.
> You haven't, inadvertantly, rotated the headlight switch knob to the full
> counter-clockwise (or anti-clockwise) position, have you?
> -Marv-
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From: rokkinhorse

webtv.net
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 22:24:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Dome light remains on

<< The dome light (and outside back light) on my 94 F-150 remains on
even with the doors closed. I've seen failures of the switch before but
it always failed in the off position. Anyone have this specific problem
before?
Emil >> Sure
did,Emil. It turned out to ba a bad door switch. It was broken inside
the switch and wouldn't disengage,even though the spring was OK,the
contacts were stuck closed.

Randy Goolsby, '94 Eddie Bauer

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From: "Bruce C. Anderson" cableone.net>
Subject: Engine Swap
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 07:09:18 -0700

Howdy

Reference my request for information on Ford engines to Swap into my Isuzu Trooper, I saw a Thunderbird in the salvage yard, that has a 3.8L V-6. The Thunderbird is a mid-80s model. It would be an easier package to install than the 5.0L, and probably have sufficient power for me. Does any body know any thing about this engine?? Does it have a good reliability record? Is it Port injected?? What 4WD transmissions/transfer cases would bolt to this engine?

Thanks

Bruce

Prescott Valley, AZ USA

www.cableone.net/bcanderson

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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 07:29:30 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Engine Swap

There is no 4WD transmission that will bolt to the 3.8L. It was never an option.
If you are looking to go V6, find an Explorer with the 4.0 V6, A4LD transmission and the BW transfer case.

Bob

"Bruce C. Anderson" wrote:

> Howdy
>
> Reference my request for information on Ford engines to Swap into my Isuzu Trooper, I saw a Thunderbird in the salvage yard, that has a 3.8L V-6. The Thunderbird is a mid-80s model. It would be an easier package to install than the 5.0L, and probably have sufficient power for me. Does any body know any thing about this engine?? Does it have a good reliability record? Is it Port injected?? What 4WD transmissions/transfer cases would bolt to this engine?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
>
> Prescott Valley, AZ USA
>
> www.cableone.net/bcanderson
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From: "Bruce C. Anderson" cableone.net>
Subject: Re: Engine Swap
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 07:50:48 -0700

Howdy Bob

----- Original Message -----
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Engine Swap

> There is no 4WD transmission that will bolt to the 3.8L. It was never an
option.
> If you are looking to go V6, find an Explorer with the 4.0 V6, A4LD
transmission and the BW transfer case.

Oh well, the attractive part about it is that I could have gotten it
CHEAP!...:)

Thanks

Bruce

Prescott Valley, AZ USA

www.cableone.net/bcanderson

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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 08:03:30 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Engine Swap

Howdy Bruce,

Good luck.

Bob

"Bruce C. Anderson" wrote:

> Howdy Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Engine Swap
>
> > There is no 4WD transmission that will bolt to the 3.8L. It was never an
> option.
> > If you are looking to go V6, find an Explorer with the 4.0 V6, A4LD
> transmission and the BW transfer case.
>
> Oh well, the attractive part about it is that I could have gotten it
> CHEAP!...:)
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
>
> Prescott Valley, AZ USA
>
> www.cableone.net/bcanderson
>
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webtv.net wrote:
>
> << The dome light (and outside back light) on my 94 F-150 remains on
> even with the doors closed. I've seen failures of the switch before but
> it always failed in the off position. Anyone have this specific problem
> before?
> Emil >> Sure
> did,Emil. It turned out to ba a bad door switch. It was broken inside
> the switch and wouldn't disengage,even though the spring was OK,the
> contacts were stuck closed.
>
> Randy Goolsby, '94 Eddie Bauer
>
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From: Fred Moreno dualcurve.com>
Subject: Re: MSD 5 and potential modifications
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:42:29 -0600

Bill wrote:

I have no imagination. I tune it to the specs on the sticker under
the
hood.

Occasionally I consider advancing it to 8 or even 10 degrees BTDC,
and
maybe even opening the plug gaps another .010, but inertia or good
sense
eventually stops me. Inertia is the more likely.

Question for Phred: with an MSD5 installed, would these base timing
advances (or the spark gap increase) be of any benefit to the 300I6
(carbureted by Carter), or am I following the rosy road to
detonation?

Hey Mr. Bill,

Having the MSD installed only increases the spark energy output, so please
do not advance the ignition timing beyond any value one might do with just a
stock ignition system ie, plus or minus 2 degrees.

However on this point let loose Bill, because now that you have
transformed each spark plug into a little arc welder, you can safely
increase the spark plug gap 0.010 to 0.015 inches. This is not a required
change but why not?
I would not increase the gap beyond 0.010 because even though you can go
wider without performance problems, you will certainly start generating more
RF energy. RF energy (aka noise) is something we usually don't hear, but any
electronic device is irritated by it. The more noise a source generates, the
more the electronic device is irritated, and eventually its performance is
affected.

What does this mean? Your vehicle will be radiating (transmitting) this
noisy signal and for example your radio's antenna will pick it up (as well
as any wire, PC board, connector...), and it will become noticable
especially if you listen to AM broadcast like I do.

But more important than the radio, is the vehicles on-board computer. Now
these are fairly well protected against RF interference/noise, because of
the OEM requirements. But in some of our R&D trials developing new Alternate
Fuels electronic boxes we have caused ourselves major headaches where the
OEM PCM would just do wild things.
Sometimes the effect of RF noise on the PCM is an intermittent hiccup
causing a backfire, sometimes a Check Engine Light and fault code...with no
'symptom' - figure that one out, no wonder there are a lot of bald engineers
in the world, and I thougth it was caused by all the math they had to go
through...
At one time we were able to instantly shut down a running engine (idling or
under full load) by connecting one key feature we needed to suit our needs.
COOL!!! Watch for law enforcement agencies using such devices that will do
this to any PCM equipped vehicle trying to escape the long arm of the law.
Just direct it at the car in question, it will 'blind' the PCM with noise
and it becomes instantly parked. Theoretically it could happen.

Enough ramblin, my point is don't gap your plugs toooo big, but do
experiment a little. Leave the timing alone.

Phred
1995 4X4 propane or gasoline fed 5.0L with a 5 speed, 180K miles Bilsteins
on all four, MSD 6, 31X10.5 BFG AT.

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From: Ledski

aol.com
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:30:53 EDT
Subject: Towing with an F350

Well, little more than I week and I fly out to Washington State from Ohio to
buy my father-in-laws truck and camper. A 94 F 350 SC dually with the 460
(get this..14,000 miles) and a 12 ft Caribou camper (3000 lbs?) in the bed.
If my stepson's car is ready I'll be towing that back too. The car is a 67
Porsche 912(?).
Anyone have any good advice on how to tow that? With a Dolly, or Trailer
(Penske? or Uhaul?)
The Hitch has a 48" extension and according to the camper manual the
extension can be bolted to the bottom of the camper bumper. There are holes
there; I looked last time out.

With just the camper we got 8 1/2 mpg last month so I'll probably have to get
a loan to buy gas on the trip back.

Tim
94 EB Explorer

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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:57:10 -0700
From: Chuck Sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: Towing with an F350

At 04:30 PM 5/25/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Anyone have any good advice on how to tow that? With a Dolly, or Trailer
>(Penske? or Uhaul?)

Considering the low stance of the Porche, I would use a flat bed.
You risk the underside of the car otherwise. Yuk...8 1/2 MPG.
Your right, better get an equity line of credit. At least that will
be tax deductible (check with your tax preparer) :-)

Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
1986 F150 six banger

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From: PSales264

aol.com
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:02:55 EDT
Subject: Re: Towing with an F350

If you can afford to Buy a trailer out there and trailer it home (better for
the Porsche). Then sell the nearly new trailer at home. Yes, buy MOBIL stock
before you go. HAHA.PHIL

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From: "Jeff Fairbairn" cyberus.ca>
Subject: Re: Towing with an F350
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:02:29 -0400

I used a dolly once and the car slipped off of it. Use a flatbed trailer.

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Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Towing with an F350

At 04:30 PM 5/25/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Anyone have any good advice on how to tow that? With a Dolly, or Trailer
>(Penske? or Uhaul?)

Considering the low stance of the Porche, I would use a flat bed.
You risk the underside of the car otherwise. Yuk...8 1/2 MPG.
Your right, better get an equity line of credit. At least that will
be tax deductible (check with your tax preparer) :-)

Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
1986 F150 six banger

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From: berninghausen2

juno.com
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:23:41 -0700
Subject: Re: MSD 5 and potential modifications

Phred wrote:

> I would not increase the gap beyond 0.010 because even though you
> can go
> wider without performance problems, you will certainly start
> generating more
> RF energy.
and it will become noticable
> especially if you listen to AM broadcast like I do.
>
> But more important than the radio, is the vehicles on-board
> computer.

One of the best things about my 82 is that it was Y2K compliant all
along--can't count the Duraspark as a computer! Big gaps, here I come
(don't need no stinkin computers).

Thanks

Bill
________________________________________________________________

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From: "Bruce C. Anderson" cableone.net>
Subject: Re: Engine Swap
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:20:38 -0700

Howdy Bob

----- Original Message -----
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Engine Swap

> There is no 4WD transmission that will bolt to the 3.8L. It was never an
option.
> If you are looking to go V6, find an Explorer with the 4.0 V6, A4LD
transmission and the BW transfer case.

I heard that the A4LD wasn't a very strong tranny??

Thanks

Bruce

Prescott Valley, AZ USA

www.cableone.net/bcanderson

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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 18:55:11 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Engine Swap

It's holding up very nicely in our family truckster, Ford Explorer XLT, 1993,
4.0L A4LD transmission, 101K miles.

Bob

"Bruce C. Anderson" wrote:

> Howdy Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Engine Swap
>
> > There is no 4WD transmission that will bolt to the 3.8L. It was never an
> option.
> > If you are looking to go V6, find an Explorer with the 4.0 V6, A4LD
> transmission and the BW transfer case.
>
> I heard that the A4LD wasn't a very strong tranny??
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
>
> Prescott Valley, AZ USA
>
> www.cableone.net/bcanderson
>
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From: "Bruce C. Anderson" cableone.net>
Subject: Re: Engine Swap
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 19:21:25 -0700

Howdy Bob
----- Original Message -----
Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Engine Swap

> It's holding up very nicely in our family truckster, Ford Explorer XLT,
1993,
> 4.0L A4LD transmission, 101K miles.

Hey, don't get me wrong, I really don't know a thing about it. A guy at
a shop told me that. Since I have no personal experience, I have to ask.

But while I have you, do you know the length of an assembled 5.0L
engine, from the back of the cylinder head, to the front of the Pulley
mount?

Bruce

Prescott Valley, AZ USA

www.cableone.net/bcanderson

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Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 19:49:13 -0700
From: Bob Kennedy uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Engine Swap

29" from bell housing flange to harmonic balancer pulley.

Bob

"Bruce C. Anderson" wrote:

> Howdy Bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> Subject: [80-96-list] Re: Engine Swap
>
> > It's holding up very nicely in our family truckster, Ford Explorer XLT,
> 1993,
> > 4.0L A4LD transmission, 101K miles.
>
> Hey, don't get me wrong, I really don't know a thing about it. A guy at
> a shop told me that. Since I have no personal experience, I have to ask.
>
> But while I have you, do you know the length of an assembled 5.0L
> engine, from the back of the cylinder head, to the front of the Pulley
> mount?
>
> Bruce
>
> Prescott Valley, AZ USA
>
> www.cableone.net/bcanderson
>
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