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80-96-list Digest Mon, 22 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 094

In This Issue:
Re: 4.9L Gas mileage
Re: 4.9L Gas mileage
Re: Fuel consumption
Firing order
Re: Firing order
94 Ranger Lift kit
Re: Firing order
Re: 80 Ford F250 351 M - Choke Heater - Question
4.9 complaints
Re: 4.9L Gas mileage
Re: 94 Ranger Lift kit
Re: Reverse Lights
Re: 4.9L gas mileage/ vibration
Re: 4.9L gas mileage/ vibration
Re: 4.9L gas mileage/ vibration

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From: DTrowbridge webtv.net (David Trowbridge)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 10:13:01 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: 4.9L Gas mileage

i own an 85 F-150 300 I6 with 2.47s and a 3 speed C-4 auto and in town i
get about 12mpg. on the highway i get about 15-17mpg. i have also been
comtemplating the idea of installing headers along with a 4 barrel
intake and 390cfm carb. this setup looks like it flows much better than
the stock 1 barrel setup, so i would think i ould get better mileage if
i kept my foot out of it. has anyone had any exeriance with this setup?

David
85 F-150 300 I6


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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:37:51 -0700
From: Chuck Sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: 4.9L Gas mileage

I am really getting depressed with this gas mileage dilemma...
I can put in a 4-speed and swap the 3.08's for 2.47's, that is if
I can use the 4-speed from a 289. What is the difference between
the T-10 and the T-18/19? Just different gear ratios? Or are they
supposedly stronger?
Thanks,
Chuck
Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
1986 F150 six banger


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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:51:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption
From: John A Musolino juno.com>

James Mc Gregor writes:

>I operate an 1981 300I6 but a salesmen who tried to sell me a
>1993 F150 351efi 4wd claimed that this engine was good for
>8km /litre (this is around 22 mpg).Is this accurate.

I have a '96 F-150 351EFI 4wd, and I get about 12mpg around town, and
14-15 on the highway.

Moose
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From: "mark" zoomtown.com>
Subject: Firing order
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:46:47 -0400

Here is a real no brainer and I don't have one.
What is the firing order for a 4.9 I-6?
Thanks,
Mark


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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 10:18:29 -0700
From: Chuck Sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: Firing order

At 12:46 PM 5/22/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Here is a real no brainer and I don't have one.
>What is the firing order for a 4.9 I-6?
>Thanks,
>Mark

1-5-3-6-2-4
Chuck Sanborn
Torrance, CA
1986 F150 six banger


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From: falcon wmmrmail.com
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:02:53 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: 94 Ranger Lift kit

I have a 94 Ranger XLT 2x4 and I am looking to install a 3" body lift. Dowsa anyone have any thoughts (Pro's & Cons) to this?

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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:10:03 -0700
From: Jason Derra internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: Firing order

1-5-3-6-2-4
Jason

mark wrote:

> Here is a real no brainer and I don't have one.
> What is the firing order for a 4.9 I-6?
> Thanks,
> Mark
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From: "Dave Resch" sybase.com>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:14:22 -0600
Subject: Re: 80 Ford F250 351 M - Choke Heater - Question


>From: Dick Hughes magi.com>
>
>Truck is equipped with a thermostatic spring
>housing which controls the choke action.
>
>Choke plate is not opening fully.
>
snip
>
>Question:
>How is the air drawn into the choke heater
>inlet tube? Is is done by vacumn? The inlet
>tube of the choke heater attaches to the main
>body of the carb.
>
>I am assuming that the air is drawn into the
>heater through the passageway in the body
>of the carb.

Yo Dick:

The inlet for the choke heater air attaches to the underside of the airhorn,
which is the part of the carb that the air cleaner housing sits on.

Your assumption is correct. An air passage connects between the right side of
the carb body and the choke housing, drawing air through the heater tubes.
Having the inlet opening inside the air cleaner prevents unfiltered air from
being drawn into the carb.

In addition to the warm air drawn over the choke thermostat through the choke
heater, you should have a "hot" (+12V) wire attached to a terminal lug on the
thermostat housing. This heats the thermostat electrically, so that even in
extreme cold conditions, the thermostat will open after the engine has run a
while.

There are two possible solutions to the choke plate not opening completely:

1) Reposition choke thermostat. Rotate the spring (thermostat) housing toward
the "lean" position. You should then test choke function at cooler temps
(50-60F or less) to verify that the choke closes completely. If the spring
doesn't have enough movement to open and close the choke properly, you need to
replace the thermostat unit.

2) Sometimes an external spring on the pull-down rod fights against the
thermostat spring. Not all pull-down units have an external spring on them, but
some aftermarket jobs have a small coil spring that's supposed to keep the choke
linkage from binding in the slotted pull-down rod. You could try removing or
disabling the pull-down rod spring. OTOH, if the choke thermostat can't
overcome this little spring on the pull-down rod, it might be time to replace
the choke thermostat.

Good luck.

Dave R (M-block devotee)



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From: "Hummer Luvver" hotmail.com>
Subject: 4.9 complaints
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:05:33 GMT

I'm a rowing coach, so I do plenty of towing(launches for other coaches, and
even the boats we race in). I have an '88 F-150 XLT Lariat with the 4.9 and
I honestly can't think of a time that I've wished I had more power. I don't
"hot rod" my truck, and I've taken good care of it. I'm up to 247k on the
original engine and 5-spd tranny. The reason I'm writting this, is because
I think that sometimes we take for granted what we have in this engine. One
of the other coaches has a '94 Chevy 1500 with a V-6. He does just as much
towing as I do, and I have even done some towing with his truck. It doesn't
take a long to realize the difference. Some others that have ridden with
both of us while we are pulling trailers have commented on the exceptional
difference(just so you know it's not a Ford byassed opinion). Most of the
stuff we pull is in the 4k range. I also drove a dog of a 1500 for a
construction job I had a few years ago. It stranded me twice. Once was
just after coming out of the shop. I'm sure there are some good chevys out
there, and I've seen some bad Fords, but my 4.9 hasn't let me down yet.
Whether it's pulling one of my friends home, or hauling a trailor for the
rowing club, it's still running strong.---Nathan
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From: FULSZBRONC aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:36:53 EDT
Subject: Re: 4.9L Gas mileage


<<<<< ........comtemplating the idea of installing headers along with a 4
barrel
intake and 390cfm carb. this setup looks like it flows much better than
the stock 1 barrel setup, so i would think i ould get better mileage if
i kept my foot out of it. has anyone had any exeriance with this setup?

David
85 F-150 300 I6 >>>>>

Admittedly, I don't have any first hand experience with removing the 1 bbl.
carb off a 300 I6 and replacing it with a 4 bbl., but anytime I've modified
a fuel and exhaust system to flow better, it did flow better! Both air AND
fuel. I'm sure you can get better response and increased power with your
proposed modifications, but I doubt you will help the fuel economy.
Just my 2 cents
Alex

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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:11:23 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: 94 Ranger Lift kit

At 03:02 PM 5/22/00 , you wrote:
>I have a 94 Ranger XLT 2x4 and I am looking to install a 3" body lift. Dowsa anyone have any thoughts (Pro's & Cons) to this?

Might get a better response on our Ranger/Bronco II/Aerostar/Explorer mailing list than this one. :-)

Ken



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From: BanksRVAaol.com
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:35:11 EDT
Subject: Re: Reverse Lights

Someone please help!
My reverse lights on my 82 Econoline 350 don't work. The switch is hooked to
the tranny and has a long cord attaching to a plug under the hood. I
unplugged it and jumped the wires and the reverse lights work. So I figure
it's the switch right? I go to the junk yard and get another switch but it
doesn't work. I just got a switch I ordered brand new ($50.00) and it doesn't
work! Anyone have ANY ideas what I am doing wrong?
Thanks,
Joe

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From: berninghausen2juno.com
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:20:04 -0700
Subject: Re: 4.9L gas mileage/ vibration

As far as the EGR goes, the truck had no
> plumbing
> hooked up when I bought it. The EGR is on there but no vacuum line
> to it.
> Everything is plugged up, just a vacuum line going to the
> distibutor.
> Joe

I'm about stumped. When all else fails, I check the timing (6 deg BTDC),
look for a bad plug wire or distro problem, and dial the mixture lean
until the revs drop sharply and then back it towards rich about an eighth
of a turn. Maybe you have a rich and/or retarded timing problem.

Bill in Portland
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From: BanksRVAaol.com
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:11:15 EDT
Subject: Re: 4.9L gas mileage/ vibration

In a message dated 5/23/00 1:34:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
berninghausen2juno.com writes:

<< I'm about stumped. When all else fails, I check the timing (6 deg BTDC),
look for a bad plug wire or distro problem, and dial the mixture lean
until the revs drop sharply and then back it towards rich about an eighth
of a turn. Maybe you have a rich and/or retarded timing problem.

Bill in Portland >>
Thanks for the help Bill,
Joe

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Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 06:45:28 -0700
From: Chuck Sanborn deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: 4.9L gas mileage/ vibration

At 10:20 PM 5/22/00 -0700, you wrote:

>I'm about stumped. When all else fails, I check the timing (6 deg BTDC),
Shouldn't that be 12~ advance? Or at least 10?
Chuck


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